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Date Posted: 05:21:07 10/16/05 Sun
Author: Pip
Subject: Somebody has to change their mind
In reply to: Dlgood 's message, "Re: It parallels "The Train Job" actually" on 10:07:57 10/09/05 Sun

Some would see this as an unfortunate mistake, instead. Not as damning of the Alliance, but indicative that the Alliance is trying to do the right thing, but needs to get better at it. Indeed, "Serenity" would have been a much better story and shown much better characterization of the operative if this had been his own conclusion.

Yes, but wasn't 'unfortunate mistake' already the conclusion of the Alliance Powers That Be (oops, sorry, Parliament That Be)? Given that River picked up the information about Miranda from high-ranking Alliance visitors?

What you've got in the film is a situation where on one side - there's the Anti-Alliance types, in rebellion or fleeing from the Alliance, who see clearly that what happened on Miranda is wrong; and on the other side - the Alliance types, who trust in the government's desire to do the right thing, even if 'the right thing' sometimes requires forceful and unpleasant means. And includes unfortunate mistakes.

And if you have the Operative concluding that the Alliance just needs to make fewer mistakes, then nobody in the entire film changes their mind/political view. And you have a very simplistic 'good vs evil' story, with another civil war inevitable, cause the two sides both judge the facts by their opinions, and don't ever re-assess their opinions according to the facts.

Some people do indeed see what you call truth and still not act how you wish them to - that's the high-ranking people who see River. The Operative then represents the people who see truth and alter their behaviour. Make him one of the unchanging ones and you've just got a wildly unrealistic film, where only the good guys can change their mind.

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Re: Somebody has to change their mind -- dlgood, 15:49:27 10/16/05 Sun
- As I said in my above post, even fanatics have limits -- Finn Mac Cool, 20:09:12 10/16/05 Sun

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