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Date Posted: 07:38:24 02/27/06 Mon
Author: Sarah
Subject: Marching band for gym credit

Recently at my high school, gym and marching band joined together to make it possible to receive one of the required gym credits from participating in the marching band. Many athletic teams were not happy about this because they felt that the marching band did not do enough to be called a gym credit. I being a member of the marching band always felt that we did more than enough to be considered for a gym credit. Do you think it is fair to allow marching band to be considered for a gym credit?

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Molly, 13:29:08 02/27/06 Mon [1]

Of course it should! That's actually a good idea. In my high school the "real athletes" flat-out mocked the marching band (mostly out of fear due to a pep rally gone awry a couple years back in which, because of me, the star football player had to go in for a rabies shot...) for trying to call ourselves a "fall sport," but I don't see how it's not like a sport, and it's probably more intense than a high school gym class.... We competed, and I think I sweat more than any of the "real athletes," not to mention acquired probably more injuries. With other athletes talking down on the marching bands, they're just flaunting sheer ignorance, like so many others who have had things to say about music programs of other kinds in the schools. You'll get that.

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[> [> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Lynsey Cook, 08:15:07 02/05/08 Tue [1]

I think marching band could definitely work as a gym credit. I remember in high school going out in various weather conditions and working on shows until we couldn't work anymore. I think many times we are out in the same conditions and are doing the same amount of work as a lot of athletic people.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Kimberly, 17:17:17 02/28/06 Tue [1]

I think it's a great idea to have marching band count as a gym credit. Like gym, marching band was a semester course at my highschool, but unlike our gym classes, marching band got things accomplished. The PE courses at the school I came from were a joke. However, in marching band, we were outside in the mornings AND at our evening rehearsals (in the hot, in the cold, in the rain), we had band camp for 2 weeks out of the summer, and there was a lot of hard work and sweating going on. I think there's more physical work done in our marching band than in my own high school's gym classes. This is my opinion formed about my own high school; I can't judge other schools' programs as well.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Honoree Pouly, 21:52:26 03/01/06 Wed [1]

I think that giving Marching Band gym credit is a good idea. Although I think that the marching band should really deserve it. I know that my marching band did not do as much as many others and I don’t know that we would really have deserved gym credit. I do think that if the band does enough work to break a sweat, and because they do have extra practices and time put into it they should be able to get gym credit.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Erika, 11:41:19 03/10/06 Fri [1]

I agree with everyone else and believe that members of the marching band should receive gym credit because of their participation in the marching band. First of all I know how hard many marching bands work. My high school marching band had a month long camp in the summer which we called two-a-days. These practices required a great amount of energy and patience. Marching band required lots of time and you had to be willing to work hard in order to be a part of it. Marching band basically took over most of our summer and first semester of school. Yes, we all did it for fun but it required a lot of work, time, and energy. Also, compared to my gym classes in high school I learned so much more and worked so much harder in the marching band than I did in my gym classes. There were days when my gym teacher just did not feel like doing anything so we just had a study hall or listened to music. There was never a day in marching band when our director just felt like doing nothing and we had a free day. I believe that it is a good idea to have marching band members receive their gym credit for their participation in marching band.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Derek, 09:51:15 03/23/06 Thu [1]

You bring those skinny little soccer players, tennis players, or basketball players out on the feild and have them run around the field with percussion instruments, tubas, or bari saxes: See if THEY can do it -- and make sure they PLAY IN TUNE while playing every single note with perfect tone, pitch, rhythm, and style!!!!! (notice I never mentioned the football players...)

My point is simple. What we do on the feild during half time is at least ten and a half times more complicated than what the athletes are doing. Granted, it takes skill to run a touchdown, shoot a free-throw, or kick a ball across the field -- but we have to play various instruments, think about so many little details, AND march around the field without getting out of breath. Because of all the basic things we need to do just to survive out there on the field, we should at least get 1 credit hour towards gym class - maybe 7.

Musicians never get enough credit for marching in a band. I bet those jocks can't even tell you how to march around a corner without falling apart --- "Hey man, what's a straight line do when it gits around a corner....?"

