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What happened at the pageant?
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Priceless moments directors are showing their true cheating colors. -- No name, 07:55:33 10/09/05 Sun [43]
I posted a post (FACTS) about the system on <a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.voy.com/94602/">http://www.voy.com/94602/</a> and within seconds it was deleted.
I then went back and posted again to find out that they have put the board on moderate, looks as if they are REALLY trying to hide the truth.
So now I will post on this board and this is all FACTS:
You can delete the truth but you can not run from it.
I will be there to get my money you owe my dd.
You are to scared to post your numbers and if you do they will be lies just to get people to come.
Once they are there you will be crying as to why no-one showed up, could it because you are a LIAR?????????
LY got her money last year and her nor her mom are coming back to this so called pageant, which by the way it is a scandal.
TY is not even doing h/m there because she knows the drama that goes with this scandal.
Most of the vendors are not even coming, only the ones that are nobody's in the real pageant world will be there.
How many deals and trade out's did you make this year?
Not enough huh? LMAO@U
Pay your past winners you rip off skanks.
LOL, You have to put the board on moderate so that people will not read the real truth.
BTW, You need to stop bashing kids before someone bashes your head.
Got it? Get it?

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- Subject: NOT J NOT K JUST CLEANNING UP THE BOARD A LITTLE SO THE EASIEST WAY TO DO IT IS TO PUT IT ON MODERATE BUT I WILL MAKE A COMMENT ON THIS. (NT) -- Author: POST YOUR NAME IF YOU ARE SO BRAVE., 08:09:39 10/09/05 Sun
  - Yes honey it is J&K trying to hide the truth. The typo errors show it and so do all the caps. Nice try though. Trying to clean up the board? What about the bashes against kids on here? J&K you are so BUSTED and such LIARS! (NT) -- Sign my name so you can run from me when you see me? NOT., 08:11:13 10/09/05 Sun
- Looks like someone knows these directors real well. (NT) -- No name, 11:10:58 10/09/05 Sun
- always drama with this one (NT) -- No name, 12:38:51 10/09/05 Sun
- Sounds to me like, someone is trying to keep others from going and having a good time! Maybe the person that posted this should have not changed the master score sheet! (NT) -- I guess the OP was mad cause she got caught cheating!, 13:19:47 10/09/05 Sun
  - Hey STUPID, The only one caught cheating was the directors. You have pushed that changing the score sheet story over board, lose it. You owe people money and you were also caught trading out clothes for wins, UGLY clothes at that. (NT) -- Pay your winners, stop your lies and maybe one day you will have a real pageant. The OP has put it best SKANK., 13:28:28 10/09/05 Sun
- Not the OP, but I know several who didn't get paid last year. BEWARE! (NT) -- No name, 14:21:04 10/09/05 Sun
  - This pageant did not pay their winners last year why would anyone attend (NT) -- No name, 15:32:22 10/09/05 Sun
- These are the kind of posts that should stay at the top so others can learn from the mistakes of their fellow pageant moms (NT) -- No name, 16:05:27 10/09/05 Sun
  - they are begging for people to attend. I can't believe they still owe people from last year (NT) -- No name, 16:07:57 10/09/05 Sun
    - Anyone they owe money should attend and get their money from them from last year. Anyone that attends this system is just asking for it. (NT) -- No name, 16:29:20 10/09/05 Sun
      - I know she owes several people from last year. LY was the only person that got paid (NT) -- No name, 16:50:22 10/09/05 Sun
        
        Are you sure this true? If so, why did only one child receive money and not all of the other children? (NT) -- No name, 05:08:36 10/12/05 Wed
      - I WILL be there to get my dd's money and I will NOT leave until I have ALL of it. (NT) -- I have already contacted the police dept. in Bristol and they have instructed me as to what to do., 16:55:29 10/09/05 Sun
        
        I think you are someone just trying to start trouble for these 2 directors! Just keep on bithching. Why do you wait until now to claim your money! (NT) -- If you are who I think you are, then why don't you pay people back for entering your photo contest for your pageant! You cancelled and did not pay people back!, 17:32:48 10/09/05 Sun
        
        Bitch I have been trying to claim my money since my dd won it. These 2 skank directors have dodged me, but they won't be able to dodge me when I show up with the police. I have spoken face to face with the police dept and they have informed me as to what to do the day of registration. (NT) -- Sorry Charlie, I have never held a photo contest, so stop trying to pass your cheating lying ways off on someone else Kim and Janice., 19:07:37 10/09/05 Sun
        
        I will be there with you collecting my dd's money as well. They have promised it to me for close to a year now and it has been nothing but lies. (NT) -- Looks like there will be several moms there getting their dd's past winnings that are owed to them., 19:24:54 10/09/05 Sun
        
        Count me in also. (NT) -- No name, 06:07:20 10/10/05 Mon
        
        the same people on this board will have their kids in the pageant. Come on parents don't you have any thing else better to do then to sit on your butt (NT) -- No name, 09:19:03 10/10/05 Mon
        
