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Re: Fan support -- Stagophile, 10:51:17am 01/09/06 Mon, [1]
I think I speak for everybody here when I say that we greatly appreciate all your work on the Sixth Man Club. Unfortunately, it's a shame that it takes your efforts as an alumnus to make this happen absent very little support and assistance from the University. If fully supported, I believe the Sixth Man Club could be the foundation of a very effective development and alumni relations effort. In its current state, very few alumni are actually aware of the Sixth Man Club and it purpose. The only information absent the Sixth Man Club is buried at the bottom of Men's Basketball page. And interesting enough the Sixth Man Club page contains one of two links to the Lyons-Lademan Athletics Fund page on FairfieldStags.com and these links are broken...hmmmm!? The connection between the Sixth Man Club and the Lyons-Lademan Athletic Fund is not clear, if non-existent. I believe this state of affairs reflects a lost opportunity for Alumni Relations, Development, and Athletics and further reflects a disconnect amongst each of these departments.
Fairfield can learn a lot from the Quinnipiac model on how Alumni Relations, Development and Athletics can work together to maximize their effectiveness and to fully engage alumni in the support of Fairfield Athletics. Another great example of this model to consider is The Buckeye Club at Th Ohio State University. The interesting thing to note is that The Buckeye Club is run by an extensive development staff that reports to the Athletics Director.
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.collegesports.com/boosters/buckeyeclub/BC-front.html
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Re: Fan support -- Stagophile, 11:44:13am 01/09/06 Mon, [1]
Just as a way of making my suggestion more concrete, the following could have taken place in support of the Sixth Man Club event at the last basketball game...
1.) Alumni relations could have co-sponsored the event and assisted by sending a notification via email and snail mail to local alumni or by posting an event notification on the Fairfield.edu Website.
2.) Development could have co-sponsored the event and utilized the opportunity to solicit alumni donations or utilized the event as incentive reward for donating money to the Lyons-Lademan Athletic Fund in order to become a Sixth Man Club member.
3.) Athletics could have provided the Sixth Man Club a more prominent link on the front page of FairifeldStags.com and posted an event notification in the "Events" window on the front page. Further, the event could have been billed as an opportunity to meet with Coach Hobbie and discuss Fairfield basketball.
If each of the departments came together to support your Sixth Man Club events, I suspect your attendance figures would improve significantly and the University would see a more effective means to soliciting donations to the Lyons-Lademan Athletic Fund.
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Re: Fan support -- FU73, 02:48:54pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]
You're right, the Ohio State Buckeye Club is another great example of how the University through the Development Office, Athletics Department and Alumni Relations could be promoting Stag sports and Fairfield University. It's not just at the Ohio State level but Iona has the Goal Club, Siena has Saints Alive, Marist has Red Fox Club, Niagara has Purple and White even Sacred Heart has the Pioneer Club.
If the people who read and write into this forum can see a need for a vision and plan of action at Fairfield, then why isn't there one? Should it be the job of alumni to try to help solve the problem themselves or should the University through it's Alumni Office, Development and Athletics Department be addressing the problem and doing something about it?
Is the administration content with the way things are going along or do they see a need for change?
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Re: Fan support -- Bridgeport, 12:41:01pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]
sports fans
the 6th man club shoud be about fan intrest, fan attendence,
and finding a way to find more fans.
raising money ( donations ) would be a side effect, probably a large side effect but It should not be the primary goal.
( see paragraph 1 )
in its infinite wisdom, the administration disbanded a small group of people working toward accomplishing paragraph one.
the 6th man club is now a paper tiger composed of one hard working, dedicated, passionate, worker. the program administrator should give joe stag half his salary.
without joe stag there would be no board to post your thoughts about the program, no popcorn ball after weekend home games, no fall team picnik , and probably a ( further ) diminished attendence.
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Gene Doris should be evaluated... He is dropping the ball -- Antman, 07:35:09pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]
JoeStag you are doing a fine job. It was a pleasure to finally meet you Saturday. If anyone else wants to meet me, you know where to find me at the home games.
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Re: Gene Doris should be evaluated... He is dropping the ball -- FU73, 10:16:34pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]
Drop football, drop hockey, drop AH and drop the 6th Man Club. No one should be surprised at the way the AD works but maybe some day their vision and plan will be revealed?
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Re: Gene Doris should be evaluated... He is dropping the ball -- DitchMitch, 10:32:09pm 01/09/06 Mon, [1]
Let's not forget he also ADDED football, only to drop it 6 years later?
It's been pointed out how athletic departments at schools like Quinnipiac and Sacred Heart are taking significant steps forward. At the very best, Fairfield is stuck in neutral.
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The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- JoeStag, 07:12:32am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]
I have to disagree with a lot of the statements above.
