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Date Posted: 10:11:52 11/14/05 Mon
Author: Sunshine
Subject: Re: Yes, but we have telephones now
In reply to: manwitch 's message, "Yes, but we have telephones now" on 09:30:14 11/14/05 Mon

You just can't give the guy a break, can you? It is not enough that we all agree that what he did turned out badly, you can’t even accept that there are extenuating circumstances. I did not get the impression that at this point in time, Wesley would have considered any of the Sunnydale gang as an option. Certainly not Buffy and by extension, not Willow (the best friend of someone who hates you is not a particularly good source of advice). I never really saw Wesley and Giles as soul mates. Wesley was alienated, that. I believe, was the whole point. His alienation started even before his throat was cut and he was rejected by AI. This is the whole history of Wesley: he was rejected by his father, he was rejected by the WC and considered to be the biggest failure in WC history (even later, when the entire WC was blown up, he was still the biggest black mark), he was rejected by Fred. He was preconditioned to expect rejection and suffer alienation, making the hard decisions in isolation. Over the course of the show he couldn’t save Connor, he couldn’t save Lilah, he couldn’t save Fred, and in the end he couldn’t even save himself. This was his destiny. I don’t expect anyone to admire him for these failings, just show some understanding. In a ‘verse that stresses ambiguity and the inherent flaws in every character and the often times grayness of moral decisions, I just think a little understanding is in order.

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