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• Oh drat! I thought I had chosen a nice orange colour in honor of the holiday...poop. (NT) -- Oleander, 05:21:42 10/31/07 Wed
  • (NT) -- fcf, 11:21:47 10/31/07 Wed
  
  

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• Ooh - dream sex, close your eyes and let it be . . . John had so much pretense to uphold in PM, going to the kittlehoosie with Quarry, feigning shock over the degenerate habits of men. After a long evening in the company of Caswell he certainly deserved to relax a bit. (NT) -- kgp, 05:37:37 10/31/07 Wed
  • Does this strike you at all as a sort of...defeated gesture? Like he is almost helpless to give in to what he needs? (NT) -- Oleander, 06:08:17 10/31/07 Wed
    • How on earth did I manage to italicize the whole board? (NT) -- Oleander, 06:09:09 10/31/07 Wed
      • Hey there...you probably didn't close the italics thingy at the end of your comment on the post...(I have done the same in the past). Since you cannot edit, the mods will probably fix it when they get wind of it. One of the benefits of signing in is having editing capabilities, which I sorely rely on when I post, since I am a natural-born tweaker....and thanks for this quote...it is verra telling of John's situation. (NT) -- teddie (), 06:24:21 10/31/07 Wed
  • Ewe, Caswell wanted John too, my memory might be imperfect but I remember how John thought to himself that if the price was a "private interview" with Richard Caswell half the English army and Olivia could go hang. Good thing John had the Hellfire Club story to trade instead. The thought John even having to touch Caswell alone is totally gross. (NT) -- Jane, 06:22:56 10/31/07 Wed
    • Now that is just gross! Funny, but gross. (NT) -- Oleander, 06:36:29 10/31/07 Wed
      • What sticks with me about Caswell is John's description of his pursed mouth reminding him of a dog's anus. Eeeeewwww (NT) -- kgp, 06:49:10 10/31/07 Wed
        • Testing (NT) -- fcf, 07:10:04 10/31/07 Wed
        • Oh man that is so gross, I had totally forgotten about that. What I remember more about that scene is that we meet Percy for the first time here. (NT) -- Oleander, 11:44:38 10/31/07 Wed
          • Along with Neil the C*nt. (NT) -- kgp, 12:09:43 10/31/07 Wed
            • Oh that's right. LMAO that made me laugh really hard. LOL. ON a more serious note, however- Grey's reactions in this scene, his words- a part of me does wonder if it was a sort of helplessness here- as if just being in Lavender House was a test for him- to see if he could stand his memories of the time after Hector's death, of who he used to be and who he was trying to be--> -- Oleander, 12:37:28 10/31/07 Wed
              • I felt that also, he needed to be anonymous about it, to deny that he was ever a regular part of the disolution of Lavendar House. It's a reckless youth that could have cost him his life and his family's honor and he would rather not be tempted by it again yet the young man (I wonder will he show up again?) tempts him when he is tired, drained, and surrounded by memories of George Everett and the brief pleasure of being as he is. did that make sense? (NT) -- kgp, 13:36:10 10/31/07 Wed
              • Makes perfect sense Karen I'm pretty sure we all did things when we were young that have continued to haunt us when we were older. The "what ifs" and the if MY kids ever did that I would KILL them! John was very lucky only getting sent to Ardsmuir when he was "disgraced" that whatever it was didn't become public knowledge and ruin not just him but his family as well. I am sure he felt he'd dodged a bullet. (NT) -- Jane, 14:41:02 10/31/07 Wed
                • Not only that, but maybe realized that life was still worth living eh? Since Ardsmuir, I think John structured his life so much more carefully. Liasons such as this were dangerous and could potentially be his down fall. And yet, I think that the pull of the flesh, the affirmation of touching another human being in an intimate way, is and was necessary for a man living in such secrecy. (NT) -- Oleander, 07:14:41 11/01/07 Thu
                  • And John is, maybe, 29 or 30 here? He ain't dead yet! Any healthy 30 year old is going to need some human contact. (NT) -- kgp, 08:55:00 11/01/07 Thu
                    • Especially one who feels completely separate from others around him based on some basic differences? (NT) -- Oleander, 10:55:22 11/01/07 Thu
                      • That's what finally drove Jamie to marry L*&^%$#re. (NT) -- kgp, 17:14:40 11/01/07 Thu