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Date Posted: Sunday, January 15, 07:54:43am
Author: Chani *for Aurra mostly*
Author Host/IP: 81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr / 81.65.157.129
Subject: Before the last Sherlock

Here is a good read:

A Scandal in Fandom: Steven Moffat, Irene Adler and the Fannish Gaze

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[> That IS a good read. -- AurraSing, Sunday, January 15, 11:50:24am (NoHost/173.180.97.132)

As a fan, but obviously not a "FAN", I was left somewhat puzzled over some of the reactions I happened to read about 'Scandal' and the general Moffat bashing that occurred afterwards. This entry helped confirm my belief that some fans end up overthinking what they see and instead of coming away from an episode thinking, "Wow, that was a lot of fun" or "That sucked", they pummel and squeeze and parse every tiny bit to make it fit or in this case, fail to fit into their view of what they should have been seeing. I find it fascinating but at an arm's reach-I watch to be entertained, not to look for a chance to bash a writer/producer for how they've interpreted a character (and the funny part of all of this is that none of these characters owe the fans anything, it's not like any of this stuff is original anymore, "Sherlock" must fit into some kind of recognisable pattern that follows the original books to some extent otherwise it's not 'Sherlock", right? Same with the good Doctor, there will always be some kind of unbearable decisions involving Companions, otherwise it's just British SF with better-than-historical production values...)and/or jump down their throats because of some kind of perceived misogyny/gay bashing/etc/etc.

Let me be clear-I 'love' the Doctor, at least the Matt Smith incarnation of him. Even when he's being obtuse or tempermental or making those tough decisions that will end up hurting those around him, I still like the character and enjoy watching the show because it's about the adventure. I would totally be an Amy, given the chance. Because it's as clear as the nose on my face that the Doctor loves humanity and while he can't always do the right thing, he wants to and that's a huge part of the appeal.

On the other hand, I 'love' Sherlock the Series, not the character. I realise that Sherlock is pretty much a complete dickhead but that's the way he is, any changes for "the better" are inconsequential to my enjoyment of watching him solve a case. I could never be a John or a Molly, characters like Sherlock are insufferable to actually be around for long periods of time and while I understand how Irene could be attracted to his intelligence and singlemindedness, I am not sure how some fans can see the romance in the series that way and it's amusing to see how they will pounce on the teeniest crumb to prove a point about whether or not John is completely hetereo or Mrs. Watson see the boys as her sons....

*sighs*

Ali sent me an email earlier this week, complaining she had stumbled over a spoiler for tonight's ep and telling me she would be very upset if things really happened in this way. I pointed out to her how unlikely it was that ANYTHING was immutable in this series and reminded her it's a tv show...it's only as good as how many people want to tune in for the next go-round!!

Moffat entertains me. That's all I am asking for. Let others do the shouting and the wailing, if that's their thing. You can never please all the people all of the time, nor should you aim to. That way lies boredom....


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[> [> They didn't let me down. -- AS, Monday, January 16, 12:05:22am (d173-180-97-132.bchsia.telus.net/173.180.97.132)

The in-jokes were great (Shaun of the Dead, the Hobbity bit...lol), the story was appropriately convoluted and I will admit that I did not see the evil twin's final answer coming. I did, however, point out to my darling daughter that Moriarity's maths were wrong, Sherlock has more than three friends but only one of which would do anything for him without question.

I hear Moffat and Gattis were Tweeting after the ep aired and admitted that Series Three was commissioned at the same time Series Two was...I feel rather vindicated for telling Ali not to be too concerned, eh?

"You should see me in a crown!!"

LOL!!


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[> [> [> Oh ho, how true... -- AS, Monday, January 16, 12:30:51am (d173-180-97-132.bchsia.telus.net/173.180.97.132)

"Oh, and Moffat trolling the fans cracks me up. I can just see him giggling to himself about how delightful it is to play with them, a cat with his over-excitable mouse."

I think we know where Moriarity gets it from now, right???


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[> [> [> Re: They didn't let me down. -- Chani, Monday, January 16, 06:21:46pm (81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.157.129)

I didn't expect Moriarty to kill himself!

So many references to the SH books but also many BBC tv shows (Moffat's Jekyll, Doctor Who and Life On Mars even!), and I couldn't help thinking of The Prestige too...

