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Subject: Re: Rebuke hatred spread by homophobic bigot Ken-Calvinist


Author:
XOX
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Date Posted: 10:37:56 11/29/04 Mon
In reply to: Liberal 's message, "同性戀" on 21:44:08 03/24/04 Wed

This is an email forward by Ken.Calvinist (the hated filled homophobic bigot Evangelical Christian).

And here is the reaction from 大舊飯 (A reasonable poster)

For easy reference: Ken-Calvinist the bigot will be shortened to be just Ken-the-bigot and his hatred filled words in green.
大舊飯 words to rebuke this Ken-the-bigot will be in blue.


Ken-the-bigot: Dear brothers and sisters,
香港政府現在已經成立了部門﹐專門鼓勵市民接納同性戀行為﹐在電視廣告教育市民 ﹕不同種族和性傾向人士都應該享有平等的權利和待遇﹐市民不要歧視他們。 面對這類合理化同性戀行為的政府政策﹐我想在此作出幾點宣告﹕


大舊飯: 從以下分析可見,這個宣告只是對愚人講的。

Ken-the-bigot:上主耶穌是宇宙之主;
(God Jesus is the Lord of Universe)


大舊飯: 無關係,除非是奴才心態。

Ken-the-bigot:上主耶穌不喜悅同性戀行為﹔
(God Jesus dislikes Gay)


大舊飯:即使如此,站在基督徒立場,自己不做就行了,反正最後自有審判嘛。

Ken-the-bigot:我們的兒童需要一個健康的城市、健康的家;
(Our children need a healthy city and family)


大舊飯:若「健康」指生物學意義上的「健康」,這需要就「同性戀即不健康」提出科學證據, 不是「宣告」就可以的;如果不是,則這算是帶有歧視的抹黑行為。

Ken-the-bigot:愛不道德的事﹐就不是真愛;
(Immoral love is no True Love)


大舊飯: 這大概是從哥林多前書十三章的「愛是不喜歡不義」演變出來吧。但這經文根本不能推出 「愛不是喜歡不義」。當然,聖經亦有其他章節提及同性戀。但憑甚麼說同性戀不道德? 我不是說基督徒不可以採取這個標準,但新約是保羅說的,舊約是那個耶和華說的,若以 耶穌為中心,便自然會覺得這個看法牽強了。

Ken-the-bigot:基督徒反對同性戀行為﹐不就等於歧視同性戀者﹔
(Christian Opposition ≠ Discrimination)


大舊飯:(有必要加上「基督徒」三個字?)
這只是文字遊戲,意圖偷天換日。「反對」當然不等於「歧視」,「同性戀行為」亦不能與「同性戀者」恰當比對,此其一。同情了解下,「反對(同性戀,下略)行為」當然並不等於「歧視行為」,但問題是:基督教正正是**有**「歧視行為」,這點被轉移到阿富汗去了。


Ken-the-bigot:人權不能代表一切﹔
(Human Rights is not God)


大舊飯:(廢話-----只對「濫人權主義者」有一點點提醒作用而已。

Ken-the-bigot:香港是我家﹐我愛香港;
(We care the city)


大舊飯:(客氣地說,這毫不相干。不客氣地說,這是嚴重抹黑同性戀者的行為!
印象中,這是清潔運動的口號----同性戀者是垃圾?太過份了吧?這類基督徒,除了會語言暴力,還會甚麼?縱用許祟德的語氣來罵:可恥!也不為過。


Ken-the-bigot: 我希望如果基督徒有感動﹐我們應該一起上街靜坐﹐以和平安靜的方式﹐向這個城市宣講以上四個要點﹐這樣做不是要社會變得合乎我們基督徒的喜惡﹐而是想這個城市知道這些觀念﹐同時以此作為基督徒對日漸興盛的同性運動的公開表態,也希望看見我們這樣做 的基督徒,會有所反省,重新調整他們在地上生活的目的。另外,這樣走上街,我們的聲音被社會漠視是必然的結果,但我們的目的不是要左右社會左右政府政策,而是要告訴淫亂的社會:「上主耶穌是全人類的主,上主耶穌的律法不容許同性戀。」

大舊飯:(居然連末段都要罵社會淫亂,他們可有把反對同性戀的非基督徒放在眼在?就算讓一萬步, 按其思路當非基都是「罪人」好了,有甚麼理由把「反對同性戀的非基督徒」都罵淫亂?

作者還想以一句「我們的聲音被社會漠視是必然的結果」就輕輕帶過,不作反省,那就 不妨再用許氐語氣罵一遍:精神自慰!


Source: 李天命

I would think that one homophobic bigot Evangelical Christian who would advocate for hatred and try to prevent law from protecting homosexuals from harassement is not out of love or God but hatred.


Christians who follow Love instead of hatred should speak out against homophobic bigots whenever/wherever they raised their ugly-hatred-filled-bigot-heads.

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Re: Found that Liberal has confronted Ken-the-bigot-jerk beforeXOX14:44:57 11/29/04 Mon
Yes, the announcement was made by meKen_Reformed22:59:46 11/29/04 Mon
我覺得你也應承認“Anonymous”就是你 (NT)Ken_Reformed20:13:16 11/30/04 Tue


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