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Subject: Re: Scoop, Poop & last night


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Date Posted: 14:48:26 12/07/02 Sat
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In reply to: Pia Pearl 's message, "Re: Scoop, Poop & last night" on 12:12:12 12/07/02 Sat

>>>I met this Roger Friedman last night at the Lord Of
>>>The Rings, part deux, last night at the after party.
>>>He is a fat, small guy who wears glasses. I just kept
>>>thinking that he looks like Elvis Costello, LOL.
>Thats
>>>prolly why Bebe likes him, LOL.
>>>Anyway, I asked him why he writes such shit and he
>>>says he only writes his information after he has
>>>confirmation from at least three sources. Then up
>>>comes Bebe with Liv's sister Mia and some guy I
>assume
>>>was Bebe's husband. Liv was across the room doing
>>>photos and stuff. This is where the story gets
>>>interesting.
>>
>>It's obvious that Roger has a crush on Bebe so that
>>impairs his judgment. He's a hack gossip columnist, so
>>don't expect him to be have high professional
>>standards in the first place. His work isn't the kind
>>that wins the Pulitzer Prize.
>>
>>>This Roger guy says "Bebe, this is Sarah(my name) and
>>>she thinks I'm a hack". Bebe laughed and said, "well,
>>>you are Dodger". I guess that is some stupid name she
>>>calls him. Anyway, I then asked Bebe what she thought
>>>about the breakup of Elvis and Cait and she said,
>"I'm
>>>sorry but I have no interest in discussing Mr.
>>>Costello." Whaaaaaaaa! I then said, "are you writing
>>>another book?" She said "you'll just have to wait and
>>>see". Miss bitch and Miss vague.
>>
>>Translation: No, she's not writing another book. No
>>publisher would want a second book from her anyway.
>>Why would any publisher want Bebe to do another book
>>when her first one flopped and she's getting sued for
>>libel over it?
>>
>>>Mia was holding onto her for dear life and as big of
>a
>>>bitch as she is, she really looked good. I have to be
>>>honest about that. In person she is much prettier
>than
>>>in pictures or on TV. I thought she looked horrible
>on
>>>Howard Stern. In person she looks nothing like that.
>>>Her hair is so long too. That surprised me. It is
>down
>>>to her waist. Her husband is a hottie. He was sweet,
>>>Bebe was a bitch.
>>
>>Mia's mother died in September, so in her grief, poor
>>Mia sees Bebe as some kind of mother figure. Grief can
>>make people do crazy things.
>>
>>>Sorry, the story isn't over. I went to the bathroom
>>>about an hour later and Bebe was in there ALONE. So,
>I
>>>went up to her again and she said, "hi, Sarah". I
>>>couldn't believe she remembered my name. She then
>went
>>>on to say that she was sorry to be so abrupt with me
>>>on the subject of Elvis but that she doesn't want to
>>>do anything to hurt her husband or her marriage. Her
>>>exact words were, "Elvis isn't worth it. He doesn't
>>>have a place in my life anymore. We have settled our
>>>bad feelings and are both living our lives." I then
>>>asked her about Groupie Central and was shocked at
>her
>>>response. She said something to the effect that "we
>>>got off to a bad start there and they hate me now. I
>>>haven't looked at that place in months."
>>
>>Bullshit. Bebe is a pathological liar and there are
>>several places on the Internet where she's been
>>ranting about Coyote Shivers, Groupie Central, and
>>arguing with anyone who doesn't agree with her. It's
>>clear from her rants that she still reads this message
>>board. She's also been ranting about how Elvis
>>Costello still writes songs about her, so it's
>>laughable that she pretends she still doesn't obsess
>>over him. EVERYONE knows she's behind this propaganda
>>but when she's confronted with it face to face, she
>>denies it.
>>
>>Just to give you an example of what kind of liar she
>>is, last year someone posted a message on this board
>>saying he met Bebe at one of her book signings and
>>asked Bebe about her feud with Coyote on the Groupie
>>Central message board, and Bebe denied ever posting
>>any messages on Groupie Central. She had the nerve to
>>say it was an imposter! But there's so much proof from
>>Bebe herself that she did post messages here. That's
>>one of the many lies she tells to cover her ass. She's
>>been busted for harassing people, many of them total
>>strangers, just because they won't go along with her
>>crazy thinking. She's a crazy liar and just because
>>you talked to her for a few minutes, that doesn't mean
>>you know her. Bebe is capable of being charming when
>>she wants to be (usually in brief moments) but there's
>>so much proof that she's a psycho bitch. Just read her
>>book, for starters.
>>
>>>I have to say
>>>that she was much nicer in the bathroom. She wasn't
>>>drinking either. She told me she was "sober" now and
>>>never wants to do anything again. THEN, heres the
>>>bomb. She said "I'M PREGNANT"!!! Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa????
>>>I couldn't believe it. Aren't you like too old to be
>>>pregnant? I said "how far along?" And she said "just
>a
>>>little over two months". I asked her if she had to
>use
>>>fertility drugs or help and she said "no, it was a
>>>complete surprise. I never would have guessed I could