Above all I loved the little hints of military discipline when John's emotions were about to overwhelm him in the grave scene. Such a nice touch.I also loved the Molly stuff, how her selflessness foreshadowed Sherlock's sacrifice (how he learned from her), and how her being unnoticed worked regarding Moriarty's cheme; he "knew" her better than the 3 he counted as Sherlock's friends but he didn't really notice her, she never counted for him, which helped Sherlock to do whatever he did with her off-screen.

Moriarty calling himself a "storyteller" and the character assassination of the famous Sherlock Holmes was a brilliant idea, and a great way to transpose ACD killing off his hero!

The more I watch the series the more I think that Mycroft is the truly intriguing character here.

PS: and all those who were mad about Irene's exit are going to say that it foreshadowed Sherlock's faking his own death now. LOL

Oh and John's entry on his blog:

http://www.johnwatsonblog.co.uk/blog/16ajune


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[> [> [> [> And Sherlock clued John in -- Chani, Monday, January 16, 06:29:06pm (81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.157.129)

saying "it's just a magic trick" but John didn't listen...

Also I wonder...we aren't supposed to know the man on the bicycle who conevniently knocked John down before he could reach the body, are we?


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[> [> [> [> Watching it again tonight, this time with Don. -- AS, Monday, January 16, 09:23:16pm (d173-180-97-132.bchsia.telus.net/173.180.97.132)

As bad as Jim's math was when it came to counting Sherlock's friends, I think it was more his psycho, insane self that made that final decision up on the roof. Hell, if you have gone through the massive shennanigans he did just to set this up, the embarassment of loosing would have killed him anyhow!

Notice that Mycroft doesn't get included in the "Friends" category? Interesting, that. Did Mycroft spill all the beans carelessly or did he secretly hope that his little brother would get some kind of comeuppance? After all, Mycroft lives and works his spiderweb in the shadows but Sherlock was more and more resembling Apollo, that shining god up in the sky...perhaps Mycroft was hoping to create an Icarus situation but things got out of hand. Didn't they?

There has been speculation that Molly used coworkers and perhaps some of Sherlock's homeless netork to set up the tragic demise that John witnessed. Of course his emotions could be called on to get the better of him to a certain extent but just to be sure, he was knocked down by the cyclist so that his dazed and confused self never got a truly good look at what seemed to have been Sherlock's dying body. SO looking forward to how Sherlock is going to explain the sleight of hand they pulled!!

Love the blog-the previous entry with John/Sherlock/Ms Watson was hilarious!!

More later, I am sure.


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[> [> [> [> [> Now I am wondering. -- AS, Tuesday, January 17, 12:22:52am (NoHost/173.180.97.132)

Did Mycroft set up Jim? I wonder if the Holmes brothers realised there was no easy way to take down the "spider" and used his one weakness (his love/hate relationship with Sherlock) to get him to make the mistake of forcing Sherlock to the precipice??

Watching it a second time, I have to wonder whether Mycroft was manipulating John towards that final ending every bit as much as his brother was. After all, we are talking about the King of Criminals; it was going to take extraordinary measures involving both friends and enemies to take him down. Since apparently they felt that just locking him up and throwing away the key would not keep Moriarity from his empire, forcing his hand when he thought he'd won could have meant Mycroft had to get his hands dirty...the more I think about it, the more sense it makes to me. Mycroft is about as far from a blabbermouth as you can get!

On the other hand, Sally and Anderson (the lemmings!) deserve to be run out of town on a rail.

As much as everyone feels sorry for John, it's fascinating to see how much being with Sherlock has completely turned his life around. It may take a while for him to forgive Sherlock once the truth comes out but he will, he will.


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[> [> [> [> [> [> Oh yes! -- Chani, Tuesday, January 17, 06:05:10am (81-65-157-129.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.157.129)

Actually, I'm pretty sure that Mycroft did manipulate John throughout the episode --hence his "I'm sorry", just like Sherlock manipulated his friend and apologised on the phone too( the Holmes brothers are much more alike than they think!)--, and is possibly the bigger schemer of all...the final scene in the gentlemen's club wasn't easy to read, but I read it as someone that considered the job finally done.

I can't believe that eh was fooled by Moriarty and made a mistake when talking about Sherlock's life. You're right, he's the kind of man who would take extraordinary measures to get the "king of criminals", including "helping" Moriarty to destroy the Sherlock's fame.

I am not saying that Sherlock and Mycroft necessarily worked together on this, but that Mycroft manipulated everybody and counted on his little brother's skills to eventually turn the tables on Moriarty and escape one way or another.


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