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Date Posted: Sunday, August 28, 10:05:02am
Author: Chani *spoilers for Doctor Who*
Author Host/IP: 81-65-192-252.rev.numericable.fr / 81.65.192.252
Subject: You gotta love Moffat's Doctor Who !!!

"Let's kill Hiltler" was terrific. I was a bit worried by the title so I was very pleased by the episode. It was an amazing one, and it made me happy to see a well-written and skilfully executed tv episode (here I'm tempted to eleborate on how much the last episode of Torchwood sucked but I won't).

The Moff is just too cunning. First thing I thought when I saw the car arriving in the field was "It must be River!" and yet it was that black girl who turned out to be Amy's and Rory's childhood friend, and I bought it forgetting my initial thought, registering that she was named Mels but not connecting the name Mels to Melody! I should have guessed the whole thing but speedy-paced the episode took me into a spiral of action and fine lines, with the flabacks and the1938 Berlin and then the tiny people in the robot providing hell for criminals so I went with the flow! Even when Mels got shot, I didn't see it coming...until she mentioned her parents being there so The Doctor could ask them to marry her.

Moffat is a magician, because it's exactly how magicians do tricks, they use distraction so you don't see how they do it. :- )

Many fans had theorized about River being Amy's daughter many weeks before the big reveal in June but this twist was really something because it added lots of depth to the character's journey while thickening the plot.

I love Moffat for never shying away from complexity and not choosing the easy route so many tv writers take.

The dialogues were superb, especially Rory's lines (but Rory was great throughout the episode!) and the plot was pure Moffat.

I like the idea of Amy naming her daughter after...her daughter! And Melody probably chose to change her name because The Doctor spoke of River (not sure it goes with the idea that the people of the forest's language and how it translated Melody Pond into River Song though).

The episode was the true birth of River Song and they all acted the hell out of it. To become River, Melody had to be fed with stories of The Doctor (and by her own mother), to meet him, to be christened by him, to kill him and eventually to save him. Btw, what a poetic symetry with the episode in which Ten met River Song for the first time (just before she dies)!!!!

Speaking of symetry River whispered The Doctor's name in Ten's ear when they met in "Silence in The Library "so I bet that it's exactly what Eleven whispered in her ear before dying, his name. La boucle est bouclée !

Also, Melody had to lose her regeneration skills in order to die in "The Forest of Dead". The doctor knew it, so he had know she would save him. But yes rule number one, The Doctor lies.

Also, now that Melody/River already killed the Doctor it seems unlikely that the murder she will be punished for will be the murder of The Doctor. Moffat does like to play with the fans and their speculations. And if little Melody, prior to her regenerating into Mels, killed the doctor as a child in "The Impossible Astronaut", there's no reason for her to be still conditioned into killing The Doctor and to do it again as Mels or River.

So I still think that she is not in that spacesuit in Lake Silencio and that it is someone else whose death she will cause which leads her to turn herself in.

As usual the episode was so filled with wonderful details that there's probably much more to ponder, and several parallels to mull over.

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[> A Companion's fate. -- AurraSing, Sunday, August 28, 10:35:47am (NoHost/66.183.70.232)

They did more than hint at the usual Companion's fate last night and I have to wonder if that's one more clue about why River is kinda/sorta in prison....plus looking at the evolution of Rory (bloody priceless!) and I am left thinking that River's good man is indeed very close to her. Of course this might all turn out to be utter crap because of timey/wimey manipulation (hard to realize still that her life is very far from being linear) but somebody is going to be left crying.

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I won't lie to you, reaction to this episode online is very mixed and some fans are getting tired of the hi-jinks. I, however, am easily amused and was in stitches in several paces as Melody let 'er rip!! Obviously when you combine a passionate human being with the skill set of a Time Lord, you get something pretty damn amazing and River most certainly is that.

However as much as we want to guess ahead and use what we think are clues to how things play out, Eleven did remind us that he lies and speculation might be rubbish.

I was totally not expecting a backstory themed episode with this one. But it was a really fun way to kick off the rest of the season and here is hoping that the rest if the season is as good...next week looks bloody scary and since it has that creepy actor who played the Devil at the end of "Ashes to Ashes", I'm already getting a tad freaked out. LOL.


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[> [> Part of a post on MeFi that left me nodding- -- AS, Sunday, August 28, 12:22:23pm (out-bc-173.wireless.telus.com/209.121.225.173)

"As far as I can tell, true Doctor Who fans are passionate about Doctor Who in general, but scathing about any specific part of it they actually encounter. The perfect Doctor Who story would be one from 1964 where not only have all the episodes been wiped, but so have all the off-air sound recordings, all the scripts have been burned, all the cast members have died in mysterious circumstances and no one can quite remember what the name was. That would be perfect.

It seems to be a lot of work, being a fan, as opposed to just enjoying the episodes as they come along. Or not, according to taste. "

Lol, this seems to be true.


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[> [> [> Another astute post- -- AS, Sunday, August 28, 02:24:59pm (NoHost/66.183.70.232)

"Series six is Moffatt inviting those who like to spoil the ending for everyone else to go screw themselves. We've already seen the ending. We've already seen the beginning. We're just waiting for him to tell us the middle bits. Personally, I love it even though I don't believe you can actually spoil a story."


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[> [> [> [> Re: Another astute post- -- Chani, Sunday, August 28, 04:17:39pm (81-65-192-252.rev.numericable.fr/81.65.192.252)

Indeed!


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