Whether or not this will benefit the marching band is hard to say. If the school is small enough that it needs more people in the marching band, than it'll probably be a good idea to offer credit for marching band. If it's a bigger school, then I don't know why we'd even bother letting other people in just to get a gym credit out of the way.

Besides, I think people in the marching band should be concert band memebers only. If the school keeps it that way and just wants to give the music students extra gym credit, that's great; but I wouldn't necessarily open it up to the entire school.

Hope that helps... I think it's a great idea to get extra credit for marching, but I'd be a little hesitant opening it up to the entire student population for fear of getting people that aren't interested in marching or music because they just want the credit.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Phil, 06:36:44 03/28/06 Tue [1]

I totally agree. It definitely should be counted as a gym credit, especially if you are in a show style marching band. In the marching band I came from you had to be in shape to do everything that was expected of you, from high step marching, dancing, and swagger. I agree with derek though in which i don't think that random people can just jump in and try to play an instrument just to be in the marching band unless they are going to take lessons. I also suppose it is up to the head of the music department at the school if they are willing to take that risk because it sounds like that should be able to say yes or no to this.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Benjamin Lupo, 08:13:09 03/30/06 Thu [1]

While I have absolutely no personal marching band experience, I do believe it should get gym credit. Physical education classes are supposed to be geared towards increasing students awareness of their own bodies. Physical awareness is enhanced greatly by having to perform complex and coordinated movements. This teaches students how their body can be oriented in different situations, how to imitate the movements of other people, and a number of other important life-skills. Marching band certainly seems to be physical education from my vantage point.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Laura, 12:21:02 03/30/06 Thu [1]

I think giving gym credit for marching band is a great idea. I know a lot of kids in my high school never took gym seriously with me included. We did the same thing every year and to be honest it wasn't very well done. It doesn't set a very good example when your gym teachers are telling you to do something that they can't even do. I got a lot more out of marching band than I ever got out of a gym class. For one my high school was big on marching band and we didn't have a real "band camp" like most schools have. Instead, we had our band camp at our high school and instead of having it for a week in the middle of the summer where we would forget everything that we learned, we went from August 1st Monday-Friday 8 am-noon until school started at the end of August. We had a lot of drills to learn. During that time in the summer we would get our pre-game learned as well as probably our first 2 or 3 shows of the season. We also did high stepping which in itself should be counted as a gym credit. We had to do drills of high stepping non-stop. It was very active to say the least. However, I doubt my high school would even stop and think about making marching band a gym credit because they are so obsessed with sports that they would say it doesn't involve enough activity to be considered for gym credit.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Emma, 15:31:41 01/17/07 Wed [1]

At my High School I did not have to take gym because I was in marching band. I liked this a lot, gym was another period of the day just like band was which could have caused scheduling problems. To me band was just as athletic as other sports if not a little harder, because you have to march and play at the same time. But now i learned that my school is going back to requiring everyone to take gym which I do not agree with at all. Some students will not be able to do all the things they want in High School becuase of times the classes are offered. I think my school should go back to the old way because we get the same amount of exercise in band that we would in gym, and possibly learn more too.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Jayme Orians, 09:12:24 05/02/07 Wed [1]

I don't feel marching band should be considered a gym credit because it really isn't fair to sports unless they got gym credit for being in sports. Marching band is more of an outside event. I know my band practiced more outside of the school day and worked primarily on music during school. I just dont think its reasonable for marching band to get special treatment.

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[> [> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Jeremy B, 09:39:49 02/26/08 Tue [1]

But if marching band is actually a class like it was in my school then maybe it should be considered for a gym credit. Sports are an outside activity that does not earn credit, so comparing sports to marching band in relation to getting a gym credit is impossible. Its also hard to compare this idea because all schools are different.

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[> Re: Marching band for gym credit -- Ashley Diemer, 12:02:58 03/01/08 Sat [1]

Of course! According to the dictionary, gym is an athletic facility equipped for sports or physical training. The clue words are "or physical training". One aspect is sports, which marching band probably is not, but marching band is definately physical training. It takes effort to march, keep in step, and practice the moves. Marching band should be allowed to be a gym class because it is physical!

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