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Date Posted: 11:56:54 05/14/11 Sat
Author: Margaret
Subject: Re: If you are here still
In reply to: Ben 's message, "Re: If you are here still" on 05:36:09 05/10/11 Tue


Hi, Ben,
as I promissed, I'l tell you about situation with Jack.
It's true proverb - "Little children give little problems, big children give big problems". You know, I had to be 5 days out of home according to my new job now. Jack is growing and increasing financial status is very important for our little family. Jack never was alone such long time but I think he is old enough already (my mistake!) and Nancy kindly agreed to supervised for him. Ben, you know Nancy's family and we are sharing floors in our 2-floor home. However, 5 "days of freedom" were used by Jack completely! Nancy gave me Jack's "punishment calendar", where wasn't free place! Disobedience, back talks, rudeness (real rudeness!), night out of home without Nancy's permission and returning with alcohol smell, neglect of hygiene, smoking (was caught by Nancy when taught Mike to smoke), etc... I decided, it's enough.
On Saturday, May 7, I invitateded Mancy and Mike to my living room. I called and Nancy's daughter too (for increasing Jack's punishment), but Nancy doesn't permit her daughter to see naked Jack, althoug Mike usually is spanked in front her. Mike was spanked for smoking with Jack already, but Nancy decided to repeat punishment.
I called Jack from his room but he was sitting in his "den" and was need to lead him for ear. Both boys were stand in middle of living room and I ordered to Jack take off everything. Nancy gave the same order to Mike. Mike did it fast enough but with tears on eyes, but Jack tried to refuse. He told something I'm 16 already I'm too big for be naked as little boy in front you I'l be do what I want and you have no to spank me! I gave him a few slaps by my hands and bared him myself despite his little resisting, especially, when I pulled down his briefs. In any case, soon he was in his "birthday suit" and was standing cover his penis by hands. I ordered him "hands on head" (Ben, I remembered as your mother worked with you), but he refused and I did it myself. I took his clothes with floor and I have seen that his white breefs is very dirty with big skidmarks. I asked Jack - are you big boy if has such dirty bottom? and showed briefs Nancy and Mike. Jack tried answer something it's my body and I do what I want. I explained him that till he lives under my roof, his hygiene is my matter too! Then he and Mike were lectured by me and Nancy. We decided, Jack would be spanked first. I took wet towell and sat on sofa. I put our usual "spanking pillow" on my left lap and put Jack over my left knee despite his resisting. I invitated Nancy and Jack to see which dirty behind has " big young man", but Jack clenched his bottom. I was need to give him a few good slaps of my hand and he, at last, spread legs on both side of my left knee and gave us comlete view on his open crack and anus. Really, he was dirty! I think, he didn't wipe himself after last pooping completely! I wiped him by wet towell, lectured him about his behavior again when he was in this position in front Nancy and Mike, and started spanking by my usual hairbrush. I hold his bare waist by left hand and blistered his behind by right. He cried and squirmed as little boy, but he got about 30-40 slaps and his behind was dark-red. When I stopped and he stood up still crying for "spanking dance", pillow was wet. Whenhe stopped to jump and rub behind, I myself wiped his wet soft penis and pubic. Then Nancy spanked Mike by belt.

