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Subject: Re: course - initiation


Author:
Lilly from the Valley
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Date Posted: 15/02/07 15:39
In reply to: sweetsong 's message, "course - initiation" on 15/02/07 9:41

Oh dear Sweetsong

I come across this kind of situation many times, as my business involves communication via e mail and telephone only. When you dont see another persons face or hear the tone of their voice it is very easy to misread what they are saying - believe me its come back & bitten me on the bottom more than once.

I dont believe for one minute anyone here in the Garden means to patronise, judge or exclude you. Indeed, if they wanted to exclude you they wouldnt respond to your posts would they?

When I first decided I wanted to know more about Paganism, I wanted to throw everying into it and grow in my knowledge. I have, however, learned that a lot of what I call 'my path' is about self learning - something no one can really teach you. I thought about Wicca for a while and bought books - even enrolled on a course on the internet (foolish now I know). Anyway, when I eventually grounded myself I realised that Wicca wasnt the path for me but Im not saying it isnt the path for you. I am quite alone in my beliefs and have no one like-minded whom I can buddy up with.

I think WW is quite right in advising you to slow down and take a step back. Ask yourself what YOU want to get out of paganism - it is a vast umbrella and there is no right or wrong path. The only path is what feels right for YOU.

It would be a shame to lose you from the Garden but if you feel so strongly then this is your decision. I can promise you though that you wont come across a better forum in which to share your feelings. The advice given has come from the heart with your best interests in mind. Dont shun those that embrace you. This is not a judgemental site - we all have our problems in life whether health or otherwise and coming to this wonderful Garden full of beautiful people can only enhance your journey. If we all had the same thoughts and beliefs, what a dull world this would be.

Shame to see you go but if you choose to return in the future, I know you will be warmly welcomed. Take care in whatever you do and know that there is always a place for you in the Garden.

Blessings

Lil

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whitewolf
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Date Posted: 15/02/07 16:10

"...surely that makes people feel they have caused their illnesses then!..."

There are many schools of thought which do indeed believe that negativity breeds illness, and similarly that positive thinking can heal. I agree. Think about the people you know who are always positive and smiling - how often do these get ill compared to those people you know who are constantly being negative... which group of people would you say is the healthiest?

Some articles / sites of interest :

Negativity Linked To Heart Disease
Study: Men Who Are Angry, Depressed, Hostile More Likely To Develop Coronary Problems
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/11/17/health/webmd/main2196883.shtml

‘Negativitis’ cripples the human spirit : http://personal-development.com/chuck/negativethinking.htm

Conquering negativity : http://www.harmonyguru.com/2006/09/conquering_nega.html

Saying No to Negativity : http://www.alive.com/3222a6a2.php?subject_bread_cramb=111

There's plenty of sites and books and people out there...

NOW - taking into account that our bodies consist of roughly 70% water, this following experiment is particularly interesting and very much relevant to this discussion - a fascinating experiment, please check it out : Miraculous Messages from Water : http://www.life-enthusiast.com/twilight/research_emoto.htm


"...how do you just become positive then, think myself into positivity?..."

Yes. Please, not for us, but you sweetsong, try this little experiment and see how you feel after, say, two weeks / a month. Try daily affirmations to boost yourself - on waking, think to yourself 'this is going to be a great morning/day' - remind yourself throughout the day that you are (for example) 'a loving person'• 'happy and relaxed' • 'filled with love and healing energies' - or something like
'Just for today I will not be angry' • 'Just for today I will be grateful' • 'Just for today I will be happy' etc... Try looking in the mirror, touching your face or patting the area over your heart and saying aloud 'I love you' - 'I am confident and happy'... the added physical contact helps you acknowledge that you are speaking to yourself.... if that makes sense :) Try this every day and if you don't feel any different... well... you've not lost anything in trying it have you :)

Do you meditate? I really do feel this could help you - if only to help you be more relaxed, which would hopefully lead to a more positive outlook on life.

"...so nobody wants to work with me until i no longer have a mental illness diagnosis..."
i feel you may have over-reacted on this a little sweetsong - nobody in the Garden has said that... we have merely stated the importance of being mentally sound in order to work magic effectively and safely, and have pointed out that it is acceptable for a group to state a preference in the matter (as the coven in question did).

"... i get a sense that i am a pain and am sick of advice..."
I'm sorry you feel this way sweetsong - I personally feel that the Garden folk have been nothing but friendly, helpful and polite to you....if you are "sick of advice" why do you keep asking for it?
Namaste
whitewolf

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