>>>get pregnant at 49 years old but I did." I then said
>>>that she sure didn't look 49 and she said thats sweet
>>>and gave me a kiss on the cheek and said, "see ya,
>>>honey. Have a Merry Christmas." She did have that
>glow
>>>that woman have when they are preggers. She also was
>>>dressed beautifully.
>>
>>It's hard to tell what Bebe's definition of "sober" is
>>when in her book she says she doesn't do drugs but
>>then she also says in the same book she still likes to
>>smoke pot. So in Bebe's warped mind, marijuana isn't a
>>drug. How can anyone take her seriously?
>>
>>Bebe pregnant? Ha! That's so funny that you believe
>>that. It sounds like another one of her pathetic ploys
>>to get attention, just like she pretended she was
>>dying of leukemia and put her family through hell with
>>her disgusting lies. (It's all in her book.) Even when
>>she was in prime child-bearing age, she says she had
>>many miscarriages. So even if she is pregnant (which I
>>highly doubt) she probably won't give birth. If Bebe
>>gives birth to another child, I will gladly eat my
>>words. You should've asked her if it was Elvis
>>Costello's child just to see what her reaction would
>>be. Ha!
>>
>>>Thats my big story for the week. I didn't get to meet
>>>Liv but she and her fiance Roy were together. The
>>>whole crew was there but not Liv's Dad or his family.
>>>They all looked very cozy and family like.
>>>My question, are you all sure that Liv hates her and
>>>that she is crazy? She didn't seem crazy and she was
>>>really WITH her kid and her family. She IS a BITCH
>but
>>>also nice. I'm confused.
>>
>>No one on this message board has ever said Liv hates
>>her mother! Liv hasn't gotten along with Bebe at
>>times, but right now they have a pretty good
>>relationship, which shows what a kind-hearted person
>>Liv is to put up with a manipulative psycho like Bebe.
>>Liv won't publicly talk about Bebe's book (probably
>>because Liv is embarrassed about it) so maybe that's
>>why you think Liv hates her. Bebe has pissed off and
>>alienated SO MANY people. You should've asked her why
>>none of the celebrities she claims are her friends
>>were at her wedding to Jim, or why no rock star has
>>ever said they've written a song about her. I hope
>>that you're smart enough to figure out that just
>>because you briefly talk to someone once that doesn't
>>mean you really know that person. If you had to deal
>>with Bebe over long periods of time you wouldn't think
>>she's so nice.
>>
>>And her apology to you? That's called damage control.
>>Bebe is starting to realize why so many people hate
>>her and I guess she figured that she had to play nice
>>because she probably thinks you might be another
>>sucker who could buy her book, which she's been
>>obsessively hyping on the Internet. But as you saw for
>>yourself, her bitchiness (the real Bebe) still showed
>>anyway.
>
> I don't understand at all. I am not naive and I
>don't really know what to say. I am in shock to hear
>all this about Bebe Buell. Just about every celeb I've
>met is a bitch or a bit shallow. When I said she was a
>bitch I didn't mean she was not polite or social. She
>just seemed firm about her feelings. Bitchly so.
>
> Mia seemed to really love her. It didn't seem fake.
>Bebe's husband was really nice. He offered to get me a
>drink. He was normal. Nice to talk to. Pleasant.
>
> I didn't meet Liv but she did run over and give her
>mom and Mia a kiss. It was all normal and like a
>family. Liv was swarmed with photographers and the
>rest of the cast and the director. Bebe and her mom
>and Mia and some woman who was kind of chubby and the
>husband were very TOGETHER. Oh, I forgot. In the
>bathroom people were smoking everything. Bebe
>commented that it was making her feel sick. There was
>pot and she didn't touch it.
>
> I want to say that I have already read her book and
>HATED it. But she wasn't selling any books to me. She
>didn't even talk about it except when I asked her
>about the next one. I believe she is pregnant too. I
>could tell. People that say they are sick to get
>attention and love like what Bebe discribed in her
>book is common with clinical depression. But it is
>treatable. She didn't seem lacking in love and
>attention. Besides, being pregnant is not a disease.
>It isn't an attention getter when you already have a
>husband and a family that seem to love you no matter
>what.
>
> Maybe she didn't feel loved or secure with Coyote
>Shivers. Maybe she flipped out but got help and got
>better. This is years ago the thing with Coyote isn't
>it? I dunno but that seems koo koo. Prolly she did
>have a nervous breakdown but it really doesn't appear
>that her family is holding it against her. I liked
>that part of her book the most because it was prolly
>not easy for her to admit that.
>
> I'm not sticking up for her. I just think that some
>of this is tres old news and really not pertainable to
>now and her life now. BUT she is still a bitch! Clear
>and simple. But I think that the rest of this stuff is
>getting boring and should not be so harped on.
>
> Does anyone besides Coyote that post here actually
>know Bebe Buell well? I don't mean a passing meeting
>but really know her? Please be honest and is this all
>true what the other poster said? Thanks.