Ben' I'm sorry, I need to breake our conversation, but later I'l continue,

best wishes, Margaret







>>It was my mistake. Jack have done
>>wrongdoings many enough, and this Saturday ( May,7)
>>was day of reckoning for him. He got good spanking in
>>front Nancy and Mike (Mike was spanked by Nancy too),
>>despite his protests that he is 16 already and too old
>>for such punishment, but after punishment his bottom
>>cheeks were dark-red and he cried the same as Mike. If
>>it's interesting for you, I may write more detail.
>
>Yes, Margaret, it's interesting for me. Please write
>more detailed.
>
>>which
>>position did you use more often, when children were
>>older 15? Jack doesn't like "diaper position" but it's
>>maximally convenient for me for evening checking.
>
>Yes, I made the same experiences, and so diaper
>position was used more often.
>
>>>Were
>>twins checked by you and Mark by mother
>>simultaneously, ore one after other and both other
>>could saw it?
>
>The second version.
>
>>> Ben, were there control
>>wiping only, or mother wiped you after each pooping
>>till this age?
>
>Usually control wiping only, but if I was "too dirty"
>for a period of time, mom also wiped after each
>pooping for a week or two. You should use this for
>Jack!
>
>Did you have to call her in bathroom
>>after pooping or she watched you on toilet-tube?
>
>I had to come to her for checking.
>
>What
>>you do when pooped in school toilet?
>
>I had to wipe good because I knew mom's checking comes
>next. But of course I often did it not good.
>
>Did your friends
>>had problems with wiping, when were in teen age?
>
>Of course. But not all of them had so thoroughly
>parents.
>
>>>Did you ought to
>>take off everything in your room or right here, where
>>was exam.
>
>I had to take off everything in my room and to go
>naked to my mom.
>
>> How many minutes your mother spend on exam?
>
>15 - 20 minutes minimum, sometimes half an hour. But
>often it felt like a hour.
>
>>>Ben, I
>>understand, presence of your sister was embarrassed
>>for you, however, you mother was right, and for girls,
>>as mothers in future, it's useful lesson.
>
>Yes, now I understand that. Perhaps you should check
>Jack in front of his girlfriend one time?
>
>Was your
>>sister observator only or mother permitted her to
>>help?
>
>Mostly she was only observator. Only sometimes she had
>to help spreading my cheeks. One time she removed my
>foreskin to help mom checking with the cotton swab.
>
>How old were you when started your modesty be
>>naked in front sister?
>
>12, 13, I think.
>
>Was she embarrassed when saw
>>your nudity during puberty or it wasn't big deal for
>>her?
>
>It wasn't big deal. Only in the beginning she giggled
>from time to time when seeing my erection.
>
>>>Were
>>you checked by mother together then or sister was
>>checked separately? If together, which was your
>>reaction? Which problems had your sister with
>>cleanliness then?
>
>We were checked together. I was spiteful, seeing her
>so, and sometimes aroused. She didn't wash her vagina
>enough.
>
>>>Ben, when you had lost of semen, did you
>>cover your penis by hands or it was stream?
>
>I don't understand what you mean with "or it was
>stream". Please explain your question.
>
>> - Were they witnesses of your checking? Did you
>>yourself see their checking? How old were they, when
>>parents stopped to check them?
>
>Yes and yes. One of them was 17, like me. The other
>was 18.
>
>>>>Ben, it's psychological
>>portrait of my Jack!!! Really, boys are boys!
>
>Exactly. That's why you should plan to tighten the
>cleanliness rules for Jack like my mother did for me
>and I did for my children. Or did you do it already?
>
>>>her." - I think so too, and, perhaps, I'l
>>realize this possibility..
>
>Please tell me about your experiences.
>
>>Ben, I have 2 additional questions for you, OK?
>>
>>1). You told that your mother used regular enemas for
>>you. How she did it?
>
>Well, whe had a washroom cellar where I had to go with
>my mom. I had to make me naked, than to kneel on the
>hard floor and to spread my cheeks with my hands. I
>got two or more gallons of soapy water. After it, I
>had to stand in the corner for three-quarters of an
>hour in average with my hands in the neck. When I felt
>the urge to move because of the cramps and spasms, my
>mom thrashed my bare bottom with a paddle to make me
>standing still again. After the period of time I was
>allowed to expel in front of my mom. I had to do it
>into the sinkhole of the cellar.
>
>>2). Your mother used face slaps for you, but did you
>>get usual spanking? How she did it?
>
>There was no system. She used whatever she could
>reach: wooden spoons, a cane, a slipper, a carpet
>beater, a coat-hanger and so on. I hand to bend over
>and she thrashed my bare bottom, while lecturing me.
>When I was fidgeting too much, she hold my ear or my
>balls with one hand while beating me. Especially
>holding my balls was extremely effective for keeping
>me a amenable and silent boy, like you may imagine...
>
>> Best wishes to you and your family. How about
>>Wanessa? When you will be granddad and Kevin uncle?
>
>She's fine, thank you for questioning. The due date is
>in July.
>
>Also best wishes to you and Jack.
>Ben

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