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Date Posted: 14:03:41 04/25/06 Tue
Author: Amanda
Subject: Discipline stuff...

I am in my junior block placement for student teaching, and I'm not sure what to do. Most students do not listen or pay attention, not even to the actual classroom teacher. My cooperating teacher spends half of the period just quieting the students. She has asked me to think about discipline that I could use in her classroom, but I don't even know where to start. Usually she just ignores the problem, that or doesn't see it, and tells the class to quiet down all the time. What do I do?!?! PLEASE HELP!!!

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[> Re: Discipline stuff... -- Bradley Jayne, 08:32:26 04/26/06 Wed [1]

Have you tried Dr. Owen's podium rule? Where the students stop talking when the conductor is on the podium. I think that you are put in an awkward situation, and I am sorry for that. But what you can do now is show the students that you are here to work, and let them know that music is a priviledge and if they do not want to be there, then they can leave. I think that it is important to point out the students who are doing a good job and praise them. Does your cooperating teacher have some a system of consequences set up for misbehavior? If so, does she follow through with it?
-Bradley


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[> Re: Discipline stuff... -- Honoree Pouly, 16:07:59 04/26/06 Wed [1]

This is a difficult situation to deal with. Does you cooperating teacher have a set of rules and consequences? If she does, is there some way that you could go over them with the students? In class Dr. Owen just discussed different teaching persona’s that tend to be able to maintain well disciplined classrooms. It may be a good idea to think about what these teaching personas are and adopt your own. You could be very strict, or find a way to achieve the students respect. Another thing you could do is approach the classroom teacher with your concern, so that you don’t step on any toes.


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[> Re: Discipline stuff... -- Dr. O., 08:37:29 05/01/06 Mon [1]

I think this is the single most difficult issue for student teachers, especially when the regular teacher doesn't maintain very good control of the classroom. As Honoree suggests, you do have to be careful about not stepping on toes. I suggest that you talk to the teacher AND to the students and say something like "Mr/Mrs. X is a more experienced teacher than I am. It's very important for me to have students paying attention and being on task as I learn more about teaching. Because of this, I must require quiet and good behavior in the class/rehearsal room, and I will enforce these rules and consequences to achieve it."
That might help, but the truth is that if students are already accustomed to being disruptive and unruly, it's REALLY difficult for a student teacher to settle them down. However, don't be afraid to enforce your own expectations. Students won't like it at first, but they will eventually adjust.
Dr. O.


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