        I think it is unfortunate that you don't have your money, but if you really contacted the police, they would have advised you that this is a civil matter and you need to file a small claims case. (NT) -- No name, 16:08:29 10/10/05 Mon
        FYI- If the police instructed you to go to the pageant and collect your money and their is an altercation- these directors can sue you and the police department as well. PD will never tell you to approach anyone they instruct you to take it to small claims. (NT) -- No name, 09:17:59 10/13/05 Thu
- You people sound so stupid! Go back and read your posts. c/i -- No name, 10:01:14 10/10/05 Mon
  - who is attending this one? I am worried since people say she didn't pay winners last year (NT) -- No name, 10:42:34 10/10/05 Mon
  - Go and get your easy win, probably only way your child can win. Read this STUPID, Cheat, directors did not pay money..Liars, directors said we would be paid.. Traded out wins.. directors and someone else cheated others. Bottom line.. this pageant is a joke and the directors are awful. (NT) -- No name, 12:59:52 10/10/05 Mon
    - I have been to several of PM pageants, and the winners have been paid! These directors seem to be nice and care for the children! (NT) -- I have seen other pageants way worse with directors that care about nothing but money & fixed wins!, 15:13:33 10/10/05 Mon
- Are they going to keep the Virginia board moderated untill after the pageant? Looks like the only thing that got cleaned was the neg. post under their banner, same one posted here. All the other bashing is still on there! (NT) -- No name, 12:13:06 10/10/05 Mon
  - Isn't it funny how that board went on moderate real fast when someone posted FACTS about Ole Kim and Janice. Either they have that board or one of their close friends do. Sorry to bust your bubble J&K, but there are many other boards to expose your lying and cheating ass's. (NT) -- Kim and Janice both are the biggest bashers and liars. BEWARE!!!!!!!!!!!, 13:03:54 10/10/05 Mon
- Will these moms really show up to get therie money, or trying to scare people away from this pageant!! People will see if they are telling truth! seem like pm is th place to be!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 14:55:58 10/10/05 Mon
  - We will be at Priceless moments. Can't wait to see who really shows up to claim their money! (NT) -- At least we will know who the basher is on the PINK boards!, 15:10:01 10/10/05 Mon
    - Bashers? You mean mothers wanting to collect their money for their dd's. If you call that bashing, I call you stupid. (NT) -- I will be there to get my child's money. Want to meet me somewhere so I can introduce myself to you?, 15:35:06 10/10/05 Mon
      - No, You are the stupid one since you don't have your money! You must have written a check for entry then stopped payment! (NT) -- These 2 directors have learned a lot since last year and are trying to have a good system!, 18:47:39 10/10/05 Mon
- We're going!! We're going to have a good time, get some stage time in and have fun--we're paying for the experience---I hope it's FUN!! (NT) -- No name, 19:02:11 10/10/05 Mon
  - who is attending (NT) -- No name, 19:37:28 10/10/05 Mon
- I know who the grand will be this year. Lets see it was MC the 1st year, LY last year. Who do you think this year. I already know. (NT) -- No name, 19:41:32 10/10/05 Mon
  - who miss know it all?????? (NT) -- No name, 20:55:46 10/10/05 Mon
  - Stupid ass get your facts straight it was Hillary F that won the grand the first year lmaoau BITC% (NT) -- No name, 11:13:33 10/11/05 Tue
  - The grand will be either Candace Foster or Jessica Lucas. Friends to the end. Hi-di-ho HAHAHAHA! (NT) -- No name, 17:04:08 10/11/05 Tue
    - I don't appreciate you posting my DD's name on this pink board! Yes, we go to PM pageants to compete. My DD does not win grand at all of their pageants either! If she does, then she worked for it and deserved it! (NT) -- My DD JL works hard and practices and loves to compete. She has begged to go to J&K's pageants. Maybe it is because they treat the kids great!, 18:07:56 10/11/05 Tue
    - HEY SMART ASS CANDACE ISNT EVEN GOING DD SHUT THE HELL UP BUSTED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (NT) -- No name, 22:59:03 10/11/05 Tue
    - Hey didnt your kid win grand recently at one of their pageants???HMMMMM...... (NT) -- No name, 23:00:34 10/11/05 Tue
      - Yes, she got a grand at one of the prelims. She deserved it too! She works hard for her achievements! (NT) -- So leave her alone and grow up!, 04:40:40 10/12/05 Wed
      - Hmmmmmm. I guess that you think... that every kid that wins a Grand Supreme title, it must be FIXED! (NT) -- Are you her stalker now?, 17:38:03 10/12/05 Wed
Glamour Dolls - More winners -- No name, 13:18:50 10/09/05 Sun [38]
Gand Supremes

