- reggie bryants degree -- John, 20:12:00 06/16/03 Mon (cache-dl03.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.39)
Reggie Bryant has a bachelor's and master's degree from Temple U. No doctorate. For additional details see the following site. http://www.delleast.org/instructors.html
Reggie is always very antagonistic when people ask him about his credentials and he never corrects them when they call him doctor. I think he's a real phoney. He loves to say "it's not what you know that hurts you, but what you know that just ain't so". What a hypocrite.
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- This is a phenomenon which I think warrants addressing and concern. -- William, 10:12:00 11/25/02 Mon (cache-rl02.proxy.aol.com/152.163.189.98)
Although some of the harassed in this article are Christians, I do not think that this phenomomenon is directed soley toward Christians, nor do I think that their being Christians justifies their unjust and reprehensible treatment.
Pastor and Christian Camp Face Human Rights Charges over Moral Principles
Harassment by Canadian Human Rights Tribunals Increasing Over Homosexual Issue
RED DEER, AB, November 22, 2002 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Cases of harassment and economic penalties imposed upon Canadian Christians who speak out against the social, medical and spiritual dangers of homosexuality are on the rise. LifeSite has learned of two more cases of such harassment by human rights tribunals.
MP Vic Toews, the Justice critic for the Canadian Alliance has called on the Manitoba Government to "immediately move to clarify the law to ensure that religious organizations are not singled out because of their moral position on homosexuality." The Provencher MP points out that Camp Arnes, a camp on Lake Winnipeg run by the Mennonite Brethren Church of Manitoba, is facing a challenge under the Manitoba Human Rights Act for denying access to the camp to the Winnipeg Gay and Lesbian Choir. The Act says that groups or individuals cannot be discriminated against on the basis of sexual orientation.
In a related case in Alberta, Rev. Stephen Boissoin is facing a human rights complaint brought by homosexual activist and University of Calgary professor Dr. Darren Lund. Rev. Boissoin, an outstanding citizen who for nine years ran an outreach to troubled youth that had 100-150 teens who would frequent it weekly, raised the ire of homosexual activists with a letter to the editor of a local paper which served as a wakeup call to parents regarding homosexual activism in schools. Lund accused Rev. Boissoin of hatemongering in comments to the press and when a local teen was beaten by hooligans supposedly because of his homosexual inclinations, Rev. Boissoin's letter was blamed.
Boissoin's damaged reputation caused the loss of funding to his youth outreach which was forced to close due to lack of funds. Now Boissoin is faced with retaining a lawyer to defend himself against the human rights complaint.
At least 6 mayors across the country have been reprimanded and some fined - one as much as $10,000 - for refusing to proclaim 'gay pride day'. Ontario printer Scott Brockie was fined for refusing to print homosexual activist material, and a man (Hugh Owens) has been fined for a newspaper ad quoting the Bible on homosexuality. These and many other incidents have become part of a growing harassment of Christians in Canada over this issue. A dangerous denial of traditional democratic rights of religious belief and free speech has become pervasive.
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- In honor of SurveyGuy -- William, 12:15:42 11/10/02 Sun (cache-dq01.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.133)
In honor of SurveyGuy, who has been a driving force in maintaining this message board which I and others enjoy partaking in, and whose posts are normally terse, insightful, and thought provoking, I present this tid bit from "the Bard" himself.
Since brevity is the soul of wit... I will be brief...
From Shakespeare's Hamlet.
Spoken by Polonius Act II Scene ii, line 96
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- What?! No cash award with this honor? (NT) -- SG, 09:14:39 11/11/02 Mon
- God, I want to barf! (NT) -- Rolf, 19:00:08 11/11/02 Mon
- Hmmm, I don't think that's from one of the Bard's plays. Was that from one of the sonnets? It doesn't sound Elizabethan. (NT) -- SG, 20:34:54 11/11/02 Mon
- Definitely missing that iambic pentameter....Perhaps the full phrasing goes "God, I want to barf into my shoe!/To wit I surely have naught else to do!" (NT) -- Spock (yeah, that fits), 11:25:53 11/12/02 Tue
- I think he meant he wants to eat the Indian dessert, Barfi! (NT) -- William, 13:29:02 11/12/02 Tue
- I am unfamiliar with that dish. Is it one of those sweet rice and coconut dishes or what? I have never tried Indian cooking, but did take a vegetarian course from an Indian woman with a Ph.D. in biology so I learned a little about her cuisine. Lots of cutting up for that style of cooking. (NT) -- SG, 17:40:24 11/12/02 Tue
- SurveyGuy, here inside this message subject link is a recipe for "Barfi" an Indian fudge candy treat. I do enjoy Indian food very much. An Indian desert I enjoy very much is "Gulab Juman" which is milk ball in rose water, or a form of sweet syrup. It is sweet and often served warm. I enjoy Mango Ice Cream, Mango Lassi drink (not an alcoholic beverage. I don't drink any alcohol whatsoever), and I enjoy mango chutney with some dishes, such as some finger foods like Vegetable Samosa, patada wada, and others. I hope you, and anyone else here who choses to try it, enjoy it. -- William, 13:37:55 11/20/02 Wed
- Why does it give such joy to pick on the French? -- SurveyGuy, 16:22:17 02/19/03 Wed (maxtnt03-287.phlpa.fast.net/209.92.231.33)
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- I dunno -- call it "joie de vie," I guess? (NT) -- Spock, 17:07:52 02/19/03 Wed
- Do you remember what several of us said here about two years ago? We said that the US should attack France. Now it is more true than ever before. They are hypocrites. They destroyed a ship which went to protest the French testing nuclear devices in Tahiti. They used military force in the Ivory Coast without UN approval, did the same to Vietnam, Africa, Algeria, and elsewhere. They are hypocrites, anti-Semites, socialists, communists, and racists. The belief that Europe, and France itself is somehow superior to the US, even in the area of racism, is a farce. (NT) -- William, 22:07:03 02/19/03 Wed
- Talking about hypocrisy and sinking ships, do you remember when USS Liberty was attacked in 1967 with the loss of 34 American lives, watched by one of our surveillance aircraft flying overhead? Do you want us to declare war on Israel? How about the country that illegally captured USS Pueblo? The same one that is now sticking a finger up at us, Japan, South Korea? Are we going to attack them? Not on your life, far too dangerous, let's indulge them like spoilt children, we only want to attack weak countries where we have a chance of winning. (NT) -- Chris Henry, 04:56:55 03/04/03 Tue
- Your account of the USS Liberty attack is bias and flawed at best. The USS Liberty attack was a mistake. The Israelis were being fired upon by a ship in the region and thought it was the Liberty. There was an Egyptian ship in the area and it was possible Israel thought this was that ship. The US Navy itself also investigated and determined that it was a mistake. Israel did compensate the US for this error and loss of life. During the Gulf War there were dozens of soldiers injured or killed by "friendly fire." (NT) -- William, 02:37:58 03/08/03 Sat
- In Iraq our own jets fired on and brought down two of our own helicopters. It happens during a war. USS Liberty was fired upon on day four of the six day war of 1967. I question your claim that there was US surveillance aircraft in the area watching the whole event. At that time the US did not with to provoke the Soviet Union and tried to stay out of the region.
