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Date Posted: 08:33:14 11/24/08 Mon
Author: PM3
Subject: My friend got an email from Shelly
In reply to: wondering 's message, "Any word on Miss New Orleans yet?" on 16:19:26 11/23/08 Sun

My friend got an email from Shelly last week asking her to bring her daughter to compete. When she told me that I about died from laughter. I told her in no way should she allow her daughter to do that pageant. Thank goodness the child is already under contract and couldn't compete any way. I think she would have given them a good run for their money. I hope the new Miss New Orleans doesn't have an eye problem like the last Miss New Orleans. My friends daughter told me that she wouldn't have competed any way.

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Can someone list the names of everyone that competed? -- :), 09:15:53 11/24/08 Mon

C/I for list -- updated, 09:19:11 11/24/08 Mon

So this is the lady who is the expert on giving pageants. Saw her advertisements. Believe she has a DVD and book for sale? -- x, 09:44:19 11/24/08 Mon
- The Ms was rt even though I'd flip the alternates. Mrs WAY OFF. Olivia should have won, if not then Carla, Winner seems nice & it is not her fault that Shelly does not get good judges. Shelly's pageants are just that a Shelly Pageant. One can only assume the judges are going to know more than one contestant, have judged for Shelly at least twice before, maybe recruited a contestant, have been a director for a contestant or trained a contestant. The pageants will run long, be conducted in a very unprofessional manner and rarely turn out the way you would think they should. However this is something that is pretty well known & expected. Shelly is a nice person, she will do a bunch to help the contestants. You can call and ask for a discount, help finding attire, coaching, extra time to get your money in, etc. She is the only director with a Ms catagory for "big" titles so she will always get some competitors. -- She has all the good names, too bad DG sold NO to her and not SR or MH, 11:22:50 11/24/08 Mon
  - what do you mean by this? my friend was in ms just wonder what people though of her(The Ms was rt even though I'd flip the alternates) -- friend, 11:27:39 11/24/08 Mon
    - TM was right on, but I would have put JM in the pink as 1st and not second. -- HTH, 15:06:16 11/24/08 Mon
      - JMwas good she should have gotten 1st and not 2nd -- fan, 07:11:47 11/25/08 Tue
- Anything to make a buck. -- opinion, 13:10:32 11/24/08 Mon
  - what did you mean by "I'd flip the alternates" for the ms group my friend was #1 in the pink dress -- friend, 13:17:01 11/24/08 Mon
  - referring to book -- x, 13:25:32 11/24/08 Mon
    - Carla, Victoria, Olivia and Dawn Streak. Dawn won. Should have been either Carla or Olivia. They had that STRANGE judge there, what's his name, the one wit the terrible fake hair. I am sure he is the one that managed to pull these results off..... -- someone, 10:35:32 11/25/08 Tue
      - Name? -- ?, 22:20:21 11/25/08 Tue
        I think they are referring to Steve Walters -- with the hair, 08:37:27 11/26/08 Wed
      - Is he strange because he wears a hair replacement? Have you ever thought about the courage It takes for a person to face Cancer? Do you even know why he got the Pageantry Spirit Award? I am sure he could care less what you think about his hair. Mr. Steven is a fine person. He must like his hair, It makes him unique and he is just a sweet little man. How do you think that one judge can rig a pageant? It just doesn't happen that way. With interview counting 50% You have to understand, It is no longer a beauty pageant It is an Interview pageant. -- Deb Shannon, 09:57:35 11/26/08 Wed
        Sweet little man????? You should have heard some of the questions he was asking us TEEN girls.....give me a break. He wants to be known as a hard judge! And I'm sorry, but the hair piece is just bad!!! -- someone, 12:50:30 11/26/08 Wed
        Hmmm, the hard judge huh? were you in Interview??? If you were, you don't have very much integrity and NO integrity is worse than a bad rug! -- HCM, 13:45:11 11/26/08 Wed
        LMAO... You say Mr.Steven has bad hair, I saw the teen group, now there was some bad hair. -- Dolly Parton, 13:48:54 11/26/08 Wed
        Integrity not compromised, She states she was a teen contestant -- Please read, 14:01:02 11/26/08 Wed