Chloe Kasey
Shelby Bryan
Lauren Yee
Maggie Hall

Chloe B won Beauty/Photo
Hannah S got Mini supreme Ashley D got Mini Supreme

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- Ashley D Mini supreme (NT) -- No name, 13:20:19 10/09/05 Sun
- WHO WON THE DOGGIE GRAND? (NT) -- No name, 13:26:37 10/09/05 Sun
- Joanna Whitener - beauty; Athena Kulb - beauty (NT) -- No name, 13:47:49 10/09/05 Sun
  - Athena Kulb DID NOT GET BEAUTY! She got overall portfolio! (NT) -- No name, 22:37:13 10/09/05 Sun
- Hannah Spigler did not get mini supreme. She got the Level 3 4-8 grand (NT) -- No name, 13:50:06 10/09/05 Sun
  - Who was the level 2 4-8 grand? (NT) -- No name, 14:53:54 10/09/05 Sun
    - Level 2 4-8 Grand was Darby Thomas (NT) -- No name, 15:28:03 10/09/05 Sun
      - Ashley Kravitz got Level II Grand Supreme 9-UP (NT) -- No name, 22:38:48 10/09/05 Sun
  - One of Tina Marshalls and Michael Booths big money clients. (NT) -- No name, 07:11:27 10/12/05 Wed
- Who competed in the 0-3? (NT) -- No name, 13:50:39 10/09/05 Sun
  - CK, BR, PRS who else? (NT) -- No name, 13:54:12 10/09/05 Sun
- Brianna Butler won 7-up model supreme (NT) -- No name, 13:54:50 10/09/05 Sun
- Level 1 4-8 grand - sidney white (NT) -- No name, 13:56:06 10/09/05 Sun
  - Alicia Gustaferro won the Level1 9-up grand supreme (NT) -- No name, 13:59:41 10/09/05 Sun
- Payton Ruth won division supreme and Isabella Moore won division beauty for the 3yr group (NT) -- No name, 14:19:38 10/09/05 Sun
  - Did things fall the way the should have? (NT) -- No name, 14:22:14 10/09/05 Sun
  - Who won 0-3 level 1 grand? (NT) -- No name, 14:24:21 10/09/05 Sun
  - fell kind of weird since PRS won almost all the events in the 3's. BR didn't place high in any of the events. (NT) -- Mom in the 4's, 23:10:00 10/09/05 Sun
- Well Whaddya know? Booth strikes again. This was a little too obvious dontcha think? (NT) -- No name, 14:48:55 10/09/05 Sun
  - ck and ly are not even his girls (NT) -- No name, 14:53:30 10/09/05 Sun
    - ck's mom is in with tmallouky mb's bud (NT) -- No name, 16:13:25 10/09/05 Sun
      - and ty is in with td and mb (NT) -- No name, 16:15:23 10/09/05 Sun
        
        So what?? They both still win almost EVERYWHERE!! Move on please!! (NT) -- No name, 07:20:38 10/10/05 Mon
- There were 49 here. The downfall of this pageant comes down on T/M themselves! (NT) -- No name, 15:06:52 10/09/05 Sun
  - You know what, it's not just them whose "kingdom" is falling down.. More and More moms are waking up to the fact that their child will NEVER be the BEST...they wil NEVER "beat" certain girls, and it's not because they don't deserve to, we all know it's because of "price" these dishonest directors would have to pay (NT) -- No name, 15:08:19 10/09/05 Sun
    - how much did this pageant cost to enter (NT) -- No name, 15:24:14 10/09/05 Sun
      - they didn't have alot because the pageant is over 1000 to enter and everyone knows the COI that is involved. Anyone would be crazy to attend this one (NT) -- No name, 15:33:46 10/09/05 Sun
  - I heard there were only 25 (NT) -- No name, 16:04:38 10/09/05 Sun
    - unless you are in their so called clique Glamour Dolls is not one to attend. Just look at the winners (NT) -- No name, 16:10:31 10/09/05 Sun
      - glad we stayed at home (NT) -- No name, 16:25:47 10/09/05 Sun
        
        I can't believe directors woulld cheat like they did at this one (NT) -- No name, 19:04:44 10/09/05 Sun
    - I heard 25 also and the list reflects that. Would someone who was really there please tell us what the true turnout for this one was? Thank you! (NT) -- No name, 05:22:49 10/12/05 Wed
      - All the winners were either Tina Marshall big money clients or Michael Booth. Or good friends with them. WAKE UP CALL PEOPLE!!!! (NT) -- No name, 07:18:29 10/12/05 Wed
- CHLOE KASEY DERSERVED HER WIN, NOT MATTER WHO SHE KNOWS THAT WAS A FAIR CALL!! (NT) -- MOM IN THE 0-3 WHO WAS HAPPY FOR CHLOE!, 08:04:12 10/12/05 Wed
  - PRS and BR blew her away. (NT) -- No name, 10:08:57 10/12/05 Wed
    - BR in no way came close to CK at GD. PRS would have been a close second, but I agree with the OP, that CK deserved it this time. (NT) -- Someone who watched all of 0-3, 05:22:22 10/13/05 Thu
      - I'm sorry but CK was talking ons tage in 2 events. She is a complete doll baby-- but I don't think she deserved it this time. Talking in beauty is a big no-no. (NT) -- No name, 06:07:36 10/13/05 Thu
I was watching the show last night Living Dolls The making of a child beauty queen! -- What ever happened to that SWAN girl,,? Pageants have changed ALOT since that, 11:42:26 10/10/05 Mon [22]
show was made!! Has anyone watched it lately?