Regarding North Korea: Have you noticed that China, Japan, and South Korea have been doing virtually nothing to control North Korea? Has the whole world gone to sleep? (NT)
-- William, 02:49:14 03/08/03 Sat
- I have more about North Korea in this sub page. Just click on this text. Before I move there, however, regarding Israel again, think about it, Chris. The US is/was Israel's closest friend and supporter then in 1967. Do you really think that Israel would actually attack the US and make an enemy out of their own, lone ally when the Soviet Union, Europe, and Arabia were chomping at the bit to destroy Israel and Jews? I don't think so. -- William, 03:14:53 03/08/03 Sat
- In the US blacks for one group, do much better than anywhere in the world, including Africa, and including France. I think we should attack France and Germany then attack Iraq. As Bush said about one year ago, if you are not with us in the war on terrorism, then you are against us. Germany had more than 80 companies which supplied Saddam Hussein with his weapons and France has been doing business with Iraq for a very long time and has a lot of money tied up in Iraq. Thank God that Israel had enough sense to destroy the French built Iraqi Nuclear power center! (NT) -- William, 22:08:23 02/19/03 Wed
- In the immortal words of Peter Sellers, "There is a 'bum' in your 'rum.'" (NT) -- Spock, 15:17:19 02/20/03 Thu
- Hi, Spock! It is good to see you posting again. I enjoy this forum and it is a lot more fun when people actually interact here. This past two weeks has been fun because Vince, H Bergeron, JL, SurveyGuy, you, Pat, Surf, and I don't remember who else, actually stopped by, increasing comments here at this forum. ... By the way, Spock, I need some snow removal done at our home here. Do you know anyone who will do it for us? (NT) -- William, 18:02:14 02/20/03 Thu
- Maybe because we have no retort to others who would do so? CESM!!! (NT) -- JL (LMAO!!!), 23:01:30 02/20/03 Thu
- Probably because it's easier to attack a person than to attack his arguments, as illustrated by this hilarious cartoon and the profoundly witty "cheese eating surrender monkeys" insult. It's really upsetting when people want to stop us doing something stupid, just ask the next 5-year-old you see having a tantrum. Problem is, most people outside this continent agree with the French. Perhaps we should declare war on them all. (NT) -- Chris Henry, 04:37:19 03/04/03 Tue
- "most people outside this continent agree with the French" Chris, you have offered no proof to support your allegations claiming that most people outside of this continent agree with the French. The anti-America brain dead crowd repeat this claim ad nauseum with not proof to support it. The voices of those who agree with the USA are not carried over the national and international news media as well as the anti-US sentiment is mainly because these people are not given the same voice. (NT) -- William, 20:37:32 03/09/03 Sun
- There are millions of people in Iran, who have been protesting in the millions on virtually a daily basis for regime change and for a government and business to interact with the US and for support of the US, Iraq, in which dissent is silenced, and elsewhere throughout the world who do agree with the US and appreciate the US presence on this planet for they know what would become of them were the US to disappear. (NT) -- William, 20:42:16 03/09/03 Sun
- This is espeically true of Europe whose very existence is possible only because the US actually protected them. Nevertheless the majority of the people are not always right or correct and this is what separates a leader from someone who is not a leader. Sometimes a leader must do what they know to be right and just no matter the numbers who oppose him. Regarding your idea about a five year old and their temper tantrum, this is the role of France, Iraq, and a few others. (NT) -- William, 20:52:28 03/09/03 Sun
- The US itself has displayed great restraint since 9/11 and has not rushed to war against Iraq but has taken pains to gain the support of the UN security council and gave Saddam numerous chances to redeem himself which he has not done.
It is remarkable to observe how Saddam Hussein and others of his ilk are given a free pass while the US President, George W. Bush and GB Prime Minister Blair and others are given the third degree. Saddam is the wacko here, not Bush and Blair. The UN and the brain dead anti-America and blame America crowd are his enablers and enablers of others like him. (NT)
-- William, 21:11:43 03/09/03 Sun
- Regarding this statement of your Chris: " most people outside this continent agree with the French. Perhaps we should declare war on them all." That statement speaks volumes to the emptiness of your position. It cheapens your claim to any semblence of reality or grasp of the facts and leaves you with not a leg to stand on. Of course we are not going to make war on them all and to suggest that we would is absurd. Don't be a jerk! (NT) -- William, 21:20:08 03/09/03 Sun
- Dissent is un-patriotic -- Matthew, 22:31:22 04/09/03 Wed (CPE0050e4399251-CM014260032914.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com/24.114.190.2)
[> [> [> [> [> [> It is also obvious, based on your comment about Collin Powell's testimony, that you choose to devalue the information he presented. That definitely reveals your bias against Powell, the Bush administration, and the United States and your favoritism for Blix, the UN Inspectors, the UN Security Council members opposing action against Saddam, and your favoritism of Saddam himself. Powell offered legitimate evidence against Saddam and Iraq and you and others chose to discount it as was done during the build up of Nazism and the German war machine in the 1930s. History is repeating itself again. -- William, 15:18:17 03/09/03 Sun (cache-dq01.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.133)
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Uh huh.....number one: it is interesting to see that you think that any question of our nation's leadership, especially that of our 'commander-in-cheif' is un-patriotic and anti-American. Did Chris question the moral fabric of our entire country? No. Did he say he hates everything American? Apple pie? Baseball? No. Did he say he was happy that 9-11 happened. No. And yet you don't hesistate to call him an ally of evil by saying he supports Osama. All he did was question about wheter our not this country, 'of the people, by the people, for the people', was really doing what is in our best interests. Liberating Afganistan was in our interests, as well as those os others. But how about now? I'm not so sure anymore. Our country was founded by descent. The Boston tea party was seen as a 'terrorist act' by the British crown, and there weren't even any lives lost. Dissent is not only not un-patriotic, its what formed our nation. Would you prefer to be living under a British royal crown?
Number two: Where were we in 1939 anyway? We were profiting off of the deaths of others by selling weapons to the desperate Europeans caught under Hitler's jackboot. We knew there was trouble, but we didn't want to get involved. We were looking out for our own interests. Not until Dec. 7 1941 did we do anything...all it took was an attack against us at Pearl Harbor
I think that Bush was way to reckless when trying to gain support for the action in Iraq from the U.N. They didn't immedietly click their heels together and say 'yes sir Mr. President', and instead opted to take a small amount of time to try and do things right. We could have hade support from the entire world. Instead he dismissed the authority of the U.N., which is the best chance this world has at getting along with itself, and he may have well said "screw you guys, your totally wrong, we are totally right, and we are going to do what ever the hell we feel like, 'cause we are better than you"
And even if America is the best country in the world, and I always believed that it was, you just don't go saying those things...ESPECIALLY when you are the Superpower that everyone looks to for support and guidance. Now the administration has succeeded in pissing of more than half of the world, and they don't seem to care, because 'we are more important than you'. Would you appreciate that kind of talk directed at you?
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- " A picture is worth a thousand words" -- William, 04:13:14 10/08/02 Tue (cache-mtc-ah04.proxy.aol.com/64.12.96.169)
Here is a glimpse of what members of the "Religion of Peace", living here in the United States, really think about you and me.This is not intended as a joke or a prank
Warning: Obscene content!
