gold extraction, refining, and assay in mozelland
And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. - Eph. 5:11, 13
@dan -- mozel, 00:48:37 03/27/12 Tue [1]
what did I post that perplexed you ?
I am banned from viewing the godlike productions ...
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mozel -- dan, 00:00:56 03/27/12 Tue [1]
I read what you posted the other night and it perplexed me at the time, I'm sorry that the other forum is sliding, as it is why shouldn't it be opened instead of closed? I have two more edu-links similar to how I think on The Cathars http://www.ancientquest.com/embark/cathars.html and watch the second video linked from source acquired http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message549661/pg1 as far as talking to me you always could've while I'm alive, hopefully not too risky, let me know. AZAU is a good poster and I share many of perspectives. The rest are well down the path of declination unless they change course.
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@dan ... I just don't want to study the esoteric or the demonic ... -- mozel, 18:36:12 03/26/12 Mon [1]
I don't see any good future in it, to be candid ...
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@freedom to fascism -- mozel, 14:35:37 03/26/12 Mon [1]
I agree with the closed forums standpoint ... only the L'il Devil is excluded here ...
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@dan @sorry to perplex ... don't recognize the referenced post either -- mozel, 14:30:57 03/26/12 Mon [1]
give me some more clues and I'll do my best to clarify ...
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from freedom to facism -- schwarze sonne, 05:17:27 03/24/12 Sat [1]
snip"By closing the forums to open comment you've sealed them like tombs, there's nothing living and dynamic in these closed forums..."arbeit macht freid" and the gates claim liberty become death, yes officers you can have it your way and suffocate in creating your own reality, am I going to post in such fascist environs? NO. If you want closed forums, fine, then also encrypt them from public view so that only logged in members can read and post to each other, that is the logical sense of closing the forums rather than making them open to anyone to view but where posters are eartagged like cattle, if that doesn't smack of hypostasis of the archons...
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mozel.... -- dan, 22:52:05 03/23/12 Fri [1]
Your comment perplexed me, the one I read elsewhere.. I'll kindly submit this for your detailed study http://unslavedmedia.net/unslavedmedia/watch_video.php?v=6M923N3UY4MK Now, I'm reserved in my comments, I think the same way, however I'm somewhat controlled by circumstance, also the laird has collated mozel...
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@dan @I'm glad to hear from you ... -- mozel, 19:12:02 03/13/12 Tue [1]
Did you encounter Gregory Dickow at the Life Changer's Int'l church in chicago ??? I hope you will examine his gospel ... http://www.gregorydickow.org
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All the best from dan. -- dan, 05:28:20 03/11/12 Sun [1]
Hope you are all doing well, of course this life is vapor and passes quickly, hopefully the next world is better.
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mozel -- dan, 22:43:49 09/14/11 Wed [1]
don't worry, I'm okay, just not posting as have to consider idiot traitors that don't understand anything
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The Yid and his bank are now ruling over everything: -- mozel, 14:06:30 08/25/11 Thu [1]
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New series -- 
Eldorado, 08:37:48 04/23/11 Sat [1]
Found a nice new 72 part series on youtube recently called "Know Your Enemy". Brings many/most of the pieces together quite nicely that are otherwise generally scattered about for the most part. All in all, not a tooooo shabby of a job upon which one can build.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDDGl79x4Pc
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yes, I miss dan ... -- mozel, 20:05:52 03/23/11 Wed [1]
I hope he is safe and happy ..
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PEACE? -- Rack, 10:18:25 03/18/11 Fri [1]
REAL PEACE?
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DAAAAAN !!!! -- siempre33, 09:01:21 03/18/11 Fri [1]
where ARE you?
Gold [& Silver]is good
God is good
Dog is good
touching dog story in Japan...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ttuNmmKRGlg
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@hey dan -- mozel, 11:17:20 11/24/10 Wed [1]
hope you haven't been abducted by UFO, in contrast to, State of Louisiana aliens ... all the best ...
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Some videos -- dan, 01:20:43 06/14/10 Mon [1]
some think diaster is a mud volcanoe http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qT9ePSwi79E&feature=related Hutchison effects, interestesting comments on energy from time and space if you have any familiarity http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO-1l0lXR_U&feature=related this one is on rigins with segments from Zach Stitchin and Lloyd Pye http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rFdZS-EnG8&feature=related this one has some interesting allusions including pictures of the Niagra Falls ice bridge and explanation http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jV0SdsVYyuw&feature=related next a search so you can watch dangerous memes on TED http://www.ask.com/web?q=%27dangerous+memes%27&o=15665&l=dis&jss=1 maybe an antidote for negativity?
