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Subject: repsonse to gumgum


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sunsun
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Date Posted: 11:19:05 07/07/02 Sun

hey gumgum,

thanks gumgum, it is so nice to read your stuffs. i mean not "nice" to be conscious like that, but "nice" to share. i did have so much similar feelings. remember i sent you a chinese article in late june regarding personal histories, the HONG KONG HISTORY, and the feelings i have living in hk? There are similar sentiments built-in. hang it here gumgum! Don¡¦t be too frustrated. Let your soul be in a beautiful zen bath in the high mountains. Love yourself more!

i have a personal realization that we share some similar ways of thinking, no wonder we came from the same group before :-)

sigh! for my ways of "surviving", i don't just mean surviving on living, but supporting myself to live my ideas, i've turned to education. of course, i am lucky enough to be inside institutions. to be able to stay "inside", of course, we have to bear the bureaucracy and the painful experience to see it as merely the mirror of the real world. when you mentioned fascists, i remember lung yin tai's article on fascist artists, a fascist can play pretty good violin sometimes. so we have to be more careful, like in the dept that i am working, like ho chi peng (he was the head of arts development council before and a fucking mess!), the person who knows nothing except eye diseases and violin (maybe ballet and opera, if that says all about art) but is now in charge of home affairs...

see you when you are back. we can go to swimming together. health is important la... i will be extremly busy this month anyways. teaching a summer course. it is culture and identity (a good chance to talk more about fascists... we will talk about "under the lion rock hill¡¨, politically bed time stories, and the story of cat massacre in 1730's. let you know more later).

hey, i might as well also share the chinese article i sent you before here, so more people can read it and raise discussions, although it is not directly about the handover.

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