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- According to this pic, it is one single "member," not "members." And in your zeal to paint Muslims with broad and unjust brushstrokes, it must be pointed out that the attitude expressed inthe pic is NOT reflective of all Muslim people. I know many Muslim people living in this country and they are as peaceful as anyone. It's like saying that all black people or American Indians are lazy, shiftless, and prone to criminal behavior. We shouldn't mischaracterize whole races and creeds based on some examples ugly behavior. I would expect better judgment from supposedly intelligent people. (NT) -- Richard, 18:27:44 10/08/02 Tue
- Not one -- many, but clearly not all. If you do not think that at least 10% of the "peaceful" Muslims in the U.S. do not harbor the attitude depicted, then you are just deluding yourself. No one used the word "all" except you. You can't get away with trying to change other's words around here. Are you arguing that the young man in the picture is the only Muslim who has that attitude? You did say "one." If he is not the only one, then "members" is quite accurate, hmmmm? (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 21:51:58 10/08/02 Tue
- Please reread his post carefully... it clearly said "members," which is plural, meaning more than one. I'm not arguing for anything but clarity. However, based on that poster's archival record, he has displayed quite a bit of negativity toward Muslims in general, based only on what a few thousand out of the hundreds of millions of the world Muslim population have done. I'd like to read that distinction acknowledged for a change. (NT) -- Richard, 23:24:57 10/08/02 Tue
- "Here is a glimpse of what members of the "Religion of Peace", living here in the United States, really think about you and me." That is what it says. If you wish to think that all members of the Religion of Peace are hateful, spiteful, and desire to murder United States citizens and Jews, then go ahead. If it makes you feel better, read it this way: "Here is a glimpse of what many members of the "Religion of Peace" here in the United States really think about you and me". Many are here to slaughter U. S. citizens. They are bloodthirsty, hateful, and homicidal. Feel better now? (NT) -- William, 05:12:39 10/09/02 Wed
- Are sweeping generalizations acceptable among intelligent people? -- Richard, 07:56:36 10/09/02 Wed
- No one said all. Use of a plural does not imply all. You said "one." That is clearly wrong. Semantic games. Now you finally admit that there ARE 10-20,000 "vocally comitted." Seems that a plural makes sense. Please note that not a single Muslim vendor has been attacked here or anywhere, yet Jews on campuses have been attacked by Muslim students. Far too many examples to ignore. No sweeping generalization here except those you infer, yet were not implied. 20,000 or 100,000 fanatics trying to kill innocents supports the use of a plural "s." (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 10:01:58 10/09/02 Wed
- When they are proven to be true time and time again...yes. Please direct us to the link of the picture where these peaceful, terrorist-hating muslims are giving the finger to somebody besides US. Please direct us to links showing outrage for not only attacks against us and Israel, but against those within our borders who espouse such vile acts. Show me the outrage. I have been waiting for over a year to see and/or see or hear it. (NT) -- JL, 20:39:08 10/09/02 Wed
- The reason the peaceful Muslims are afraid to speak out is thatthey are afraid. Remember Salmon Rushdi on whom the peace loving Ayatollah's put out a death warrant for writing a book? (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 23:00:49 10/09/02 Wed
- What you said is an absolute and irrefutable fact! As recently as this month Yassar Arafat had some more Palestinians murdered. These people were chosen on such criteria as: They were a threat to his position; they disagreed with him; they wanted peace with Israel. The Muslim fanatics have gone after their own because they were not Militant enough or because they did not hate Jews or US citizens or because they did speak out against their Jihad. (NT) -- William, 02:40:10 10/10/02 Thu
- It appears that our countrymen and women, including the two congresspersons who spoke against our president from inside Iraq but sided with Saddam Hussein, cliaming that they don't trust President Bush but that we should give Saddam Hussein the benefit of the doubt, overlook these things. (NT) -- William, 02:41:56 10/10/02 Thu
- You surely ARE 100% on this one. But wouldn't that be like me having to be fearful of, say, you? And maybe William, Spock, or 'H' turning my card for speaking my mind? Yes, we certainly need to be more understanding and accepting of a culture such as that. islum (sic) - the religion of peace and love. (NT) -- JL, 19:16:16 10/17/02 Thu
- Blahblahblah...All I can say to our friend in the picture is "Right back atcha!" (And ditto for any other similarly-sentimented MEMBERS of Al Qaeda & the Islamic faith.) (NT) -- Spock (vocally committed to America, its Constitution, and its PATRIOTS), 12:19:44 10/09/02 Wed
- Actually, I agree with him. I feel exactly the same way about the media. Now, he ought to see a pic of what I think of him and his ilk. Now THAT might be deemed 'obscene'. (NT) -- JL, 20:02:22 10/09/02 Wed
- New Forums -- Surf, 06:21:12 08/11/03 Mon (pool-151-197-124-167.phil.east.verizon.net/151.197.124.167)
You can visit the new location of this forum
at www.PhillyTalk.com/forums
This forum will be locked but remain as an archive
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- Worthwhile viewing, if you haven't seen the Flash presentation to which this article refers. About 3 MB, so better with a fast connect. Links on page give lots of choices of source. -- SurveyGuy, 19:49:33 08/10/03 Sun (pcp03884941pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.32.204.89)
ON THE HOME FRONT
Web presentation honors
U.S. troops
Americans applaud patriotic tribute in midst of anti-war sentiment
ON THE HOME FRONT
Posted: August 9, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern
By Carrie Olson © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
When Todd Clegg created a
patriotic Web presentation for a coworker serving in Afghanistan, he had no idea his work would serve as a rallying point for many Americans wishing to show their support for the troops amid anti-war protests.
The moving presentation, which features photographs of service men and women alternating with text written by Clegg, serves as a tribute to heroes of the past and present who have sacrificed in service to their country.
The photographs depict scenes from D-Day, the raising of the flag at Iwo Jima, the September 11 attacks and the fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq.
Clegg's presentation struck a chord with a broad base of the American public and military forces, and has created a rallying point for perhaps over a million supporters of U.S. troops.
"The first week it was out I received 400 to 500 e-mails a day. After that it was about 50-100 a day. Now I still get 20-40 e-mails a day," Clegg told WorldNetDaily.
His presentation garnered a widespread audience just as the war in Iraq spurred anti-war protests and heated debate about the legitimacy of U.S. involvement in the Gulf.
Clegg released the tribute in March during the third week of the war in Iraq. He felt the need to encourage America's soldiers because he saw a prevailing sentiment against the war.
"I had been collecting photos off the Web for some time; it just seemed like the right time to do it, especially when the sentiment was against the war and a little bit against the troops," Clegg explained.
After two weeks of assembling the presentation and editing a soundtrack, Clegg sent the link to a coworker serving in Afghanistan.
Originally, Clegg did not intend the presentation for widespread circulation, so it came as a surprise when the demand for the tribute bogged down the server of his employer, Press-A-Print International.
The original recipients of the presentation sent the link to their friends and family who, in turn, sent the link to others. The result was a snowball effect that put an overwhelming demand on the company's server.
"When the snowball first happened, they thought it was some sort of cyber attack," Clegg recalled with a chuckle.
The demand became so great Clegg had to pull the link from the Net temporarily. On the webpage, he explained why the tribute was unavailable and invited others to assist him in hosting the presentation.
When numerous offers to host the tribute came in from all over the Web, Clegg sent the files out and posted the links to these mirror sites at the original address. A partial list remains on the site, although more mirror sites have been added since the page was updated a month ago.
Many who view the presentation e-mail Clegg with requests for a copy on compact disc to be shown at military conventions and memorials. He tries to keep up with the requests for copies and continues to respond to the thousands of e-mails that have poured into his inbox.
Said Clegg: "Thousands of people have e-mailed me, and those are the ones who took the time to write. I never put a counter on the site, but I would say the number of viewers is in the millions by now."
Clegg works as the website administrator and information technology manager at Press-A-Print International, a promotional product firm specializing in printed advertising products.
Go to the page listing the links that can be used to view the presentation.
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- Cartoonist Auth-- echos of Nazi-ism? -- SurveyGuy, 21:23:57 08/04/03 Mon (pcp03884941pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.32.204.89)
This was posted on the Rant 'n Rave board. I thought visitors here would find this interesting.
Date Posted: 20:43:42 08/04/03 Mon
Author: Alex C
Subject: Local Talk & Local Cartoonist coverage
I've been out of town, and haven't listened to local talk lately. Has this http://littlegreenfootballs.com/weblog/?entry=7729_Echoes_of_Nazism
been discussed by any local talk host?
It's a cartoon drawn by the Inquirer's Tom Auth. It was pretty harsh when seen on it's own. But when compared to 1930's Nazi propaganda, it looks, ahem, "coincidental".
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- I interpret the cartoon attributed to Tony Auth as Israelis and Jews fencing Arabs in, in this case, Palestinian Arabs. Israel and Jews are often charged by Arabs and anti-Semitic westerners as "aggressors" while the suffering of Israelis and Jews is not even granted a footnote in international news. With that interpretation I find this cartoon offensive. The Israelis are the ones who are "fenced in". They live in less than 1% of the Middle East while surrounded by those who hate her. (NT) -- William, 02:11:12 08/05/03 Tue
- I haven't followed Auth's work closely, but it's usually provocatively controversial, to say the least, and not sympathetic to conservative viewpoints. What troubles me is how short people's memories are. The 20th century saw everything in society start accelerating and expanding exponentially. The price is that old must be jettisoned to make room for new -- including knowledge...and common sense. How long before Klintoon is an upstanding, moral citizen, leading this country through a Golden Age? I shudder to think. (NT) -- Spock, 15:08:24 08/06/03 Wed
- Spock, I have noticed a "head in the sand" action taken by leftists, liberals, extreme right wingers, and Democrats regarding this anti-Jew, and anti-Israel sentiment. I have noticed the same regarding the US taking military action to defend herself or ensure her own security after 9-11. This it outrageous and I wonder if this is polarizing people here as it appears to me to be doing, those who care, those who don't, those who demonize the US in such a way as to give aid and comfort to the enemy/ies, etc. (NT) -- William, 16:51:37 08/06/03 Wed
- Now people who condemned US military action for her own safety in Afghanistan and Iraq are screaming that we must send troops to Liberia or we are not really compassionate, etc., while it is obvious that when we send troops to fight for our own security we are demonized. What a double standard and what hypocracy!
