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Date Posted: 23:25:04 08/08/03 Fri
Author: Noofies
Author Host/IP: 216.40.177.198
Subject: He doesn't understand that....
In reply to: Lin 's message, "house training help!" on 09:17:30 08/04/03 Mon

Outside is for pottying and inside isn't. You need to go back to square one, treat him as though he was an 8 week old puppy. Take him out about 15 minutes after each meal, after each drink of water, after he plays, after he chews, immediately after he wakes up from a nap, and every hour otherwise. Put him on a leash, take him to the same spot in the yard, then stand there and 'be a tree' until he eliminates. He doesn't get to run around the yard, or play, or anything else until after he's done his business. Then praise him like he's the most wonderful dog in the world, like he's just done the most amazing thing that no dog ever did.... throw a party. Smile really big, clap your hands, even jump up and down in excitement.

You need to get a crate and crate train him. If you can't actively supervise him - that means keeping both eyes on him, not one eye on the TV and one eye on the pup - put him in his crate. (If he eliminates in his crate, do not put a blanket or pad in there so there's nothing to soak it up. Some dogs will eliminate in their crate if there's something there to absorb the urine, but won't eliminate in the crate if they have to lay in it.) As soon as he comes out of his crate, take him outside. If he doesn't go, bring him back in, put him back in his crate, and try again in 15 minutes. When he does go, throw a party.

If he eliminates indoors, stop him in the process - scoop him up making a big "worried" face and take him out to his potty spot to finish. Clean up the spot indoors with an enzymatic cleaner, but do it when he's not watching. You don't want to acknowledge him eliminating indoors at all, and that includes pointing to the spot, showing it to him, letting him see you clean it up, etc.


>I'm watching him and he'll look at
>me and pee right on my kitchen floor. I stop him,
>show him no, take him outside where he gets his small
>treat (only after he finishes his business) right
>away.

Don't stop him and show him no - scoop him up and run him outside so the time period between starting his elimination indoors and finishing it up outdoors is as short as possible. You don't want to "stop the flow" so to speak.

>He
>also jumps up to my kitchen counters in search of any
>little tid bit. He gets more than enough food for the
>day. but yet acts like it's his last meal at feeding
>times, AM & PM. he knows he's doing wrong and gets
>down when I walk towards him.

No, he doesn't know he's doing wrong. All he knows is that you're angry with him for something. He sees you coming toward him with an angry look on your face - he knows you're angry but he doesn't know why, and he assumes a submissive posture to try to appease you. First of all, I'd take a stool sample to the vet to make sure he doesn't have worms. Second, what are you feeding? If you're feeding a grocery store food, or Walmart food, or even some of the foods you can get in pet stores, he may not be getting enough usable protein and fat to satisfy his hunger. He'll be more satisfied with a high quality food, and probably with less volume. (Less poop with a better food, too.) A good quality food isn't really more expensive on an "as fed" basis because you usually feed a lot less of it. Look for a food which lists "chicken meal" or "lamb meal" as the first ingredient, or "chicken, chicken meal" or "lamb, lamb meal" as the first two ingredients. A food which lists meat first followed by 4-5 types of grain is NOT a good food - the meat loses 75% of it's weight during processing and constitues a much smaller amount of the finished product than the grains which follow it on the ingredients list. "chicken meal" or "lamb meal", on the other hand, is already 90% dry matter and a food with either of those two ingredients listed first contains a lot more meat protein than a food which lists meat first followed by grains. Avoid "chicken by-product meal" or "lamb by-product meal".

The other thing is to break the counter-surfing habit. Clean your countertops and never leave any food up there, period. If he never gets anything to eat by surfing the countertops, the behavior will eventually stop. Behaviors which are not rewarded eventually go extinct. Keep your bread in a cupboard, defrost stuff in a pan in your oven (off), and don't leave anything tempting on the counters.

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