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- Wasn't Shane King in it Also and MB? (NT) -- No name, 11:46:24 10/10/05 Mon
- Swan's mother dropped dead of a massive heart attack in the middle of Swan's big comeback. Swan went to live with father in Alaska, Father died last summer. Oldest Sister trying to get custody of Swan and brother. Shane and Michael split after their house burned to the ground. (NT) -- No name, 12:16:52 10/10/05 Mon
- OMG ARE YOU SERIOUS?? (NT) -- No name, 12:40:21 10/10/05 Mon
- THAT IS JUST SAD!! I AM A NEWBIE AND JUST WATCHED THE VIDEO (NT) -- FOR THE FIRST TIME .., 12:42:55 10/10/05 Mon
- What channel did it come on? (NT) -- No name, 13:02:26 10/10/05 Mon
- Usually it comes on HBO (NT) -- No name, 13:20:31 10/10/05 Mon
- HOW ABOUT MB DAUGHTER WERE IS SHE NOW? (NT) -- No name, 13:39:38 10/10/05 Mon
- Wow-Newbie here too-why do you think the pageants nowadays are so much different? Seem pretty much the same to me except the clothes have changed so much? (NT) -- No name, 17:55:29 10/10/05 Mon
- You are right cloths and h/m are all that has really changed .. (NT) -- Thats what I was meaning! The H/M was way different!, 18:07:22 10/10/05 Mon
- http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1589/is_2001_May_22/ai_74511561 http://gaytoday.badpuppy.com/garchive/entertain/052101en.htm -- No name, 18:18:34 10/10/05 Mon
  - Yes-I have read these and what is funny is that the first time I watched this documentary I was appalled-now that I am "into" pageants it all seems somewhat normal-strange how perspectives can change?? (NT) -- No name, 19:03:48 10/10/05 Mon
    - JW from KY was on the show. (NT) -- No name, 19:25:05 10/10/05 Mon
- They should make a new documentary about pageants today. Since they have changed so much. (NT) -- No name, 05:51:39 10/11/05 Tue
  - Yes it can star Emily T, Regan L and Emily P. Very disfunctional and entertaining. (NT) -- No name, 08:33:44 10/11/05 Tue
  - I think it would be fun to see all the big name kids in that documentary. To see how much money and time they spend on pageants (NT) -- No name, 09:06:03 10/11/05 Tue
    - And the star of the show should be Lauren Y. (NT) -- No name, 11:58:12 10/11/05 Tue
      - And T Yee would be a fool to let a television crew follow her around . Can you imagine, the IRS nightmare that would be. (NT) -- No name, 15:13:44 10/11/05 Tue
        
        LOL...very true! (NT) -- No name, 18:53:49 10/11/05 Tue
- There is a new documentary coming out at the end of the year. It is by VH1 and it will be called Little Beauties. Watch for it. (NT) -- No name, 21:17:42 10/11/05 Tue
  - it features kennedy azubike, joanna whitner, brooklin beccue and others. troy & michael are the two primary adults in it. (NT) -- No name, 21:19:17 10/11/05 Tue
    - What happened to the film crew that was following Charlsey C around? (NT) -- No name, 20:18:51 10/12/05 Wed
We have just started back doing pageants in NC from taking a two year break and was wondering if Hannah Billington and Taylor Stansfield are still doing pageants. -- No name, 14:56:19 10/12/05 Wed [2]
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- No ma'am. (NT) -- No name, 16:14:50 10/12/05 Wed
Which photographer would you use? BILLY THE KID, DANA MAJOR, OR KHRISTY KITTS -- No name, 19:13:27 10/09/05 Sun [22]
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- None of those 3 (NT) -- No name, 19:20:23 10/09/05 Sun
  - why? I heard Dana Major was doing great work (NT) -- No name, 19:22:13 10/09/05 Sun
    - Dana's work is awful as well as her manners. My friend has been waiting over 10 weeks for her pictures. Dana will not reply to any of her emails and my friend paid Dana in full. I am sure Dana does not want to see a jail cell again, this would be the 5th time within 2 years. (NT) -- Dana is not a good photographer and her pictures are awful., 19:30:03 10/09/05 Sun
      - DANA PHOTOS MUST HAVE BEAT YOU KIDS PHOTOS!HER PERSONAL LIFE IS HER OWN AS EVERYONE ELSE IS. (NT) -- HER PHOTOS ROCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, 20:49:23 10/09/05 Sun
      - Dana is one of the most down to earth, friendly people we have met in pageantry. She returns phone calls and delivers promptly. I can't say that about ANY other photographer we have shot with! (NT) -- And yes, we have shot w/ several! We LOVE our Dana pics, too!, 05:39:40 10/10/05 Mon
- Personally, I would use Kapture Kashay, Toni O, or Clayton's Cuties. But of the three you mentioned, I guess I would go with Kitts (NT) -- No name, 19:22:32 10/09/05 Sun
  - we shot with clayton cuties and our photos were awful. I would use Billy the Kid. Kapture Kashay is getting pictures out when they are promised. (NT) -- No name, 19:27:24 10/09/05 Sun
    - would not shoot with Kitts her photos are blurry and the retouching is awful. Go with Dana she is doing great work. We just got our photos and they are beautiful (NT) -- No name, 19:29:39 10/09/05 Sun
      - BTK is doing great work. We got our photos when they were promised. We are going to shoot with Dana in December and looking forward to it. (NT) -- No name, 19:32:29 10/09/05 Sun
      - If you think Dana's work is great, you must not know what great work is. Dana's work is crappy and she is not getting her pictures out on time. (NT) -- No name, 19:32:50 10/09/05 Sun
        