Here is a rather interesting quote: "Some in my party are sending out a message that they don't know a just war when they see it, and, more broadly, are not prepared to use our military strength to protect our security and the cause of freedom." Sen. Joe Lieberman, (7/28/03) (NT)
-- William, 16:54:21 08/06/03 Wed
- How interesting!! Something to throw back in the faces of liberals who try to say Bush is horrible because he opposes this. First ask them if they woould feel the same about anyone who would do so. Then drop this bombshell on them. -- SurveyGuy, 20:57:27 08/02/03 Sat (pcp03884941pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.32.204.89)
http://newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/8/2/204450
Saturday, August 2, 2003 9:19 PM EST
Clinton Opposed Same Sex Marriages
Before condemning George Bush for taking a stand against same-sex marriages, liberals should keep in mind that not long ago one of their heroes took a similar stand.
George Bush is not the only president to come out against same sex marriages - Bill Clinton, the liberal's darling, not only said he opposed the idea, he signed into law a ban on state recognition of such unions.
As Nick Gillespie recalls in Reason Online's Hit and Run feature, Clinton signed The Defense of Marriage Act in September 1996. The measure was designed to prevent states from recognizing the validity of gay marriages.
In signing the act, the suddenly moral Clinton said the had "long opposed governmental recognition of same-gender marriages."
Clinton's full statement issued on Friday, September 20, 1996 relating to the law follows:
Throughout my life I have strenuously opposed discrimination of any kind, including discrimination against gay and lesbian Americans. I am signing into law H.R. 3396, a bill relating to same-gender marriage, but it is important to note what this legislation does and does not do.
I have long opposed governmental recognition of same-gender marriages and this legislation is consistent with that position. The Act confirms the right of each state to determine its own policy with respect to same gender marriage and clarifies for purposes of federal law the operative meaning of the terms "marriage" and "spouse".
This legislation does not reach beyond those two provisions. It has no effect on any current federal, state or local anti-discrimination law and does not constrain the right of Congress or any state or locality to enact anti-discrimination laws. I therefore would take this opportunity to urge Congress to pass the Employment Non-Discrimination Act, an act which would extend employment discrimination protections to gays and lesbians in the workplace. This year the Senate considered this legislation contemporaneously with the Act I sign today and failed to pass it by a single vote. I hope that in its next Session Congress will pass it expeditiously.
I also want to make clear to all that the enactment of this legislation should not, despite the fierce and at times divisive rhetoric surrounding it, be understood to provide an excuse for discrimination, violence or intimidation against any person on the basis of sexual orientation. Discrimination, violence and intimidation for that reason, as well as others, violate the principle of equal protection under the law and have no place in American society.
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- Magazine subscription scam -- Spock, 14:11:56 08/01/03 Fri (user-vc8fm1s.biz.mindspring.com/216.135.216.60)
I think I may have discovered a new variety of mail-order subscription scam, as a result of lightning striking twice in the same place, so to speak.
At work, when I go through the mail, there are often lots of mailings offering various magazine subscriptions. Normally I throw these in the trash, or if it looks really interesting, I'll pass it on to the office magazine subscriber person for them to decide.
Twice now, in the past month or so, the respective magazine publisher has gone ahead and started a subscription anyway, without my having ordered it, and then started sending invoices, each with increasing urgency and terseness, approaching collection-letter tone.
With the first letter or two of the first subscription, I threw those away too. I hadn't ordered it, figured it was their fluke, and they'd stop sending it when they realized they weren't getting payment -- subscriptions will often cancel themselves that way. And it was a matter of principle that I shouldn't have to pay postage to tell them their error. When collection-letter language set in, however, I went ahead and wrote "cancel" on the invoice, and added "we never ordered this subscription" for good measure. And I haven't heard anything since, thankfully.
But today, I just got my introductory issue of ANOTHER magazine that I didn't order, complete with invoice -- I remember very distinctly the offer coming in, which I passed on to the subscriptions person who gave a resounding NO, and in the trash it went.
My take is that this new scam is very clever psychologically -- they're operating on the premise that most people are too busy to remember all they've done, particularly all the things they may have signed up for or ordered. They see a bill and pay it regardless. (Have you ever noticed how if you even enter a sweepstakes, the drawing usually doesn't occur until a date far in the future, by which time you'll probably have forgotten all about it, and entered several more in the mean time, thereby spreading around your mailing list potential.)
Granted, in the grand scheme, no harm done, I guess -- I haven't yet been held liable for these subscriptions. But I don't appreciate the harrassment, nor the time it wastes. My opinion of salespeople has never been high -- and I worked as a production manager in a sales office for 2 1/2 years and learned to confirm that opinion, and inform it a little too. Bottom line, I don't trust them. I never take sales calls, and screen them whenever possible. I signed up for the PA and the national "do not call" in a jiffy. Have you heard about how telemarketers are crying now, and suing the federal government over this? My husband describes them as essentially breaking and entering and harrassing -- we wouldn't let them do it in person, so why on the phone either? Add to that now, via the mail!
Has anybody else had anything like my subscription scam happen yet?
Should I be reporting this to one of those news shows that are always looking for new scoops, especially scams? It would seem to qualify, since I've heard stories done on how catalog companies will mail out different versions of the same catalog that have different prices for the same items, mailed by demographic determinations.
Respectfully submitted,
Spock
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- This I gottta see. So if they accurately quote a blatant lie told by, say a Democrat, then have they reported the truth. After all the quoted source did say what they reported, even if the source lied. Still lots of room for the same overt bias and lie-telling. The question is will they quote people who are telling the truth - even Democrats? -- SurveyGuy, 12:06:28 08/01/03 Fri (pcp03884941pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.32.204.89)
http://newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2003/7/30/145722
Wednesday, July 30, 2003
New York Times Hires Special Editors in Charge of Stopping Lies
We're almost starting to feel sorry for that Democrat mouthpiece known as the New York Times. Still reeling from its recent scandals, it has hired three editors whose jobs are pretty much to keep the paper from publishing more lies.
Acting on the recommendations of a committee, the Times said it would create three positions:
an editor in charge of standards to educate the staff "on matters of accuracy and ethics" (apparently it had no standards before)
a "public editor" to examine coverage and handle all those complaints from readers
an editor to oversee hiring and career development, i.e., to give preference to non-whites without creating another Jayson Blair.
"What we are out to do is raise our accountability for the management of our people, and acknowledge that it is inseparable from the making of our journalism," new Executive Editor Bill Keller said in a staff memo revealed today by the Associated Press.
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Addendum by me:
I once say Sen. Patrick Moynihan give a speech on TV (C-Span I think) to some organization railing against how Congress had "borrowed" all the money out of the Social Security trust fund and left an "IOU" in effect. I never saw this truth reported and never saw Moynihan ever talk about that again. This was over a dozen years ago. I guess his party shut him up. This is not to say that the Republicans are complicit in this as well by keeping silent and even voting for those measures. Now were here the big lie that it was designed as a "pay as you go" system. Oh yeah? Then why did you need a "trust fund" and why can't we trust Congress to not raid it?
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- More governmental incompetence. The FBI, the CIA, and now a glimpse into the dim bulbs who manage the Secret Service. -- SurveyGuy, 22:35:52 07/25/03 Fri (pcp03884941pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.32.204.89)
President Bush's Secret Service buffoons
by Michelle Malkin
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33751
Shame on the Secret Service. This week, it investigated renowned editorial cartoonist Michael Ramirez like he was some left-wing homeless crackpot who had sent President Bush an anthrax-laced death threat – all because Ramirez drew a provocative cartoon that was clearly intended to defend the president.
