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Subject: Re: UK race series


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Chris
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Date Posted: 16:03:36 07/21/02 Sun
In reply to: Joel 's message, "Re: UK race series" on 11:01:59 07/21/02 Sun

>Hi Chris
>
>Thanks for setting the record streight for us
>beginners, not only are you entitled to moan, but from
>the sound it's REQUIRED. ;-) It is a real pisser when
>people let you down when putting on events, I have had
>a tiny bit of experience with that and it not only
>causes stress, but you also feel let down.
>
>A couple of genuine questions, is affiliation with the
>likes of the IGSA necessary, do they help with
>insurance, sponsors, etc.??? or is it more to do with
>world ranking points? you seemed to manage Avimore
>very well without them.

No the IGSA dont do anything for the riders needs in the UK.




>
>Although having a huge race like Avimore each year and
>really promotes the sport. To be honest tho a series
>of say 6-10 races dosnt need to be anywhere neer that
>scale, tho fat a series closing race with series
>podium would be sweet.

If I cannot get sponsors for Aviemore with 30 min coverage on channel 4 there is no way you will get any for a race series.
The way it has to be done is with membership and entry fee to cover the costs plus enough riders to cover those costs.



>
>With regards to the cost of races, i guess i was a
>little pre-emptive when saying £40 was too much, yes
>it isn't cheap, but with the likes of mountain bike
>races u are usually guaranteed 100+ racers. I do think
>a properly organised UK series would attract quite a
>few racers, as long as the events are held in places
>that are easilly accessible. Yes hill climb tracks are
>usually a bit short, but they are often found in
>easily accessible places, and being short you don't
>need as many bales ;-)

The number of riders you get at a race at this time would be no more than 10 to 15 this includes you.(Joel)
Hillclimb roads are whats needed what ever the length but these still need PROTECTION.I have been to a few hillclimbs just to check out the road to see if it can be used (Derek is sorting out Scamonden) the only people who will be able to try this have to have insurance to ride it.
This is where for months i have been trying to get club insurance.



>
>I also think that before (this is probably prety
>obvious from you point Chris) any practicle work is
>done everything should be done on paper, costs, rider
>estimates, provisional dates for events, marketing
>stratagies, etc., etc., etc.... this way it is far
>more likley to get sponsors. It's like when you want
>to start a business, you don't just go to the bank and
>ask for a loan, you need to have a highly detailed
>business plan.
>
>It is with this stage that those of us with fresh
>enthusiasm (and some brains) can help, I would be more
>than willing to cold call potential venues, sponsors,
>councils, etc, etc, I have experience of this and
>enthusiasm is something that rubs off on people,
>making it more likley that things will happen.
>
>With regards to people letting you down setting up the
>event, thats a hard on and requires a lot of trust.
>Proper prior planning will help tho, if every one
>knows what to do and when a few months in advance it
>is far less likley for that we(?) would be let down.
>
>Whadda ya recon then, how would you feel about getting
>a proper race series proposal together and then see
>where it goes from there? whats the harm?
>
>Thanks again
>
>Joel
Well the first get togther will be at Traws on the weekend of the 31st August I will be there what ever.

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