Yes, the UN, as it has been recently, has been scum, or worse. The nations who supported Iraq's sadistic leader and demonized the United States, is more useless as road kill, and they are gullible. How do you think they went along with Saddam, France, Germany, et al? How do you think that they actually believed that UN Inspectors would be of any use in Iraq? They were so gullible that they actually believed that Iraq would comply with UN Inspectors after he did not for 12 years and he did not comply this time either. -- The Philadelphia Talk Radio Politics and Opinion Forum

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Date Posted: 06:13:28 05/06/03 Tue
Author: William
Author Host/IP: cache-rl02.proxy.aol.com / 152.163.189.98
Subject: Yes, the UN, as it has been recently, has been scum, or worse. The nations who supported Iraq's sadistic leader and demonized the United States, is more useless as road kill, and they are gullible. How do you think they went along with Saddam, France, Germany, et al? How do you think that they actually believed that UN Inspectors would be of any use in Iraq? They were so gullible that they actually believed that Iraq would comply with UN Inspectors after he did not for 12 years and he did not comply this time either.
In reply to: Chris Henry 's message, "It really is pathetic, this demonising of the UN because the Security Council wouldn't support a resolution to go to war with Iraq. Why? Because they didn't believe the evidence on WMD's. That's hardly surprising, since weapons that according to Blair were "45 minutes from being launched", still haven't been found after all this time (and there are no weapons inspectors to blame now). The UN may be "scum", but at least they're not gullible." on 04:40:38 05/06/03 Tue

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[> [> [> [> Iraq said they didn't have any weapons, and the inspectors didn't find any. Does that make them useless? Only if the weapons are there, hidden. Now the coalition forces are there, but they haven't found any either. So are they equally useless? Maybe they will find some, but time is running out. Don't expect the "scum" nations to keep quiet when the so-called Iraqi WMD accusation turn out to be the Lie of the Century. -- Chris Henry, 07:59:57 05/06/03 Tue (cache8-2.ruh.isu.net.sa/212.138.47.27)

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[> [> [> [> [> Chris, how can you possibly claim "... but time is running out ... " (for finding WMDs)? It has been 12 years. Then several months more after resolution 1441. With the war people were screaming that it is taking too long and we are getting bogged down, things are not going well, after only ONE WEEK!!!! The US and coalition forces took Iraq in three weeks and people were impatient and crying "Quagmire" after only a week! What impatience!

Patience, Chris! I know you want the US to fail but be patient! -- William, 16:21:41 05/06/03 Tue (cache-dl03.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.39)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> I'm prepared to wait until the end of the year. I don't wat the US to fail, it will be a matter of great personal shame if my country is shown to have misled the world. However the world will not wait forever, time is definitely running out. -- Chris Henry, 02:55:27 05/07/03 Wed (cache10-2.ruh.isu.net.sa/212.138.47.29)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> I disagree. The world WILL wait forever. What will they do -- pass a resolution?! They are already on record as not enforcing anything. By "the world" you refer to the UN, I assume. Look how long they waited for Saddam to comply with so many resolutions that they all voted for. They will whine and complain to be sure, but only to voice anti-US sentiments. Kick them ALL out of NY. Put the real estate to better use. -- SurveyGuy (anti-UN for decades. Waiting for them to show some integrity.), 18:44:28 05/08/03 Thu (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)

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[> [> [> [> [> So this compartmentalized vehicle just found in northern Iraq was for ice cream? Inspectors had 6 months. The Unfits wanted to give them 6 MORE months. You are bellyaching because the U.S. military (whose job is NOT to search for WMD's) has not found them in 6 weeks? Your statements are ludicrous. Nothing personal. -- JL, 20:25:13 05/06/03 Tue (pcp01376707pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net/68.80.69.241)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> If it's not the job of the Coalition military to look for WMD's, given that they are the sole power in that country, then I am curious whom you expect to do it. Presumably not the UN. Your statements are baffling. Nothing personal. -- Chris Henry, 03:05:24 05/07/03 Wed (cache9-2.ruh.isu.net.sa/212.138.47.20)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> We have sent/are sending our own teams in to do the dirty work. Some of them are military, but others are experts in their particular fields. And Guess What??? Some of them are even Iraqis and Iraqi ex-pats. It is the 'job' of our miltary to protect them and assist them if possible, not to BE them. -- JL, 19:24:02 05/08/03 Thu (pcp01376707pcs.selrsv01.pa.comcast.net/68.80.69.241)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> So if this vehicle had been used to manufacture weapons, wouldn't you expect these weapons to have been issued to some of the Iraqi forces, and even used on occasion, and therefore discovered as their positions were overrun? What more urgent need would there be than to use them against a Western invasion? And so if none were found, isn't there just the smallest possibility that they don't actually exist? -- Chris Henry, 05:24:33 05/08/03 Thu (cache1-2.ruh.isu.net.sa/212.138.47.11)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> ...and please don't tell me it was because of the threat of retaliation. That would only explain why they were not used, but not why they were not issued to units and stockpiled. -- Chris Henry, 05:26:53 05/08/03 Thu (cache8-2.ruh.isu.net.sa/212.138.47.27)

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> My guess would be that they were so busy hiding them, focussing on the UN inspectors, there was no time to deploy and train their troops in the use. Given where we found other items, in schools, drums weighted down in the Euphates and underground, I expect some nasty stuff to be uncovered. The accessories that have been found seem to indicate the existence. -- SurveyGuy (I predict it will take about 6 months to uncover some hidden WNDs), 09:31:07 05/09/03 Fri (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)

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