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- SurveyGuy, I enjoyed Michelle's article. She is among my favorites. Did you hear about the man who was kicked off of British Airways recently because he wore a tag which stated "Suspected Terrorist"? His girlfriend, seated separately, ten rows away, was also kicked off the flight merely because they knew one another. I think it is clever to wear such a tag. (NT) -- William, 23:47:56 07/26/03 Sat
- After my wife and I and our two small children were sent to a separate room before the airlines would accept our baggage, to have our belongings rifled through by hand, then through airport screening, then frisked, our shoes inspected, etc., before all the other passengers and passersby at the airport boarding area, I feel like carrying a name tag wich also says "Suspected Terrorist", because that is exactly what we are! (NT) -- William, 23:48:58 07/26/03 Sat
- That is what we are to the airport security people and the government busy bodies, even though we do not fit the profile of a terrorists, especially an Islamofascist terrorist. Another guy made a small card, about the size of an index card, 3" by 5", metalic list of the Bill of Rights. When he comes through the airport screening he pulls it out and "gives up his rights" in order to board the aircraft. That list gives people an opportunity to read what our bill of rights states. (NT) -- William, 23:51:00 07/26/03 Sat
- Here is the cartoon they responded to -- what do you think?
(NT) -- SurveyGuy, 22:25:05 07/28/03 Mon
- Kind of in poor taste, actually, IMHO - even though W's expression speaks volumes (as does the label on the back of the would-be assasin). But I also think the Secret Service way overreacted without checking things out properly first -- context is a lost art of understanding. Nobody remembers history, so the Vietnam reference was lost in favor of hairtrigger/knee-jerk responses, whereby one goes to the trouble of straining out a gnat only to swallow a camel. (NT) -- Spock, 12:41:53 07/29/03 Tue
- And don't forget the sign that says "Iraq." Ramirez actually had to explain the cartoon to a Times reporter. The problem is that the message is too difficult for minds that function at a primitive level -- but what of their managers?! Sometimesbeing provocative may be called distasteful. Clearly these are allegorical images. He needed to put a tag on the gun labelled "Distortions" to compete the story for the Secret Service. Taste has nothing to do with it. (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 21:04:37 07/29/03 Tue
- SurveyGuy, I did read the cartoon after I read your post. Thanks for posting it here. I don't see the problem with this cartoon. There is the clear implication, for those who might be aware of the current news, that politics are targeting Bush, as is actually taking place here in the US these days. Some of the Dems, especially those who are running for president, wish to bring Bush down a few notches. The Dems are weak on terror and Bush is stronger than they are so they have to deconstruct Bush and his appearance of strength. (NT) -- William, 03:11:54 07/30/03 Wed
- What gets me is that they are adding a lit match to gasoline and contributing to the extension of problems here and abroad as well as throwing the Iraqi people to the wolves by prolonging the problems there by feeding into them by siding against our president and US soldiers.
Sometimes splitting hairs is not the best and most prudent thing to do. Now is the time for unity and a show of resolute intentions, not petty, destructive, counterproductive political rangling falsely parading as patriotism or concern. (NT)
-- William, 03:15:01 07/30/03 Wed
- Spock, people are so dishonest, cruel and vicious to demonize Bush, Blair, the US, and those who actually take steps to fight thugs like Saddam, the Ba'athists, bin Laden, al Qaeda, and the soldiers and others who actually fight these thugs, calling Bush "Hitler" while greviously denying Saddam Hussein is anything like Hitler. They demonize the US for taking steps to protect itself. These same people think it is a good idea to go out and send troops to be killed for "humanitarian" reasons in countries or for reason which we did not chose for our own security (e.g, Liberia, Bosnia, etc.) (NT) -- William, 03:24:40 07/30/03 Wed
- Finally a scapegoat to blame for 911? Why do I get feeling that I am being misdirected? How can Al Gore have created the internet and Louie Freeh been such a Luddite? I thought alleged technophile Gore was going to reinvent government. How come Louie had such a bad barber? But I digress ... what's your take on this little new item? -- SurveyGuy, 18:36:05 07/23/03 Wed (pcp03884941pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.32.204.89)
PBS Show Blames Clinton's FBI Director Freeh for 9/11
Bill Clinton's FBI director was so fearful of technology that he left America exposed to the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, according to a documentary airing tonight on the pro-Democrat network PBS.
"If this 'National Georgraphic Special' is to be believed, then Louis Freeh must have been the biggest knucklehead ever to run the FBI," Adam Buckman writes in today's New York Post.
According to the program, one of his first orders upon taking over in 1993 was having the computer removed from his office. He was unfamiliar with e-mail and "was unconvinced that the bureau's outdated computer network would hamper the FBI's ability to close cases or prevent catastrophes."
"This documentary," Buckman writes, "actually goes so far as to suggest that Freeh's unwillingness to modernize the FBI's computers left the bureau and the nation unprepared for 9/11."
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- It would seem the "crisis" in civil liberties is centered in NYC caused by the revenue drive of Mayor Bloomberg directing cops to ticket all minor infractions to raise funds. My reaction is to continue to stay the hell out of NYC. He ran as a Republican, desoite being a long-time Democratic supporter. While he may have a reputation as philanthropist, I see no kindness towards the working stiff. Several weeks ago, an $80 ticket was given to a guy resting on a milk crate for improper use of a milk crate. -- SurveyGuy (Still voting libertarian next time around), 13:43:24 07/20/03 Sun (pcp03884941pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.32.204.89)
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33662
YOUR GOVERNMENT AT WORK
Man hauled off by cops for using 2 subway seats
Rider in NYC claims 'bum rap' after bust on almost vacant train
A 21-year-old man was ordered off a Manhattan-bound subway and issued a summons by New York City police for stretching out across more than one seat on the nearly-empty train, according to a report in the New York Post.
Regular subway rider Stephen Lamarch was on his way to his 4 a.m. shift at Rockefeller Center, where he works as a grounds landscaper. There was only one other person in the car in the early morning hours so he decided to stretch his 5-foot-6 frame over two seats.
Unfortunately for Lamarch, subway rules ban taking up more than one seat per posterior.
He tells the Post two plain clothes cops stepped onboard at one of the train's stops and said: ''NYPD. You're coming with us.''
Lamarch says he was detained for about 15 minutes and grilled about his identity and destination before being issued a summons for taking up more than one subway-car seat.
The summons reads: "Did observe respondent laying across three seats."
Lamarch says he was only taking up two seats and didn't think it was a crime since it was 2:30 a.m. and the car was practically deserted.
"I see stuff like this in the papers and I think it's ridiculous, how could that happen? And now it's happened to me,'' he told the Post.
A police spokesman says the cops did the right thing.
''The New York City Police Department credits the enforcement of petty offenses with a 14.5 percent decline in major crimes in the transit system in 2003,'' the spokesman told the newspaper.
Lamarch plans to fight the $50 fine, but the ordeal has already cost him. He was fifteen minutes late for work and docked an hour's pay.
"I was taken off the train on my way to work, to earn a living. It's like a wrench in the gears and on top of it, I have to pay," Lamarch complained to the Post.
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- Title: Idiot Comment of the week (Ann Coulter) -- H_Bergeron, 01:59:55 07/11/03 Fri (pcp04097145pcs.neave01.pa.comcast.net/68.81.189.215)
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Subject: Idiot Comment of the week (Ann Coulter)
Idiot Comment of the week (Ann Coulter)
"No serious person thinks that we are in the middle of a civil-liberties crisis"
Ann Coulter, Time Magazine July 14, 2003
(via Page 8, 10 questions for Ann Coulter)
link to full article
Q and A in context with statement bolded
Q: In Treason you say, "Liberals' principal contribution to the war on terrorism
has been to bill themselves as a corrective to 'jingoism.' Their real goal is too appalling to state out loud."
Care to state it out loud?
A: They are rooting against America.
I don't think there is any other way to explain hysterical claims of a civil-liberties emergency
in this country every time John Ashcroft talks to a Muslim.
No serious person thinks that we are in the middle of a civil-liberties crisis.
We have just seen thousands of fellow Americans slaughtered by legal immigrants to this country.
And John Ashcroft has detained several hundred illegal immigrants?
The best critique I've read concerning Ann Coulter
is this article from Spinsanity -
a site which I highly recommend for articles that aren't afraid to go after the left or the right -
sometimes both in the same article...