        Our Dana photos have won at nationals and online and they are beautiful. We got our photos from her faster then any other photographer (NT) -- No name, 19:35:08 10/09/05 Sun
        
        do not use kitts our photos are awful and she will not have them fixed (NT) -- No name, 20:08:09 10/09/05 Sun
        
        okay billy- time to get off the board- you are showing your true colors again! (NT) -- No name, 06:11:26 10/10/05 Mon
- I would hope that BTK can get photos out on time. What does he shoot, 2 or 3 kids a month? His work is just not what it once was. (NT) -- No name, 08:25:30 10/10/05 Mon
  - we got our Billy photos and they are great. Dana is doing work also. I don't like the retouching on Kitts photos. They look painted (NT) -- No name, 10:43:34 10/10/05 Mon
  - Yeah and I hear he's bouncing between retouchers again... (NT) -- No name, 11:57:26 10/10/05 Mon
- I think he bounces everything around. (NT) -- No name, 12:06:56 10/10/05 Mon
  - what abouts kitts her photos seem to be painted more then others (NT) -- No name, 16:36:19 10/10/05 Mon
    - Dana is doing great work her proofs are beautiful (NT) -- No name, 19:39:17 10/10/05 Mon
      - If you think so but they are blurry in a ajudges point of view,Ive had them scoed low now at TDS and GD,said photos are poor in quality (NT) -- No name, 01:00:53 10/11/05 Tue
- PHOTOGRAPHERS WHO ARE TRIED AND TRUE: Donna M., Toni O., Troy D. and Jennifer P. Great work, dependable and good with the children. Good luck and happy shooting! (NT) -- No name, 05:14:40 10/12/05 Wed
A major part of the pageant is the hotel. It can give a certain class to a pageant, and it can take it away. So, what systems make sure to give you a great place to compete? And what systems were at the bad hotels this year? -- No name, 20:22:31 10/10/05 Mon [4]
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- no one cares. No matter what the hotel pageant people will bitch. Directors can never make everyone happy. Seems like you are just trying to find something to bash over. (NT) -- No name, 20:45:22 10/10/05 Mon
  - No bash here. We enjoy pageants at good hotels and want to know what pageants have their events at good hotels. For example, AMBG was in a wonderful location. There was so much to do in the Smokey Mountains and I like that the director thought about the children's happiness away from the stage. Now, what other sytems use great locations and great hotels? And try not to be so sensitive,lol! (NT) -- No name, 07:48:39 10/11/05 Tue
    - Not a bash but the AMBG hotel was only nice if you were lucky enough to get a room in the same building as the pageant. If you had to walk from one of the others, it wasn't too good. Think of what it would have been like to have had to walk between buildings IN THE RAIN with no covered walkways. (NT) -- JMHO, 20:36:22 10/11/05 Tue
A MESSAGE FOR ALL OF YOU THAT FEEL THE NATIONAL PAGEANTS ARE CHEATS. -- public service message, 14:17:00 10/11/05 Tue [4]
Watch where you go. If you look on their vendors list make sure Michael Booth, Alisha Miller, Tina Marshall. Nikki Burton are not listed and you should be pretty safe to go.There are many pageants to attend besides the ones they are going to. Save yourself a lot of pain and heartache by avoiding the places they are at. They don't go without expecting their given wins. They imtimidate the directors by threatening to ruin their business if they don't cater to them. This has been going on for years now and is getting worse. They are ruining the pageant world and many of you are aware of their crooked ways.

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- that is just BULLSHIT, bet you are a director who would like some of them to attend and they won't do your rinky dinky pageant (NT) -- No name, 15:57:19 10/11/05 Tue
  - Uh, making pageants rinky dink is their specialty. Crown Jewel is a prime example. That pageant had 50 kids until people found out Alisha and Nikki would be there. Now they'll be lucky to get 20 and they'll all be tko's. (NT) -- No name, 16:52:21 10/11/05 Tue
- I know at least 3 pageants they will never have control over. DDA, NES and UMMI (NT) -- No name, 16:12:47 10/11/05 Tue
Why lord WHY!! http://www.angelfire.com/stars5/rrglitz/ -- No name, 00:17:07 10/11/05 Tue [7]
<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.angelfire.com/stars5/rrglitz/">http://www.angelfire.com/stars5/rrglitz/</a>

