No, your post was not at all rude! I do hope you are feeling OK?? It wasn't our responses that did it-was it?? I never felt that John had perverted intentions of any sort towards Willie-never even gave it thought. But I agree with you an susiej, it was not selfless and he did it out of his love for Jamie. Me, I know that I would be jealous of anyone who I know was so in love with my DH. I find it odd that people would not understand Claire's jealousy-even if there is no chance of any relationship. But Jamie & John are friends and do share a specail bond through Willie. I would find it quite disconcerting to have this person in his life and raising his child. A son no less, in a time when I think we can agree more value was placed on sons. I always thought that got under Claire's skin a bit. But, that could be me projecting my own feelings again. I have a nasty habit of doing that! -- LJG Discussion board

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Date Posted: 13:47:06 02/04/08 Mon
Author: Rollaine
Subject: No, your post was not at all rude! I do hope you are feeling OK?? It wasn't our responses that did it-was it?? I never felt that John had perverted intentions of any sort towards Willie-never even gave it thought. But I agree with you an susiej, it was not selfless and he did it out of his love for Jamie. Me, I know that I would be jealous of anyone who I know was so in love with my DH. I find it odd that people would not understand Claire's jealousy-even if there is no chance of any relationship. But Jamie & John are friends and do share a specail bond through Willie. I would find it quite disconcerting to have this person in his life and raising his child. A son no less, in a time when I think we can agree more value was placed on sons. I always thought that got under Claire's skin a bit. But, that could be me projecting my own feelings again. I have a nasty habit of doing that!
In reply to: Oleander 's message, "First of all, thanks to both you and Rollaine for responding! Of course, I went long-->" on 13:31:15 02/04/08 Mon

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Well, I think we all do that to some degree- bring our own experiences/feelings to our reading and that's why we are such devoted readers, we get into it. That's why I obsess over Isobel so much more than everyone else. I have a friend who was married to a man for 16 years who after their second child basically stopped having sex with her- it happened once a year. He won't admit it but she now believes he's gay. Well, those years were very hard on her- she tried everything and ended up thinking it was her- she was so skinny, had gotten braces, plastic surgery- and she was very pretty to begin with. I thought of her and cringed when John told Jamie he "could do the deed." I had always liked John and I still do but that irked me. It just didn't seem fair to her. Not that we're always fair, but I don't see this action as somehow great and noble. Running out with his sword to protect Claire- that almost evened the score. *g* (NT) -- susiej (), 14:49:39 02/04/08 Mon
- Yes, I agree about John. I, too, always felt bad for Isobel. Kind of wondered what her story was. We really don't know do we? Unless you all have some insights on her from the LJ series (I have not read it). We don't see her side nor hear too much about or from her. Like your friend, I get the same feeling from Frank. I kind of cringe whenever I hear how honorable and great he is. My parents marriage ended due to my father's infidelity-it devasted her. My experience does not allow me to see Frank as a great guy. So yes, we do bring our own experiences to our reading and can feel things differently than what the author may intend. (NT) -- Rollaine, 16:08:52 02/04/08 Mon
- OK...I know this must sound awful, but please remind about the sword episode?? I don't re-read the books like you all do (yes, I know I should hang my head in shame :-), wish I had more time), but I really don't remember this! Thanks! (NT) -- Rollaine, 18:41:18 02/04/08 Mon
  - he's recovering from measles- a very dangerous disease in that time- and the big old German guy who scalped the Indian women comes to the house as Claire steps outside. John rushes out with his sword though he can barely stand. And then he speaks German so that the two of them can communicate and he tells Claire what the guy says. (NT) -- susiej, 07:45:10 02/05/08 Tue
    - OK, I remember now. I thought he grabbed a pistol...or maybe Claire grabbed the pistol? Neverless, I do recall it now. Thanks! (NT) -- Rollaine, 09:48:47 02/05/08 Tue

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