        Steven Walters - nice guy C/I - Went through alot, give thanks for what you have and stop being so vindictive -- Pageantry is cruel in LA, 14:05:32 11/26/08 Wed
        I am a director and would like to give some sound advice, Never Judge a Judge. You NEVER know when they will judge you again. Instead of complaining that the judge is too hard, you might stop and think I was ill prepared for that Interview. Here I am in the 12th grade and only have the vocabulary of a 5th grader. Maybe my diction is poor. hmmm. Instead of being disrespectful and rude about this man, think about how you could Improve yourself. Obviously there were 3 contestants that didn't consider his questions hard, they were the winners. This man was just doing his job, and his hair good or bad isn't the issue here but your attitude is. -- Festival Director, 15:11:21 11/26/08 Wed
        What kind of questions? -- curious, 22:00:34 11/26/08 Wed
        For me, at first I thought the same thing but after thinking about it I realized that was probably a tactic he had to see if we could handle the pressure. He gave a few factsusing a huge vocabulary range on a topic and then asked the easy question. Pretty clever to me. I really thought I was doomed after hearing the opening facts. -- pageant junkie, 06:30:38 11/27/08 Thu
        He pretty much dominated the interview in my case, and gave a long statement then would ask a question almost that had nothing to do with what he said. It was like he was trying to impress me instead of me trying to impress them -- A little weided out, 17:35:21 11/27/08 Thu
        That is an old old judges technique to gave a statement and then as a question that didn't have anything to do with the first statement. You must have read him wrong he is not a person that trys to impress people. -- Known him since he judged me the first time, LOL he was in his 20s, 17:46:51 11/27/08 Thu
        There are some things that many people don't realize, Mr. Walters didn't dominate in Interviews. He was the head judge. As head judge It was his responsability to greet the contestant, ask them to have a seat, ask the first question, then If It got back around to his turn ask another question and finally when time was called, It was his responsability to tell the contestant that their time is up and before she leaves ask If there is anything that she would like to tell them before she goes. when the contestant finishes speaking, It is once again his responsability to thank her and wish her well in the pageant. -- Old Veteran Judge- Mr Walters is tough be he has been schooled the correct way and does the job of judging the right way., 20:42:02 11/27/08 Thu
        AMEN! -- Certified Judge, 11:02:40 11/28/08 Fri
        Clearly, no one is satisfied with any of the judges at prelims. Miss Baton Rouge pageant also has a lot of questionable actions and comments made by judges to contestants! So, is it the judges or the winners that angers you? -- Fat Cat, 05:48:57 12/02/08 Tue
        Contestants don't want the judges to do their jobs, they want to get everything candy coated, like in festival pageants. What's your favorite color kind of questions. MY GOD, These girls don't realize that they are actually in the running for Miss Universe. do you think they are going to get What;s your favorite color kind of questions? -- Truth, 12:56:32 12/02/08 Tue
        Ummm, I am not sure when the last time you did a festival pageant but they don't ask those kinds of questions. I think that people were upset that the Head judge, who only if you work for the pageant would you know he was the head judge, had been one of the contestant's directors in the past. That would be like Debbie Greene judging AL or Millie Harris judging Faith Good. So people are upset with the judges who cares, it is over with, if people want to fuss, let them. If they are not ready for state then they are not ready for state. You are not going to make everyone happy, but directors NEED to do their best at not asking judges who are too close to contestants to judge. -- That's all I am saying, 15:05:35 12/02/08 Tue
        I tell you I did La Honey Bee Festival Pageant and I can tell you that a favorite color question was not asked, I have done it twice and several other festival pageants and I can tell you that La Honeybee was the hardest interview I have ever done. I have even competed in a prelim for USA and nothing compared to honeybee -- contestant, 08:17:08 12/23/08 Tue

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