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- I have not read Ann Coulter's book "Treason" yet. I have read excerpts from it here and there. With that said, that I have not read the book but I have read excerpts (here and there) I see nothing major wrong with her book ... yet. I know that David Horowitz also criticized her book as well. Why don't I have a BIG problem with it yet ...? (NT) -- William, 00:16:39 07/14/03 Mon
- Because, from what I have seen, she is using a magnifying glass to bring to light the dishonesty and anti-US agenda of the Liberals and the Leftists. The Leftists and Liberals do much worse than she has done, and it is their modus operandae. I think Ann Coulter, right or wrong, adds balance to Liberal and Leftist lies and rhetoric, by blowing their BS up large for all the world to see, even if it is a bit exaggerated at times. (NT) -- William, 00:17:42 07/14/03 Mon
- I first note that's from Time magazine. Then I focus on the word "crisis." While I think there may be some affronts to civil liberties, i do not think it has reached anything near a crisis. Do you? I think terms like "crisis" are overused so they lose their meaning. While I am not at all pleased with several Ashcroft's actions, is it yet a crisis? We should be critical in measure. (NT) -- SurveyGuy, 20:36:51 07/14/03 Mon
- The problem is that the Democrats prove Coulter correct each and every day regardless of the well-written, spinsanity piece. If she had called the book "Sedition," few would have even looked at the title. With many Democrats there is a pattern -- character assassination to win power, no matter what the cost to the country. Look at the discussions of extending the crisis in CA caught on open mike, for political gain. (NT) -- SurveyGuy (Not needing Coulter's book to come to the same conclusion.), 16:48:05 07/25/03 Fri
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Are multiculturalism and diversity merely code words for closed minds and censorship? Here's another example that idiots are in charge in our universities. I think I will start calling them "monoversities."
-- SurveyGuy, 18:32:08 07/06/03 Sun (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)
www.thefire.org
Cal Poly Student Punished for Posting Flier
Public University Gives Heckler's Veto to Students Who Claim “Offense”
SAN LUIS OBISPO, CA—In the spring of 2003, a student at the California Polytechnic State University (Cal Poly) was found guilty of “disruption” for posting a flier—in a public area—that some students found “offensive.” The public university placed unequal rights above the Bill of Rights. “Allowing some individuals to veto the protected expression of others is an unconscionable betrayal of Cal Poly’s moral and legal obligations,” said Thor L. Halvorssen, CEO of the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE).
On November 12, 2002, Steve Hinkle, an undergraduate and a member of the Cal Poly College Republicans (CPCR), posted fliers advertising a speech by Mason Weaver, author of It’s OK to Leave the Plantation. In that book, Weaver argues that dependence on the government puts many African-Americans in circumstances similar to slavery. Weaver’s speech was sponsored by both CPCR and the student government. The flier contained merely the title of the book, a photograph of the author (who is African-American), and the time and location of the speech.
When Hinkle sought to post a flier on a public bulletin board in the Multicultural Center, several students approached him. They claimed that they were “offended” by the flier and that it was in violation of the Center’s posting policy. Hinkle left to check the policy, confirming that he was indeed in compliance. While he was gone, one of the students called the university police. The officer summoned to the Center stated in writing that he was investigating a report of “a suspicious white male passing out literature of an offensive racial nature.”
The students in the Multicultural Center admit trying to prevent Hinkle from advertising the event. Charges were brought not against these censors, however, but against Hinkle himself. On January 29, 2003, Cal Poly charged Hinkle with “disruption” of a “campus event.” The students who objected to the posting of the flier claimed that they were holding a Bible study dinner and meeting at the time of the incident. The university’s “finding of facts” notes that the Bible study group is not officially recognized, that the bulletin board is in a public “student lounge area,” and that no notice of any kind indicated that a meeting was underway at the time.
In February, Cal Poly subjected Hinkle to a lengthy hearing. He was denied the right to have a lawyer present at the proceedings, but his faculty advisor made a transcript. At that hearing, Cornel Morton, vice president for student affairs, told Hinkle: “You are a young white male member of CPCR. To students of color, this may be a collision of experience.… The chemistry has racial implications, and you are naïve not to acknowledge those.”
On March 12, Vice Provost W. David Conn found Hinkle guilty. Conn ordered Hinkle to write letters of apology to the offended students. The sentencing letter from Conn stated that the text of the apology would be subject to the approval of the Office of Judicial Affairs. The letter also warned that “there is no parameter or guarantee regarding the confidentiality of the letter [of apology]” and that “this decision is final.” Conn informed Hinkle that if he did not accept this punishment, he would face much stiffer penalties, up to expulsion.
Hinkle submitted his case to FIRE. On April 15, 2003, Greg Lukianoff, FIRE’s director of legal and public advocacy, wrote to Cal Poly President Warren J. Baker, urging him to defend Steve Hinkle’s fundamental constitutional rights. Lukianoff demonstrated the absurdity of a “disruption” charge against someone who was silently posting, on a public bulletin board, a flier for an approved campus event. Moreover, Lukianoff wrote, the “disrupted” students were “not a recognized student group and the ‘meeting’ was therefore not a ‘campus function.’ Ironically, Mr. Hinkle was actually posting fliers for an event that was sponsored by a recognized student group and by the student government, and it is he who has the far better claim to ‘campus function’ status.”
Lukianoff continued: “All accounts agree that Mr. Hinkle, who only wanted to post a flier, was then approached by the students—not the other way around.” Hinkle’s accusers, he noted, “themselves initiated what they later claimed was his ‘disruption’….If they had allowed Mr. Hinkle to go about his constitutionally protected activity, there would have been no ‘disruption’ at all. All of this leads FIRE to draw the obvious conclusion: Mr. Hinkle and the CPCR are being punished for the content of their expression.”
On May 9, 2003, Cal Poly’s legal counsel, Carlos Cordova, responded to FIRE’s letter. Cordova denied any wrongdoing and did not substantively address any of FIRE’s specific concerns. Today, Steve Hinkle remains punished for trying to post a factual, simple, and constitutionally protected flier.
“I have been distracted from my studies because a handful of my fellow students want to see me punished for the content of my flier,” Hinkle said. “With FIRE in my corner, I now hope that Cal Poly will be made to respect my free speech rights.”
“Cal Poly grants selected students abusive control over the expression of other students,” Halvorssen noted. “Disagreement, now called ‘offense,’ is all it takes to get Cal Poly administrators to launch an inquiry and secure a conviction on a spurious charge of ‘disruption.’ Cal Poly gives some people the power to veto what others have to say. Students at that institution now live in insecure possession of their most basic First Amendment rights.”
The Foundation for Individual Rights in Education is a nonprofit educational foundation. FIRE unites civil rights and civil liberties leaders, scholars, journalists, and public intellectuals across the political and ideological spectrum on behalf of individual rights, freedom of expression, freedom of conscience, and due process on our nation’s campuses. FIRE’s efforts to preserve liberty at Cal Poly and elsewhere can be seen by visiting www.thefire.org.
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- This looks like something we hear from kids in many public schools throughout the United States -- William, 02:35:52 07/04/03 Fri (cache-dl03.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.39)
Imagine, with the quality of some public school education systems today, the following historical presentation being given by a student.
Little Known Fact
Many stories have come to us from the tragic sinking of the great ship Titanic . . . some are not as well known as others.
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellman's mayonnaise was manufactured in England.
In fact, the "Titanic" was carrying 12,000 jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after New York. To date, the largest shipment ever exported to Mexico.
The people of Mexico, who were crazy about the stuff, were eagerly awaiting delivery and were disconsolate at the loss.
So much so that they declared a National Day of mourning which they still observe today. It is known, of course, as Sinko de Mayo.
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- Truth is (sometimes) funnier than fiction. -- SurveyGuy, 16:42:52 06/27/03 Fri (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)
As I read this short article, I thought to myself: "Gee, the Kennedy clan would make much more amusing real life MTV than the Osbornes."
