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Date Posted: 13:00:32 04/25/05 Mon
Author: Rosemary
Subject: Re: Jealous Students
In reply to: Hayley 's message, "Jelous Students" on 09:14:20 04/25/05 Mon

I think that's more of a parent issue than a student issue. If the student really think he/she deserves the part, then maybe he/she should practice more to be better. Being better can be a (healthy and non-healthy)motivator. For parents, explain the same reasoning that you did to the student. If parents persist, get caller ID. Let them know that there's nothing more to discuss.

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[> Re: Jelous Students -- Ferris, 18:55:47 05/02/05 Mon [1]

I think that rejecting the student would only mke them want to work harder, to get the postion next year. A rejection can be very motivating. As for the parents I would think that suggesting a way to help thier child better thier skills would be the first step. Also put them in line by saying thier opinion and complaining is helping but hurting. The student should address the issue with the teacher themselves not rely on mommy and daddy to make it all better.


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[> [> Re: Jelous Students -- Lindsay, 08:49:21 05/03/05 Tue [1]

The problem is, you will have students who rely on Mommy and Daddy for everything, so you will have to learn to deal with it. Every situation will be slightly different, but I would say that yes, rejection can be a motivator, but it can also be an effective squelcher (to use a scientific term). You must be able to find positive ways to motivate the student without saying (or implying) to them that they're not good enough. I know some schools have a chair challenging system, where lower chairs can challenge the chairs above them and perhaps move up a chair if they perform well. I personally am not so sure about this system; however, you as the teacher will have to determine if the school's atmosphere will allow you to use that system effectively. If not, it may get out of control and competitiveness will again squelch any desire to continue out of the ones who are "not as good."


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[> [> [> Re: Jelous Students -- Dr. O., 11:42:15 05/04/05 Wed [1]

The Challenge system is a good one. If the problem is really severe, the director might want to solicit an outside person to listen to auditions or tapes, without knowing who is playing. Alternatively, it is possible to set up a system where the director listens to tapes without knowing in advance who is playing, or even hears live auditions/tryouts behind a screen to shield the identity of participants. Professional orchestras use this system; it protects against charges of bias very effectively.


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