- Athletics or Gene Doris did not drop Football or Hockey, it was a University decision, and IMO done hastily, and not communcated well. Doris did not want to drop football. First, he did not have the power to that, and secondly he had no motivations to do that.... He is the one who brought Football to Fairfield. Doris was the Messenger on this.... don't kill the messenger.
- Doris is a full supporter of the 6th Man Club. He did not drop it, it is not dropped. It executes still with a lot of events like any Alumni hoop club in the MAAC. Doris is the one who supported the start of the 6th Man after about 15 years of no fan club. The Members of the Stag 6th Man were removed after their 2 year committment, because of a demand by one strong Alumni that decided that the Stag 6th Man leadership committee needed to be changed. This person was not a member of the 6th Man, and he also recommended other Alumni to not join or monitarily support the Club. Since that time this individual or the university, neither recommended any replacements, nor has any Alumni stepped up to run a Booster club. Thats why I continue to keep th the 6th man functioning. Again, Gene Doris was the Messenger on this.... don't kill the messenger.
- This is not my "opinion" on the 6th man. These are facts as I sat in on these meetings and happenings..... I know what happened. Doris has been a full supporter of the Stag 6th man and still is, and assoc AD Pat Murphy has put in a lot of his time over and above his normal duties to help the 6th Man function and run a lot of events. The University has never fully suppoted the Stag 6th man. Anybody who wants to know more or take a leadership role in the Stag 6th man should contact me at bob_kulikowski@vwr.com
An Athletic department can only be as good as University support. Surely Athletics can do a lot better, and need to do better. But, the University is what drives a lot of decisions.
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Re: The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- FU73, 07:32:47am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]
I think it is frustration on the part of alumni and fans that Fairfield Athletics seems to be stuck and not moving forward while other schools are. It was hard to see football and hockey dropped, Homecoming almost non-existent, the lack of student spirit and AHY not living up to it's potential (712 at last night's women's game). If you say that Gene Doris is not the problem and only the messenger then I agree with you ..."don't kill the messenger". Sorry Gene.
Hopefully, Fr. von Arx will see the importance of Athletics and how it relates to the University, i's alumni and it's reputation.
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Re: The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- JoeStag, 07:49:38am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]
Agree we are not move forward as fast as we would like, or in some areas we are not moving forward at all.... sometimes even backwards. Direction is needed and plan. But an athletic plan cannot be created without a solid and approved University plan.
But I do know that the consultants report is supposed to be incorporated into the University Strategic plan. I know we want some change now, but I get the feeling that Fr. von Arx is working on that...... I hope.
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The 2 Major Mistakes -- DitchMitch, 08:36:49am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]
Here are, in my mind, the 2 major mistakes made in the Athletic Department in the last 10 years:
1) Starting a Football program: Whoever decided to axe football just 6 years after the program was started is saying the football program should not have been started in the first place. Sure, any student or alum is going to want a football team. But considering how much almost every school with a football team loses, why start one after so many years without a program? I would love to know what Fairfield thought it would gain with football, considering how much it knew the investment would be.
Unfortunately, the money that went to the football program likely could have been used to improve other facets of the athletic department. Perhaps ice hockey could have survived, for example.
2) AHY: The decision to have Fairfield's basketball teams playing at Harbor Yards is proving a major mistake. It's a beautiful arena, but it is not a fit for Fairfield basketball, outside of perhaps a game or two a year. It certainly has not helped recruiting-wise (for either the men or women), the average attendance of I'm guessing about 2500 - 3000 makes the arena cavernous and a poor home court advantage, and most important, the students are not there. The fact that the women would play a stand-alone game there makes me cringe.
I understand why the University has to try and put a positive spin on it, but if you are a Fairfield basketball fan, I'm not sure how you could make a case for AHY coming out as anything more than a net loss for Fairfield basketball.
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Re: The University dropped Football/Hockey, not Athletics -- Running Man, 09:52:59am 01/10/06 Tue, [1]
I know that there is a tendency among some posters to blame Doris for the condition of the athletic program at F.U., but the blame is misplaced. Every significant decision flows from the head honcho who uses those around him in an advisory capacity. Several years ago I talked with Doris about the state of Cross Country in particular and Fairfield sports in general and he described the situation as I have above. I believe that he would do more if he weren't hamstrung by the university.
Unfortunately Catholic universities live by the principle that the president calls the shots and if you don't like it, then that is your problem. I remember back in the 70s that F.U. conducted a survey among its alumni asking whether the respondents would prefer that the institution remain with a student body all male or become coed. The published results indicated that the alumni decided overwhelmingly that it should remain all male. The next year the school was coed. Obviously the university did not care one iota what the alumni thought. The president and the Board of Trustees ignored the survey results and did what they had intended doing. So it is the president whom we should praise or blame. Expect decisions on important aspects of university life, like athletics,to come from the president's office.
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