Friday, June 27, 2003
Patrick Kennedy: 'I Never Worked a &#$@! Day in My Life'
Wacky Rep. Patrick Kennedy, D-R.I., is at it again. "I don't need Bush's tax cut. I have never worked a [bleeping] day in my life," he said Wednesday night at a gathering of Young Democrats at the Washington nightspot Acropolis.
"With that he got the audience's attention - the dropping-jaws kind," the Washington Post reported today.
The Post quoted one witness as saying, "He droned on and on, frequently mentioning how much better the candidates would sound the more we drank."
According to the newspaper, Kennedy "let his mouth race ahead of his brain," which "sometimes happens with" him.
So how much will Patrick be giving to the tax-me-more fund for Guilty White Liberals?
To learn more about this particular Kennedy's history of bizarre behavior, click here.
Despite this latest gaffe, Patrick still hasn't taken top prize in the hotly contested Stupid Sayings by the Kennedy "Clan." That honor would go to cousin Michael Skakel, for his infamous boast: "I am going to get away with murder. I am a Kennedy."
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- Followup on a story a few months old. Maybe if more people would sue the bastards, we could get back some of our civil liberties. -- SurveyGuy, 11:31:43 06/26/03 Thu (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)
Judge: Woman free
to wear cross to work
Court rules in favor of agency employee suspended over Christian symbol
Posted: June 26, 2003 1:00 a.m. Eastern © 2003 WorldNetDaily.com
A federal district court judge in Pittsburgh ruled yesterday an educational agency that suspended an employee from her job for wearing a cross pendant violated the woman's constitutional rights in doing so.
The American Center for Law and Justice, or ACLJ, the public-interest law firm that filed suit on behalf of the teacher's aide, said the action represents a victory for the First Amendment.
"We're delighted that the court acted to protect the constitutional rights of our client," said Vincent McCarthy, Senior Counsel of ACLJ, in a statement. "By granting our motion for a preliminary injunction, the court realized that the policies and actions of the state educational agency were not only wrong, but unconstitutional as well. ... The decision sends a strong message that laws and policies that result in religious discrimination are not acceptable."
As WorldNetDaily reported, officials at ARIN Intermediate Unit 28 in Pennsylvania suspended Brenda Nichol, 43, for one year for refusing to stop wearing a one-and-a-quarter-inch cross, which they said violated a Pennsylvania Public School Code prohibition against teachers wearing religious garb. The woman is an eight-year employee of the agency.
"I got suspended April 8, 2003, for wearing a cross to work and not being willing to either remove it or tuck it in," she told the Indiana Gazette in April.
Crosses and Stars of David are examples of prohibited jewelry under the state's law on public schools, according to Dr. Robert H. Coad Jr., executive director of ARIN.
The ARIN handbook says employees may wear a cross or other religious jewelry as long as it cannot be seen by others.
Of the regulation, Nichol said at the time the suit was filed: "I could not follow that code in my heart. I could not deny Christ."
In a 42-page order granting a motion for preliminary injunction, according to the ACLJ statement, U.S. District Court Judge Arthur J. Schwab said the state statute does not apply to Nichol because of her teacher's aide position, but that if it did it would be unconstitutional.
The policy is "openly and overtly averse to religion because it singles out and punishes only symbolic speech by its employees having religious content or viewpoint, while permitting its employees to wear jewelry containing secular messages or no messages at all," the order said.
The court concluded ARIN's policy violates the Free Exercise Clause of the First Amendment and ordered that Nichol be reinstated to her former position with full back pay and benefits pending final disposition of the case at a hearing Aug. 28.
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- Is this an allegory or a parable? Or maybe it's just a joke. -- SurveyGuy, 11:20:23 06/26/03 Thu (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)
This joke is being circulated. Somehow it seemed appropriate to post it here.
Dan Rather, Jesse Jackson, Cokie Roberts from National Public Radio and an Israeli soldier were hiking through the jungle one day when they were captured by cannibals. They were tied up, led to the village and brought before the chief.
The chief said, "I am familiar with your western custom of granting the condemned a last wish. Before we kill and eat you, do you have any last requests?"
Dan Rather said, "Well, I'm a Texan; so I'd like one last bowlful of hot, spicy chili." The chief nodded to an underling, who left and returned with the chili. Rather ate it all and said, "Now I can die content."
Jesse Jackson said, "You know, the thing in this life I am proudest of is my work on behalf of the poor and oppressed. So before I go, I want to sing "We Shall Overcome" one last time." The chief said, "Go right ahead, we're listening." Jackson sang the song, and then said, "Now I can die in peace."
Cokie Roberts said, "I'm a reporter to the end. I want to take out my tape recorder and describe the scene here and what's about to happen. Maybe someday someone will hear it and know that I was on the job til the end." The chief directed an aide to hand over the tape recorder, and Roberts dictated some comments. She then said, "Now I can die happy."
The chief said, "And, Mr. Israeli soldier, what is your final wish?"
"Kick me in the ass." said the Israeli.
"What?" said the chief. "Will you mock us in your last hour?" "No, I'm not kidding. I want you to kick me in the ass." insisted the Israeli.
So the chief untied the soldier, shoved him into the open, and kicked him in the ass. The Israeli went sprawling, but rolled to his knees,pulled a 9mm pistol from his waistband, and shot the chief dead. In the resulting confusion, he leapt to his knapsack, pulled out his uzi, and sprayed the cannibals with gunfire. In a flash, the annibals were all dead or fleeing for their lives.
As the Israeli was untying the others, they each asked him, "Why didn't you just shoot them? Why did you ask them to kick you in the ass?"
"What!?" said the Israeli, "And have you f***ers call ME the aggressor?!?"
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- Oh God that is so true! Did I say GOD? ooooooo nooooo .... (NT) -- Gary, 13:40:05 06/26/03 Thu
- Hah! Too funny. And too true. What do you want to bet the anti-gun crowd would be outraged over just such a situation, and rather than laud the brave man who saved himself and his companions, instead come down on him as a violent murderer of those poor primitive savages, and if it weren't for his guns, they'd...uuuuhhh....they'd all be dead....uuuhhh....wait a minute....there's gotta be a way to make the logic work here somehow.... (NT) -- Spock, 16:45:21 06/26/03 Thu
- If it weren't for that mean, evil, aggressive, murdering Nazi Israel Soldier, those sweet, innocent, bothering nobody, cannibals would have had a very lousy meal of three very unpleasant individuals, while some might not mind Cokie Roberts as much as the others. As a result, those poor cannibals will go hungry and the children of those who were killed will now have to grow up without a father and/or mother. If not for that mean Israeli soldier interfering with their way of life! (NT) -- William, 00:36:27 06/27/03 Fri
- Spock, does that help make the logic work? Gotta' find a way to nail that nasty Israel soldier for ruining the cannibals' dinner and saving his own life as well as those of Jackson, Roberts, and Rather. It was a clever situational comedy, was it not? (NT) -- William, 23:59:48 06/27/03 Fri
- Another clever bit of humor, and so close to truth that it almost hurts! (NT) -- William, 00:31:42 06/27/03 Fri
- Lite reading -- William, 04:25:15 06/24/03 Tue (cache-dl03.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.39)
Once upon a time in a court room in a small town ...
A small town prosecuting attorney called his first witness to the stand in a trial--a grandmotherly, elderly woman. He approached her and asked, "Mrs. Jones, do you know me?"
She responded, "Why, yes, I do know you Mr. Williams. I've known you since you were a young boy. And frankly, you've been a big disappointment to me. You lie, you cheat on your wife, you manipulate people and talk about them behind their backs. You think you're a rising big shot when you haven't the brains to realize you never will amount to anything more than a two-bit paper pusher. Yes, I know you."
The lawyer was stunned. Not knowing what else to do he pointed across the room and asked, "Mrs. Williams, do you know the defense attorney?"
She again replied, "Why, yes I do. I've known Mr. Bradley since he was a youngster, too. I used to baby-sit him for his parents. And he, too, has been a real disappointment to me. He's lazy, bigoted, he has a drinking problem. The man can't build a normal relationship with anyone and his law practice is one of the shoddiest in the entire state. Yes, I know him."
At this point, the judge rapped the courtroom to silence and called both counselors to the bench. In a very quiet voice, he said with menace, "If either of you asks her if she knows me, you'll be in jail for contempt of court in a heart beat!"