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- Well that was a frightening visit to a retoucher gone mad. WOW (NT) -- No name, 00:59:45 10/11/05 Tue
- The one that scares me the most is "Miss" Jasymn 6 months old (NT) -- No name, 04:14:20 10/11/05 Tue
- what the hell kinda contest is THAT??? (NT) -- No name, 04:44:16 10/11/05 Tue
- OMG! TALK ABOUT HALLOWEEN HORROR! THESE POOR KIDS LOOK LIKE ALIENS AFTER THE RETOUCHING! (NT) -- No name, 05:52:02 10/11/05 Tue
- BAD!!!! http://www.angelfire.com/stars6/enhancements/glitz.html (NT) -- No name, 05:53:57 10/11/05 Tue
- You should warn us before sending somewhere like that. That was really scary. It was like peering into the depths of hell. I almost peed my pants. (NT) -- No name, 14:12:48 10/11/05 Tue
How do you clean a flipper?? -- No name, 05:54:18 10/11/05 Tue [2]
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- I just washed my dd's with water and a toothbrush. She doesn't eat with it, so I don't use toothpaste or anything. Just a toothbrush to gently cleanse the fixadent residue. (NT) -- No name, 14:10:05 10/11/05 Tue
anyone know about mad k? -- No name, 10:23:28 10/11/05 Tue [2]
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- stay away if you are smart. pageants are so unorganized and they use the same judges over and over and the same kids win. (NT) -- No name, 13:48:51 10/11/05 Tue
Who is going to SBB? -- No name, 10:35:21 10/11/05 Tue [1]
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Is Shane King coaching again?I saw he was haveing a photo shoot with jennifer pentagar.when did he start doing h&m.i thought he was a coach -- No name, 16:46:03 10/09/05 Sun [7]
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- I would like for him to coach. He has really straightened up and is very nice. (NT) -- No name, 19:21:11 10/09/05 Sun
- I wish they were shooting somewhere other than Las Vegas! (NT) -- No name, 14:48:56 10/10/05 Mon
  - They are booking more shoots...they are shooting at AGG! (NT) -- No name, 16:16:42 10/10/05 Mon
    - I heard they were attending Hearts and Crowns also. If they are we are going to book with them. (NT) -- No name, 19:45:08 10/10/05 Mon
- DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW SHANE'S LITTLE GIRL DID AT NES? (NT) -- No name, 08:20:13 10/11/05 Tue
  - do you mean Glamour Dolls? 0-3 level 1 grand (NT) -- No name, 09:35:48 10/11/05 Tue
Let's team up some adult pair theat are sure to be terrible when they get together.... I'll start! -- No name, 14:47:25 10/10/05 Mon [10]
Micheal Booth and Tina Marshall
Pam Hall and Pam Schmike
Tammy Purcell and Maria Perez

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- Alisha & Nikki (NT) -- No name, 15:31:56 10/10/05 Mon
  - Wondering what the deal is with these two? I was referred to them for coaching??? (NT) -- No name, 17:49:05 10/10/05 Mon
    - Don't walk...run as fast as you can in the other direction. They are two of the most vile people I know. (NT) -- No name, 18:03:35 10/10/05 Mon
- Don't know Alisha(heard bad things though) As far as NB - RUN RUN RUN, believe me you will be happy later. (NT) -- No name, 18:45:34 10/10/05 Mon
  - Why? What has happened with these two? I am looking for a coach in Virginia? anyone you could recommend? (NT) -- No name, 18:59:43 10/10/05 Mon
    - NB has bad business practices and drops clients at the blink of an eye. And why would you expose your child to cig smoke? She is a gossip, as soon as you leave the room she is gossip to the next mom about you. (NT) -- No name, 19:18:48 10/10/05 Mon
      - Now days noone likes anyone everyone loves to bash bash bash the vendors but these 2 are great and make a great team they have a lot of fun and love their kids. (NT) -- Not once has either one of them done anything wrong to me or my child all good from these girls! WTG, 19:39:04 10/10/05 Mon
      - Believe me NB has gossip sickness, and I can guarantee that this is one leopard that does not change her spots. She will gossip about you to the next pageant mom in the room. She always has and always will. (NT) -- No name, 08:37:19 10/11/05 Tue
        
        Last time I checked, all women have gossip sickness. Hence, THE BOARDS. Do you really want to cast the first stone??? (NT) -- No name, 08:45:19 10/11/05 Tue
don't miss Wife Swap tonight with the KY pageant Mom -- No name, 14:52:46 10/10/05 Mon [10]
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- what channel is that on? (NT) -- No name, 16:08:43 10/10/05 Mon
- ABC, this looks sooooooo good it just started. (NT) -- No name, 17:11:26 10/10/05 Mon
  - So far it is funny! I can't wait to see what happens :O) (NT) -- No name, 17:13:48 10/10/05 Mon
- I know i am loving it that one mom is soooooo disgusting though she hasn't brushed her hair in years? EW! (NT) -- No name, 17:44:59 10/10/05 Mon
  - JW WAS ON THE SHOW. SHE ENTERS SO MANY PAGEANTS (NT) -- No name, 19:26:12 10/10/05 Mon
    - who is JW? (NT) -- No name, 19:36:24 10/10/05 Mon
      - what pageant were they at in KY? never saw those people before besides JW (NT) -- No name, 19:42:04 10/10/05 Mon
        
