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Date Posted: 02:52:55 03/31/00 Fri
Author: Didi
Subject: Re: Because of some prejudices and other factors...
In reply to: ZO 's message, "Because of some prejudices and other factors..." on 16:35:45 03/30/00 Thu

Hi Lorenzo,

thank you for answering.

> now we are always in
> our very own Student Lounge (open to VUB students as
> well by the way), and in around the corner at
> TimeSquare... and the computer 'lab' seems to be a
> popular hangout.


OK, true. I have noticed your lounge, but the difficulty is actually making the step and meeting complete strangers. Maybe I'm too afraid to do it on my own?

> The last time we tried to do something with the VUB
> (the Cuiss-Tax), we were, to say the least, the
> laughing stock of the crowd. We didnt drink beer like
> them and didnt seem as imposing. We were there to have
> a good time and try and particpate. With a mix of
> circumstances there was an injury, the same few people
> got tired... so we packed up and all went away. The
> VUB students didnt seem to mind at all.


I'm very sorry that it didn't work out. Pithy. Of course there is a different mental institution between Belgians and VECO students... I like the VUB parties, but the amount of interesting people you meet there is zero. They just go there for the booze and I wonder if the Veco parties are the same thing. However, I don't want to critisize the VUB students too much. Maybe the VECO students were too afraid to come forward and start a conversation with the VUB students (or vice versa)?!

> First and foremost VUB
> students see us as a small group of rich kids. In SOME
> cases that is absolutely true. There are the sons and
> daughters of some of the most influential people in
> Belgium that have gone/are going to our college. SOME
> of them have a totally horrible attitutude of being
> stuck up and arrogant... others are totally down to
> Earth.


I don't have problem with that. Who cares what social background one has. As long as one is an interesting person!
wow, that sounded formal


> This is a very similar situation to the VUB. You
> CANNOT hide the fact that some students of the VUB
> (and faculty by the way) drive around in Porsches,
> LOTUS', BMWs, etc etc....

I always thought that that Lotus Elise was a VECO car ;)

>
> So what can/could be done? The issue of closer
> relations with the VUB is almost always a moote point
> in the Vesalius Student Government (VSG) agenda

Maybe Veco can organize a party by themselves in the VUB's ugliest meeting point, the BSG? And hopefully you will draw a crowd because Erasmus' "Walk on the Wildside" really sucked.

> So... DIDI... you want to converse in English with us?
> I think that is a GREAT idea. What could we do?
> Realistically? Conversation groups? Bilateral classes
> where we find out about each other's cultures? I could
> propose that... have a class together...

Yes maybe. I like bilateral classes. Perhaps VUB students should be able to select a VECO course as one of their option courses?
My first intention was not really getting in touch with each other through classes, but more closing the gap between Veco and VUB by getting more in touch through activities?

>
> But let me warn you about one thing... hehe... there
> over 300 Vesalius Students... of which I dare say more
> than 30-40 speak English as a mother tongue/fluently.
> Everyone around here is good at English (sometimes)
> but Im not TOTALLY sure if you want to come and
> converse with people whose language is not English
> anyway!

It's not really about talking English I guess, it's more getting in contact with different cultures, expanding horizons and even more meeting "interesting" people, who at least have something to say.

> If you can propose something realistic, that could
> appeal to a very difficult crowd (motivating these
> guys is like trying to get a herd of horses to drink
> water), I will be the first to bring forward a joint
> plan...

Let me think about it. I know you organized a pool contest, that's fun. What about a pool (or even bowling) challenge between VECO and some VUB teams?

Didi.

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