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- FBI Agent killed Vince Foster and Chandra Levy -- Barbara Bateman, 23:17:00 06/20/03 Fri (cache-dl03.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.39)
Vince Foster and Chandra Levy were killed by blonde FBI agent for Hillary Clinton, blue eyed, straight blonde hair, page boy,round face, security guard and possibly is/has been the same guard for Barbra Streisand.
He wore FBI black suit and coat at Klinger Park on date of murder and ran to driver's side of mercedes/type car
with creamy leather interior. No tie was on.
Black guy also is perpetrator on Levy case,wore campaign hat, left eye is round, shallow, is the term, muscular trainer male.
i was praying and fasting a year ago wnen I saw incident in late afternoon almost sundown when FBI agent ran to the car.
Words were written in vision. I notified authorities in DC.
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- Vince Foster's body was found in Ft. Marcy Park. (NT) -- SG, 18:04:07 06/21/03 Sat
- Chandra Levy was found in Rock Creek Park. I wonder what black, blue-eyed, blonde perp did to get allthese unrelated bodies moving around. (NT) -- SG [I heard fasting can cause hallucinations], 18:10:50 06/21/03 Sat
- I was in a meditative state of Nirvikalpa Samadhi and I revisited the crimes. Vince Foster was done by the butler with the candle holder while Chandra Levy was done by Buddy, the Clinton's dog. He was run over by a car as a plot to hush him up before he spoke to Woodward and Bernstein and spilled the beans. Also, Osama bin Laden in now doing standup comedy on HBO and in a little town in Peru. Saddam Hussein is playing soccer for Sri Lanka's football team. (NT) -- William, 04:39:35 06/24/03 Tue
- Elvis is living at 24,000 ft on K-2 and still keeps a home in Belize. He works under cover for the DEA. Jimmi Hendrix has changed his look and his name and has been playing cello for the Turino, Italia, Symphony Orchestra as Gino Valencia. (NT) -- William, 04:40:36 06/24/03 Tue
- Thought for today.... -- Spock, 10:37:53 06/19/03 Thu (user-vc8fm1s.biz.mindspring.com/216.135.216.60)
"Constant complaint is the poorest sort of pay for all the comforts we enjoy."
-- Benjamin Franklin
(AKA, biting the hand that feeds you...?)
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- An interesting essay on a spreading technology. How will it affect ur lives, if at all? -- SurveyGuy, 09:36:27 06/17/03 Tue (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)
Phonecam Nation
Everyone's posting instant photos on the Web. Get ready for your close-up.
By Xeni Jardin
To read this essay, go to http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/11.07/start.html?pg=2
After you have read it, consider the ramifications to personal privacy. I know the argument that if you are on a public street you should have no expectation of privacy, but is that really true? It is one thing to be transiently seen by the public, yet another to have your picture snapped and published so that anyone in the world can see it.
No easy answers here. Just tell us how nervous this makes you and if you expect to have to punch out some people. Maybe it's a bad hair day or something. You don't have to be doing anything wrong to be annoyed by this. The potential for harrassment is great. Should we be concerned? Only time will tell.
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- "Dr" Bryant is Mr. Bryant -- John, 20:39:46 06/16/03 Mon (cache-dl03.proxy.aol.com/205.188.209.39)
Reggie Bryant has a bachelor's and master's degree from Temple U. No doctorate. For additional details see the following site. http://www.delleast.org/instructors.html
Reggie is always very antagonistic when people ask him about his credentials and he never corrects them when they call him doctor. I think he's a real phoney. He loves to say "it's not what you know that hurts you, but what you know that just ain't so". What a hypocrite.
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- News Flash! -- SurveyGuy, 08:56:08 06/13/03 Fri (pcp01422563pcs.lndsd201.pa.comcast.net/68.81.153.209)
News Flash!
At Heathrow Airport today, an individual, later discovered to be a public school math teacher, was arrested trying to board a flight while in possession of a compass, a protractor, and a graphic calculator.
Authorities believe he is a member of the notorious al-Gebra movement. He is being charged with carrying weapons of math instruction.
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- Al-Gebra -- John D., 13:21:43 06/15/03 Sun
- I enjoyed the joke, SurveyGuy. Thank you.
After the war in Iraq, after the rhetoric, the lies, the spin put forth by the oppostion here and abroad, including the Left and the Right, and after seeing how these people are still nit picking and fighting tooth and nail, this time trying to make Bush, Powell, Blair, et all, out to be evil men (as they tried to do before Iraq was liberated), I can see that people are misdirected and misguiged idiots. Russia, China, France, Germany, and others were involved in "illegal" activities with Iraq yet get a free pass. (NT)
-- William, 02:52:20 06/16/03 Mon
- The Arab countries are involved with anti-Semetic acts and sentiment as well as hatred of the West and not just the United States, and get a free pass. Iraqis were oppressed for decades and their oppressors get a free pass. The US President, Bush, Colin Powel, along with the US itself, and Britain's PM Blair are damned if the do and damned if they don't. The good guys are demonized and the bad guys are applauded and get a free pass, they can do no wrong. The world is sick! (NT) -- William, 02:53:23 06/16/03 Mon
- Poor, misguided soul....maybe he was just looking for direction in life? (NT) -- Spock (seeing your pun and raising you a wordplay), 12:16:39 06/16/03 Mon
- I subscribe to the vastly amusing "Dilbert Newsletter" -- In the current issue, Scott Adams offers this pithy commentary about current world events and attitudes.... -- Spock, 15:11:17 06/11/03 Wed (user-vc8fm1s.biz.mindspring.com/216.135.216.60)
Dumb Rich People
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I recently read an article by an economist who said that poverty causes people to become terrorists. He used big words and was very convincing.
Then I watched TV coverage of a high school hazing ritual in an upscale suburban neighborhood. Dozens of well-to-do Induhviduals paid for the privilege of sitting in a field and having mud, paint, garbage, eggs, pig guts, and excrement shoved up their nostrils while being beaten with blunt objects.
I'm not an economist, but my theory is that you can convince a certain percentage of Induhviduals to do any dangerous thing, whether they happen to be poor or not. So let's stop picking on poor people. If peer pressure can convince 20% of rich kids to start smoking cigarettes -- and it does -- it isn't much of a leap to convince them to grow scraggly beards and drive exploding cars. It's mostly a difference in timing.
Osama inherited half a billion dollars. So I rule out poverty as a cause of terror. I blame rich Induhviduals, and peer pressure.
Peer pressure is the most powerful force on the planet, and we need to use it to our advantage. For example, I recommend that the Western media and politicians stop using the menacing-yet-cool phrase "Al-Qaeda" and start referring to the group as the "frickin' Induhviduals."
Like the proverbial dog chasing a car, the Induhviduals haven't considered what would happen if they caught one. For example, let's say they (the Induhviduals, not the dogs) accomplish their stated goal of destroying the economies of the Western world. Is that really a good plan for people who live in a desert and import most of their food?
Just for the record, if I'm down to my last potato, I'm not sharing it with a guy who wants to kill me so he can get a better supply of virgins in paradise. That lesson is a little thing I call Economics 101, infidel style.
For the Induhviduals, it must look as if Americans are really dumb to have the most awesome arsenal in the history of the world and still be unable to stop terror attacks. They don't realize that the way Americans look at it is that, so far, we're "really mad," but not yet "REALLY, REALLY mad." Oh, there's a difference. Americans
understand that somewhere between "inconvenient air travel" and "complete breakdown of Western civilization," the "REALLY, REALLY mad" part kicks in. I won't give away what happens then, but remember you first heard the phrase "New Iowa" in the Dilbert Newsletter.
And let's stop calling the terrorist supporters "fundamentalists," because that sounds like it could be a good thing. I recommend a more descriptive label, such as "slow learners," to keep things in
perspective. Then let's airdrop science and economics textbooks on their terrorist training camps with condescending notes, such as, "Maybe this will help. Call us if you have questions."
This would be a small step, in the sense that reading books about economics is only slightly better than suicide. But you have to start somewhere.
That's my plan. If you have a better one, be sure to include it in your next newsletter.
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