~ Sorry, Pia Pea Brain, but you sound a little star struck, no? People are always on their best behavior when they are in public. Of course there are people that post here that know her and have hung with her. Thats a stupid question. Me, I just take it all in.

The only thing I will agree with you about is the part about this being between Coyote and Bebe and everyone should not get pulled into the nasty war between them. I do also think that Coyote is getting a little carried away with getting back at her. You are right, it is boring and old fucking news.

People can get help and therapy and maybe she has changed. I don't know how Coyote would know what she is doing now because they are not friendly. That is the part of this that confuses even a cynic like me.

Bebe is remarried, Coyote is remarried but this still continues. It appears that it is worse on his side. He really HATES her guts. Let me tell you. I've had a talk or two with him about this and he is one pissed off cat.

There does come a point when he will have to just let it go. I don't like Bebe Buell much but i do think she has moved on with her life more than Coyote has. I know her husband Jim too and I just hope she doesn't mess with his head. He is the best. So damn good looking and a really nice guy. He loves her alot and I hope it works. They have been together a long time now so he knew what he was getting into.

I too have heard the pregnant rumor. She threw up twice at the premiere on Thursday I heard from my buddy who served drinks at the party. She didn't feel well.

Liv does love her mother and so do several people from the looks of things. I'm not one of those people but I do think it is time to move on with this topic. Why the fuck is Bebe so dicussed? Is it for the same reasons that Anna Nicole, Monica L., Winny, Courtney? All our favorite loons get the most hits. Why? It is not like a car wreck or a deformed person where you can't help but stare. We have a choice not to keep this going. I think it just gives her more fame really. All famous people have lots of people that hate them but it doesn't make them any less famous. I dun't know what I'm trying to say but I know what i mean, lol!

This Elvis shit is old news too. Everyone in New Yawk knows they made up about a year or so ago. They aren't best friends or anything but she is not ousted anymore from his camp. It is such a fucking shame that he and Cait called it quits. He is a little dog though. He fucks around. he is no saint. He loves New Yawk too. Always here. Always. Thats how they made up. Bebe was in some restaurant with Liv and Jim and Liv's boy, Roy and Elvis came in with Chalkie Davis. Glances were exchanged and then they all ended up sitting together and having some wine. The rumor is that that is where the amends were made. This is what happened. I'm sure. She is probably dying that he is available and she is married and pregnant, lol. Life is cruel sistas! He also gave her a really nice wedding gift. My girlfriend who was at the wedding, which was suppositly gorgeous and BIG, saw the huge carasel horse he got her. It was sitting at the reception for all to see. I heard it took a truck for her to get it home. I think thats nice and I don't think that Coyote realizes he is not up to date in whats going on with her. Thats the problem. He dwells in the past and the rest of the parties involved moved on. And i like Coyote too but he has lost his mind because of all this buellshit. He should let it go. Money isn't worth all this damage he must be doing to his health.

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