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Life Inc. -- dan, 09:58:21 06/09/10 Wed [1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sOBWhVe68os&feature=related good description of the situation it seems. Now on mkts, i thought last friday was staged, the goal as I said is low interest rates on govt debt and note how everything they do centers on that theme. You have a right shoulder of a head and shoulders top in bonds, oil suggests bonds are overvalued, what they're doing is deciding whether to stay in bonds or shift to stocks, bonds are a sitting duck.
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Hypostasis of Aeon's under the Archons -- dan, 02:58:45 06/07/10 Mon [1]
http://www.haverford.edu/relg/faculty/amcguire/relg221b/hyparchons.htm http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_watchers22.htm or just search the topic http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=Hypostasis%20of%20Aeon%27s%20under%20the%20Archons&ei=UTF-8&fr=chrome maybe Ophiuchus could post some of these links
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mozel -- dan, 02:25:07 06/06/10 Sun [1]
Do you think I'm being emotional? I suppose if people had no conviction they couldn't do anything. How could I trade the things I have without conviction? Rip cites my loss in nat gas, however if they were still ripping off people for 10% every contract rollover ung would be worthless. The markets aren't markets anymore than the worldwide policestate a govt of by and for the people, the whole situation is facism economic/political/religious too as churches seek to monopolise god. It is aggravating to know what is going on in this ridiculous world. If I live to retire it will be a wilderness area if possible, maybe I'll die beforehand I don't know. Regardless no one can live another's life, so we all live our own is all. On ufo ideas? I doubt the universe revolves around a flat earth, I think there well could be things beyond our perception, you must believe it to accept the supernatural as true. I suspect some of the craft are govt and others may be from unknown sources, it would be interesting to use night vision as some claim. If angels are possible I suppose "aliens" are too whatever they are. Religion has been so monopolised you have to look further than how it's been popularly distributed. The truth is this crap world just doesn't add up, and I think this material construct is of the demiurge and not god, however most think god created this construct, clearly this world is evil entirely. You can say emotion, however none of it adds up unless the common denominator is evil. As for the euro, jimmy crack corn I don't care, let it collapse, let it all collapse and be done with it entirely, I know what makes sense just as I told Bullish, to get me they must destroy the usa economy, and they did to my suprise, now a greater destruction awaits. Europe doesn't have to raise interest rates, instead let them go the way of argentina, fine by me as I could care less whether they do or die.
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@dan -- mozel, 23:20:15 06/05/10 Sat [1]
I am convinced all UFO matter is of intelligence agency origin. MK Ultra for the mass media mind. It's a DOD project, to guarantee support in public opinion, even when all earth opposition has been vanquished.
Trading is a difficult art ... for me, anyway. It's best not to take trade outcomes personally, as emotional trades are especially hazardous in my experience.
The Peace of the Lord Jesus be with you, wherever you go.
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Links for 1984 full length movie -- dan, 17:41:44 06/05/10 Sat [1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hATC_2I1wZE&feature=player_embedded this is the original 1984 http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5464625623984168940&ei=WuqISfhsisSpArXR1MYL&q=1984# this is the american remake which centers around sex rather than Orwell's message. it has nakedness so if that offends... not really porny just amrikan disinfo/memri or lost word ops. Next... http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5752843086186063624# this is Brazil which introduces the raised heel underlying big brother and is similar to 1984's message. Lastly is http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=720 which has many movie links that may interest, I'd thought I posted these, anyway here they are again.
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Behold -- HolyDevil, 22:08:15 06/04/10 Fri [1]
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The best description of the modern policestate is a continuance of the inquisition. -- dan, 20:20:17 06/02/10 Wed [1]
I urge anyone interested in understanding the origin of the modern policestate to listen. http://www.outtherabbithole.com/2009/02/ this is the program link http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=2425387&blogId=473625696 which should produce this download link http://www.kuci.org/podcastfiles/668/Kirsch.mp3 now maybe you can just cut and paste the mp3 link into your browser, anyway this is what I could find as I downloaded this already some time ago and just am trying to get you a working download link and source, btw the kuci outtherabbithole programs are worthwhile, remember follow the white rabbit. Next upe find the idea that christianity and masonry are tied to solar cults http://www.truthbeknown.com/ http://www.truthbeknown.com/victims.htm
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Are we living in a sort of Matrix or artificial simulation? -- dan, 01:43:27 06/02/10 Wed [1]
This is the best link and should be read and explored carefully and I'll include a few more links. http://in2worlds.net/fake-reality http://montalk.net/matrix/114/food-for-the-moon http://blogs.setonhill.edu/LeslieRodriguez/013632.html http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:IIblC9KIxKgJ:www.deathtoglamour.com/cat/3-blogs/articles/401-its-all-fake-the-matrix--truman-show-is-real---the-real-world-does-not-exist+http://www.deathtoglamour.com/cat/3-blogs/articles/401-its-all-fake-the-matrix--truman-show-is-real---the-real-world-does-not-exist&hl=en&client=mandrake&gl=us&strip=1 I hope someone will find these informative.
