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Date Posted: 01:35:41 05/07/04 Fri
In reply to: Bystander 's message, "Re: 聖經無誤說的心理起源" on 11:42:41 05/06/04 Thu

thank you for your thoughtful input

>>無誤說的起源與問題:
>>1. 有人接受一本古書的一部份做自己的信仰.那部份是對的.
>2.
>>他接著認為全本書都是對的,並以"神的話語"來保護全書的真?>T
>>性.他如此作因為他需要保證自己接受為信仰的那部份肯定真?>T
>
>Here's my take on the thing: The bible (both OT and
>NT) was the tradition of a faith community, written
>from a faith (i.e. theological) perspective. It was
>handed down through the community as God's
>instructions to his people -- so the status "the word
>of God". The modern person may not trust it as the
>word of God, but I don't think it has gotten its
>status the way as you seem to have suggested in point
>2. For an evangelical who believes the bible is
>indeed the word of God, it is logical for her to see
>the bible as trustworthy -- for she believes God is
>trustworthy.

-let me clarify: the faith community you identified was made up of those "有人" (my "有人" include first century jews (for jews, the "古書" was OT) and christians)

-i tried also to answer why evangelicals believe the bible to be the word of God (the logic that follows this believe is not the subject of my discussion)

>>3.
>>於是對他來說那本書的另一部份,錯誤的部份,也是對的(那部?>?>>錯誤因為與現代發現相衝突).
>
>I think there is a deeper problem. It has to do not
>so much with the accuracy of the bible -- as important
>as it maybe --but with its interpretation. Regardless
>one's view of scripture, one still needs to interpret,
>where one is doomed to err at one point or another (or
>at many points for that matter). Inerrancy is often
>associated with a certain way of doing biblical
>interpretation which could ironically distort the
>message. Many times it could even give conclusions
>that are not warranted by the scripture itself but fit
>one's preconceived way of thinking which is out of
>touch with the modern mind (e.g six-day creation). To
>force a certain interpretation on scripture and call
>it the "inerrant word of God" is indeed foolish and
>arrogant. However, I don't think it unresaonable for
>an evangelical to hold to a high view of scripture per
>se.

-your view has been echoed here:
http://www.voy.com/174951/14.html

-denial of error in parts of the bible which obviously contradict modern scientific findings as a result of a high view of the bible is unreasonable

>
>>4. 為了保護全本書的真確性,他唯有否定現代發現.
>>5.
>>否定現代發現使他的思想與時代嚴重脫節,因為整個現代世界?>?>>運作都是建基於那些現代發現的.
>
>That is indeed tragic if a person's view of
>interpretation leads him to such an end. The tragic
>thing is that one equates interpretation of scripture
>as "the word of God" itself.

that is happening, conservatives equate their literal interpretation as the "word of god" itself and reject evolution, and argue for rejection of evolution by recklessly distorting it

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Re: 聖經無誤說的心理起源	Bystander	12:18:46 05/07/04 Fri
Re: 聖經無誤說的心理起源 -- Liberal, 02:16:47 05/10/04 Mon