        Who is JW? (NT) -- No name, 20:21:39 10/10/05 Mon
        
        Jasmine is a baby that competes alot. She is a doll. She won Majestic, Faces, Dixieland, H&C, Enchanting Stars. She has won alot of online contests. (NT) -- No name, 20:48:29 10/10/05 Mon
IS ANYBODY GONG TO HEART AND CROWNS NATIONAL. IT SEEMS EXPENSIVE EVEN IF YOU WIN THE PHOTO CONTEST -- No name, 19:47:32 10/07/05 Fri [21]
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- We are going we went last year and Angela gives great awards. The pageant is no more expensive then any others. If you get supreme paid and get your deposit in by early deadline you get an additional $150.00 off. The way I figured I will not be out but around 400 with the early discount. Look at all the titles she gives and she does give great awards. (NT) -- IL PAGEANT MOM, 14:03:31 10/08/05 Sat
  - I agree it is no more expensive then any other national and Angela gives a lot of titles. We went last year and she only had 45 contestants and she gave all her money. Great pageant click in -- MI pageant mom, 14:14:35 10/08/05 Sat
    - How can every contestant receive $125 cash? That just doesn't make sense, she wouldn't make a dime with all the other expenses. (NT) -- No name, 14:33:01 10/08/05 Sat
      - I know she went in the whole because she gave all cash as promised. Get the DVD from Robert and see for yourself. She had over 45 titles because overalls were not double crowned and every contestant got a cash prize of $125.00. She has alot of titles and supreme awards. Last year she had a division queen and queen so yes every contestant in the entire pageant got at least $125.00 cash. Click in -- No name, 14:50:37 10/08/05 Sat
        
        I have no experience with this pageant, but as a director myself, I know how much it costs to put on a pageant like this. That is why it is hard to believe that every contestant gets that much cash. I am not disputing you, just checking to see that I was reading that correctly. (NT) -- No name, 15:10:48 10/08/05 Sat
        
        When and where is this pageant? (NT) -- No name, 15:15:19 10/08/05 Sat
        
        Hearts and Crowns National is December 16-18th in Louisville, KY. The website is www.geocities.com/heartsandcrowns My daughter will be attending in the 12-23 group. Great pageant and great awards. My daughter was in 0-11 last year and yes every contestant received a cash prize. Lots of vendors attending this year. (NT) -- No name, 15:28:53 10/08/05 Sat
    - We are attending. Went last year and loved it. My daughter will be in 0-3 supreme group. Every contestant last year walked away with at least $125.00 cash. You should have saw all the toys she gave. Everyone was in shock when they walked in the ballroom. If anyone has any questions I think you should watch the DVD and see for yourself. Most directors wouldn't have gave the cash but this one did. Everyone that went with us last year had a great time. The crowns she gave were beautiful. (NT) -- No name, 14:55:23 10/08/05 Sat
      - Who can't compete this year? Had friends went last year and they all enjoyed it. They said the pageant was very organized and the director gave all her money. I think TS, JW were two of the grands last year. When is the next photo contest? (NT) -- No name, 15:08:27 10/08/05 Sat
        
        Grands last year were Gabriele Trevino, JoAnna W, Taylor Sherman, & Megan Hampton. The pageant is held in Louisville, KY at Executive West in December. We like the fact pro am is not required. It is beauty and the two highest optional events. (NT) -- No name, 15:33:09 10/08/05 Sat
        
        Who can compete agian this yr.grands Gabby T, Joanna , Taylor S mini supreme were Callie and Sadie beauty supreme Chloe B and Aurora N beauty/ photo supremes Briley A and Bailey P novice Hannah S and Layden B can any of these recompete? (NT) -- No name, 17:12:58 10/08/05 Sat
        