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Do we radiate effect upon the material world? -- dan, 23:56:20 06/01/10 Tue [1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcT8YLE-zM4 then some other links http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm http://www.ask.com/web?q=TS-MAJIC-NSC&o=101483&l=dis http//nazarenebloodline7777.blogspot. com/ you can read and discover for yourself or not. What is convienient is there's no telling who dan is anymore as there's so many dan now.
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mozel, I'll post a couple links that may interest. -- dan, 01:24:10 05/26/10 Wed [1]
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=17736&context=va the conclusion (bottom of page) is civil govt has been hijacked and is enthralled to the money power. cooperativeresearch.org can also be googled and may interest you and lastly consider this selection from Myron Dylan's underworld gallery http://www.egos.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=1577 note the symbology of the wreath and consider http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wreath well I just wanted to include a couple of links here is all without belaboring.
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Actually mozel, the best place is where your friends are. -- dan, 23:01:51 05/24/10 Mon [1]
I have a bad feeling in a way here, maybe ak is better, I read your post some time ago re: the man resettling in ak and having better fortune, I knew the post regarded not angola indiana but as intended quite a ways south of there. Cold is hell but with the gulf spill etc I feel like fleeing into the wilderness per the biblical admonition.(actually I feel like going into the wilderness to die in nature to be honest)(sorry as you probably didn't need to hear that but it's honestly how I'm feeling right now) gosh the world is in a sad, sad situation all over. Well, best and signing off for now. Let me know what you think of that craft, hyperdimensional characteristics meaning space/time and possibly even time travel.
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Actually mozel I have all kinds of problems right now. -- dan, 22:36:21 05/24/10 Mon [1]
Trading problems, the last trade was buying 9950 eurodollar puts last sunday night an was fought by banks monetising so I let them have it back where I got in thursday and you see now they're breaking them down, bad enough but I bought note puts friday and am taking heat on that now. Problems with trading accts switching trades, problems with options quotefeed etc. etc. On the brightside among the living I suppose. Incidentally some ask me if I am you and you know how they react to some of your links and I tell them I really don't know who mozel is. Anyway otherwise I have a prepared post on the Western Alberta sighting which I believe is an obvious craft but take a look or search etc. snip" I would say our estimation of society is partially based on our awareness, ignorance is bliss comes tom mind. Are you looking to flee into the wilderness as that seems the only real answer is to get away from people. It's discouraging and I'm discouraged so let's change the subject from societal problems to what type of craft maybe in these videos of ufo sighting over western Alberta. http://www.overclock.net/technology-science-news/738856-theweatherspace-ufo-spiral-over-western-canada.html searched and found this to use as I'd seen the video posted elsewhere. Now note the light and spiral and sounds like thunder when they disappear; I saw another video of one in China with similar characteristics, I wonder who or what is the source of these obvious craft? Nice to see you post and among the living. P.S. I really don't know where is best to suggest to anyone as part of the answer depends on them subjectively." They're trying to kill me in mkts and basicly the world doesn't look good all the way around. Kind Regards as always to my friends.
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@dan @Meant Angola not Parchman ... -- mozel, 20:15:28 05/24/10 Mon [1]
also got iesnare hacked ... in linux !!!! What next ???
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Hi dan -- mozel, 08:55:01 05/24/10 Mon [1]
The Kanes were extra judicially executed. Legal murder. Legal political assassination in the USA is becoming routine. Bring in the bananas and the clowns, always more clowns. Is it any better in Costa Rica ?
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Hope all are well, I've looked into the murder of the Kane's. -- dan (sex and deathcult culture; happy broodsows), 15:27:05 05/23/10 Sun [1]
Of course we know the controlled media is total rubbish, where is all the video of the execution style murder of the Kanes? snip: What are the facts regardless of useless characterisations designed to mislead sheople sopping up slop, what are the motives, means and opportunity? Now is it that the Kane's had been confronted by LAW ENFARCEMENT AGENTS for years or is it LAW ENFARCEMENT AGENTS had been levying war against the Kane's for years under color of law in treason against the people of the united states. The truth is you're all living in a huge Orwellian pigsty and like maggots are comfortable in shit for a system environs while at the same time clueless and oblivious to the obvious. Stop living like livestock being preyed upon by a terrorist predator policestate, wake up you fools. Now here's a motive as to why the Kane's were murdered, they were waking people up. http://heros-heroines.blogspot.com/2010/05/jerry-and-joe-kane-heros-or-villains.html http://freemanireland.ning.com/forum/topics/rip-jerry-and-joe-kane http://www.freeandclearin90.com/ http://privateaudio.homestead.com/Jerry-and-Joe-Kane-Memorial.html freeyourbrain and stop living like useless nazi broodsows in an archontic matrix. Best to my friends in this life or the next.
