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Date Posted: 04:10:11 04/19/03 Sat
Author: The Cannabist
Subject: Paul Muad'Dib Atreides IS the Kwisatz Haderach
In reply to: Green Phoenix 's message, "Who is the KH?" on 11:34:36 04/10/03 Thu

two references from Dune.

First is pg 460

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Can you say he did this out of a sense of justice? Whose justice, then? Remember, we speak now of the Muad'Dib who ordered battle drums made from his enemies' skins, the Muad'Dib who denied the conventions of his ducal past with a wave of the hand, saying merely: "I am the Kwisatz Haderach. That is reason enough. "
-from "Arrakis Awakening" by the Princess Irulan
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The second is a direct refute of his earlier claim to Not be the Kwisatz Haderach.

This comes from page 470

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"How would you like to live billions upon billions of lives?" Paul asked. "There's a fabric of legends for you! Think of all those experiences, the wisdom they'd bring. But wisdom tempers love, doesn't it? And it puts a new shape on hate. How can you tell what's ruthless unless you've plumbed the depths of both cruelty and kindness? You should fear me, Mother. I am the Kwisatz Haderach."

Jessica tried to swallow in a dry throat. Presently, she said; "Once you denied to me that you were the Kwisatz Haderach."

Paul shook his head. "I can deny nothing any more." He looked up into her eyes. "The Emperor and his people come now. They will be announced any moment. Stand beside me. I wish a clear view of them. My future bride will be among them."
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Y'all agree?

Jay

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YEs Paul was the KH and more -- IDAHO, 05:02:50 04/19/03 Sat