        Only the grands can't recompete. The other supremes can (NT) -- No name, 18:03:27 10/09/05 Sun
- we are passing this one up for the #1 which is a flat entry fee pageant for all events.we planned on going when it was originally scheduled for october but since the director moved it- we won't be going. (NT) -- No name, 16:23:54 10/08/05 Sat
- The fees arent so much compared to other pageants. BUT. the payout IF you win the top prize is low and IF you win the 2nd prize its very low. $500 in entry fees for a chance to win $1000? it just doesn't add up. (NT) -- No name, 17:20:27 10/08/05 Sat
  - yes but she has 1 ultimiate with a $5000.00 bond, 4 grands that get 2000 bond and 4 minis that get 1000.00 plus all the other supreme & overall titles. More titles then most nationals offer. More info click in -- Parent from OH who is looking forward to attending, 18:14:25 10/08/05 Sat
    - H&C was suggested by our coach so we are attending. Heard nothing but great things about it. Glad to see a supreme group for 13-up. It is hard for a 17 year old to compete with a 5 year old. Plus we love the fact that La Bell Fille will be attending. They do a great production and I heard this director gives great awards. There are around 5 of us traveling together from TX attending. We entered the photo contest and with the early discount we are only going to be out around 385.00 in fees.C/I -- TX pageant mom, 18:20:27 10/08/05 Sat
- Angela is way to flaky and I don't trust her (NT) -- No name, 18:04:58 10/09/05 Sun
  - Funny, the winners from last yr were right on. Wether they were the biggest name or not. Wether they were a vendor or not. I have heard 2 differant coach suggest this system is being very fair. We will be there this yr and looking forward to it. (NT) -- good luck to all who chose to come. The director is in it for the kids, 19:04:17 10/10/05 Mon
    - I would suggest this national to anyone. The winners were right on last year no matter who the kid was. Our coach suggested us to attend again so we are. It was obvious last year that she didn't provide winners to any clique. Angela gives great awards to everyone and has a fun pageant. Instead of bashing it you should attend to watch. My daughter didn't win a big title last year and we still had a great time and she got tons of great awards. Click in -- Pageant Mom who loved the system last year., 19:19:46 10/10/05 Mon
      - Angela is a great director and she runs a honest pageant. All people to is bitch about unfair pageants well this pageant you do not have to be involed with any cliques, coaches, or vendors to win. Watch the DVD from last year and the winners were right on. My daughter will be crowning this year since we are taking a break but we have friends attending. I predict alot of contestants this year. Great system (NT) -- No name, 19:32:00 10/10/05 Mon
Well well well, funny thing has happened in the last few weeks -- No name, 10:51:56 10/09/05 Sun [6]
A few weeks ago a certain pageant vendor (who has a dd that competes) was all over the original pink board, saying that a certain pageant was just a small west coast meaningless pageant, with nobody contestants competing and that the titles were worthless. She was repeating her story again after they held a mini nationals in a southern state.

Funny how things change. She is now a vendor at their nationals and her child will compete and it is suddenly good enough. And you can believe that when her child wins a title there it will be a big deal.

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- Are you talking about MRE? I have heard of tons that are going to that one. (NT) -- No name, 11:22:17 10/09/05 Sun
- Well in my experience there is a huge difference between mini nationals and the actual national pageant. Many mini natioanls are small and seem more like state pageants. If someone doesn't want to compete at a mini national that is not a bad thing. Maybe they prefer to do national pageants that doesn't mean they don't think the pageant system is good enough just not interested in mini nationals or who wins them. (NT) -- Many of the mini national winners won't even attend nationals maybe they prefer mini nationals., 08:36:50 10/10/05 Mon
- Well the point was as long as the competition was doing the pageant it was shit, now that she is doing it, it is da ' bomb pageant. (NT) -- No name, 08:42:56 10/10/05 Mon
  - I doubt if anyone thinks the actual pageant system is SH** as you put it. Just probably thinks the national is going to be more competitive because they usually are. Probably could care less who competed at the mini national. Doesn't concern anyone unless they were there. Probably doesn't think its sh*t or "da bomb" just another pageant. (NT) -- No name, 15:46:25 10/10/05 Mon
    - I believe her exact quote was " a little west coast, nothing pageant system" (NT) -- No name, 16:01:21 10/10/05 Mon
Who are some of the children that are pretty natually that do qlitz pageants? -- No name, 14:45:45 10/10/05 Mon [1]
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Common lately... -- No name, 16:28:23 10/09/05 Sun [2]
waiting to start because h/m don't have certain girls ready. Most ppw states if you aren't ready on time, will start without or points deducted. Real life = we make sure ready on time, then wait an eternity because certain contestant wasn't 'ready'. No pts ded, last times I recall the girl that everyone waited for became the Grand. Do any directors actually enforce this? Is it on purpose to intimidate? To show they can get away with it? Thoughts and experiences, -- does anyone else really find it frustrating and yet another thing to try to explain that isn't 'fair'?,

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- In the past we HAD to be ready on time , no excuses ! In one system an optional event that I loved, had the girls model three different outfits on actual runways (taped in runways) on the stage. Three girls would be on simultaneiously , each modeling for the judge at the end of her runway. The entire event took one hour total with more than half of the over 100 contestants in the pageant entering that event. I am not thinking that in today's pageantry that type of speed would be possible. (NT) -- No name, 14:44:18 10/10/05 Mon
who won gd 11/12 and 13/15 beauty/division? -- No name, 13:32:34 10/10/05 Mon [1]
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Need web sites to look at crowns? Please does anyone have the web sites to order crowns and custom crowns? -- No name, 09:28:33 10/10/05 Mon [3]
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- crowns for less does all my national crowns. Their email is crowns_for_less@yahoo.com. I have found them to be the best quality and I have ordered from many companies since I have been having pageants for 15 years. I hope that helps. (NT) -- No name, 10:33:50 10/10/05 Mon
  - No crowns for less is terrible try http://www.ecunique.com/ but you are best to call them as they are that internet savvy (NT) -- No name, 12:44:21 10/10/05 Mon

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