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Hi Michael H and mozel and all. -- dan, 17:39:45 05/16/10 Sun [1]
I haven't been posting except a couple of posts which I really didn't elaborate on and I had more I wanted to say over the weeks but peruse these links http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1067205/pg1 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message1066474/pg1 there's some similarity to the theme and recognizant of conversations with Bullish? what happened there???? I would be more conversive if the world were less a facist pigsty full of nazi broodsows of Orwell's political economy animal farm world aka shit all the way through, just being honest about it.
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Oh, and just to clarify and not mislead... -- MichaelH, 12:52:52 05/07/10 Fri [1]
There may be stressful event Aug 1, but that isn't when the big deal starts.
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The surprise to me is... -- MichaelH, 12:43:29 05/07/10 Fri [1]
mathematical research into gold...
Hey, isn't that 40 years from the date from my full blown kundalini experience (1970) ? And how then the different turns and twists of being lured back into Maya. Then at meditation course, the nut job who brain washed me with his discovery of how to predict gold prices with astrology. Then... Then.. more and more Maya destining me back into gold happenings. Couldn't escape it.
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Arch Crawford (astrologer) says what's coming -- MichaelH, 12:34:40 05/07/10 Fri [1]
on Aug 1, 2010 is thought to be the most stressful aspects in 10,000 years. Manfred, another type astrologer, financial advisor sees this as a change over of 26K year approximate "around all the astrological signs".
I think they are both off by an order of magnitude.
It is 12x 26,000 year changeover, or about 312,000 year event change. I thought I read the "cassiopeaen beings" say the negative beings have ruled / interfered over humans for about 310,000 years.
And Golden Age of Aquarius said by some... Maharish Mahesh Yogi called for the Age of Enlightenment... Profound changes coming up.
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Dan: Now is the world coming to an end, -- MichaelH, 13:23:37 04/30/10 Fri [1]
I see it as an astrological age of Pisces is coming to an end. I'm wondering if other ages come to a destructive period as their end? Sinking of Atlantis - I wonder if that is the end of a 12 cycle ~ 26k years? Noah flood? (not sure if it is factual)
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The fantasy gas chambers at Auschwitz -- mozel, 12:21:31 04/11/10 Sun [1]
"Specifically, my thesis is that there were no gas chambers in the Nazi concentration camps. I am going to give six reasons for this: ..."
http://www.geniebusters.org/915/04g_gas.html
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caveat emptor ... just a reminder the reader is responsible for himself ... -- mozel, 20:59:36 04/09/10 Fri [1]
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Re: Caveat Emptor -- Eldorado, 09:18:24 03/13/10 Sat [1]
...Please explain.
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More tobacco sales suppression -- Eldorado, 09:17:06 03/13/10 Sat [1]
U.S. Senate Vote to Curb Internet Tobacco Sales Is Victory for Kids and Taxpayers
The PACT Act will:
-- Require Internet sellers to pay all federal, state, local or Tribal
tobacco taxes and affix tax stamps before delivery to any customer;
-- Mandate that the age and identification of purchasers be checked at
purchase and at delivery;
-- Require Internet vendors to comply with state and local laws as if they
were located in the same state as their customers;
-- Provide federal and state enforcement officials with new tools to block
delivery of cigarettes and smokeless tobacco products that evade federal
or state laws; and
-- Ban the delivery of tobacco products through the U.S. mail.
http://www.itnewsonline.com/showprnstory.php?storyid=92793
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Rod Class material ... caveat emptor -- mozel, 22:14:08 03/12/10 Fri [1]
http://www.rayservers.com/blog/rod-class-1st-objection-to-ohio-and-judicial-notice
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Some telling 9/11 links. -- dan, 20:49:34 03/06/10 Sat [1]
http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/core.html http://www.ae911truth.org/twintowers.php http://911research.wtc7.net/materials/wtc/twintowers.html Not much time to post, just found these interesting.
