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Date Posted: 15:21:58 07/29/07 Sun
Author: EJetson
Subject: Re: Religion
In reply to: Tint 's message, "Religion" on 16:04:51 07/26/07 Thu

I've refrained from responding to this thread for a while because I really can't relate to what you're going through. Only one person that I'm close to has ever been addicted to drugs and/or alcohol, and I really didn't know him until about 2 months before he went to rehab and has been clean and sober for about 8 years now.

However, I can offer some opinions (which I've never been afraid to do) and you can take them however you want to. They may seem harsh, and maybe they are.


I've never really been able to comprehend the concept of how ANYONE can make the conscious choice to do drugs. Before doing them the first time, everyone knows how dangerous they are and how stupid it is to do them. Everyone.

I find it even harder to understand how someone who is intelligent, as I know that you are, even though we've never really had a personal discussion, can do them. What made you lose your mind so completely that you would think it was a good idea?

Now, as far as getting through it and moving on. I'm a skeptic like you when it comes to these "12 steps". They may work for some people, but I think that you might be one of them that it won't work for.

I think that probably for you, getting through this is going to be 100% up to you. Do you really hate yourself so much that you want to throw away your life? Do you really hate all of your family and friends so much that you don't care whether they want and need you in their lives? If the answer is yes, then I don't understand and any help offered probably won't do any good. My guess, though, is that the answer is "of course not", and that all by itself should be enough to make you want to stop.

You're intelligent enough to know that you made a mistake and need to fix it. You're intelligent enough to know that there are people who love you who will help you in any way that they can. Now, you have to be intelligent enough to know that being intelligent is a shitload more rewarding that being stupid.

Higher power? Who knows? I don't think you need one. I think you're intelligent enough to not repeat the stupidest mistake you've ever made, just on common sense.

I don't know if this will help or not. I don't claim to have any kind of knowledge of how to help others deal with things like this. But, if you want to talk to someone who won't just do it to give you a pep talk, my e-mail address is attached here.

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