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There IS hope for the cause -- Eldorado, 09:55:21 03/05/10 Fri [1]
I'm finding the avenue towards relief thru the site posted below. Rod Class is getting some amazing work done.
http://www.talkshoe.com/talkshoe/web/talkCast.jsp?masterId=48361&cmd=tc
He'll be on the programs which aren't the 'county assembly' programs.
I think you may find them as 'interesting' as I have, with the 'avenues' he's been proceeding through. He's having success where others have gone to prison.
I've been listening weekly and accessing the archives over the past 3 months in checking the veracity which I always doubt. However, the value is being found to be unique through all the babble of the rest of the patriot type 'law' movement. Give yer 'sniff' test.
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Without register, there are no fences. -- mozel, 21:36:50 03/03/10 Wed [1]
Hope you are well, dan. Visit more often. I may be offline for a while.
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Maybe I'll update later on my listening and reading -- dan, 22:59:53 03/02/10 Tue [1]
I'd rather be anon than register. Odd that you mention ol miss. Anyway I've read Ophiuchus's 'Not in His Image by John Lash suggestion and is instructive on the Gaia/Sophia belief system, some good presentations are made and much analysis of the Cult of Aton patriarchy and zaddikim history twists. I felt somewhat naive critique' of the broad pagan inclusion and matriarchal centered christian religions such as Catholicism. Overall an instructive read despite myoptic christer bashing imo. Also try listening to andy basiagio, may be a letter off on spelling the lastname but informative on likelyhood of mars colony etc, exists on redice podcasts if interested. Also obviously we're amidst change however the psicean age may last hundreds of years yet, speaking of which perhaps it's transdimensional meaning overlapping dimensions as I've previously described vessica pisces symbology as opposed to say sun wheel which could be viewed as a point within a circle suggesting varied directions or paths/doorways as in many worlds theory. Just a brief note recognising you as I do, however many oppose your postings which they can't glean info from me because I really have no idea about you other than your handle, see how well anon works!
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@dan -- mozel, 10:14:37 02/13/10 Sat [1]
I have excluded Lil Devil and skinee. Hope you understand I don't have time to clean up after them.
Hope all is well there in the parish.
I am communicating with a state neighbor of yours about his law fight. He says Shalom in his emails. He spent a long time in Parchman, but recovered in Alaska, he says.
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check -- mozel, 14:39:01 02/05/10 Fri [1]
check
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Tracking the bastards back through time, part 2 -- mozel, 19:01:56 01/19/10 Tue [1]
Are you ready? This is how the same people who are running the world now ran it from 1500-1900, moving their power base from Spain and Portugal to Holland and then to England.
http://www.rebelnews.org/opinion/race/169233-a-slice-of-time-and-the-fate-of-the-world
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Germany Then — America Now! -- mozel, 18:59:20 01/19/10 Tue [1]
Kevin MacDonald’s recent review of William Marr’s 1870s pamphlet, The Victory of Judaism over Germanism,...
http://www.rebelnews.org/opinion/history/167028-germany-then--america-now
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Man walks on Nibiru ... after Magic Rocket Ride ... -- mozel, 18:52:33 01/19/10 Tue [1]
Nasa loses tape ... just televise it for the Lil Troll in a devil costume ... so he can authority and ideology techno-worship ...
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dan @ -- lived lil, 16:33:55 01/18/10 Mon [1]
"...................http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/40128 http://feeds.globide.com/supernaturalexistence Therein seek and ye shall find the answer to eph and tbh although you should probably listen to the episode on demonic possession first, hope this helps and may god bless...................."
Yes thanks I will.
".......................Now the issue at heart here isn't how smart you feel you are in a self aggrandising way,........."
No of course not, why?
"...........neither is the issue necessarily defined as niburu..............."
In the real physical sense it is!!!
Niburu must have mass, velocity, gravity and must interact with the surrounding solar system and vice-versa(kepler,newton).
No other theories are relevant to niburu if niburu is physically just not there (visible or gravitationally).
"................However underground bases give pause to ask why as does occulted history. Now is the world coming to an end, of course it is experiencially for everyone all in due course and time, it's just that you choose to soothe yourself with illusions................"
Who needs soothing? Not me. I can handle yours and other theories I just don't buy into Nirubu 2012 thats all.
U.G. Bases? Yes many and many reasons.
Occulted history? Occult is BS unless you count wanna-bees and self fulfilling prophesies.
".......................We now history is a lie, we know we've been lied to, we know so much of the system is a lie as are it's authority figures liars and much, much worse......................"
Yes many lies, some big some small mixed with truths and half truths, blessed with superstitions and stupidity, selfishness and greed.
That's why math and a thorough understanding of the physical is required to SEE through the hucksterism....
".................... That said I think you'll agree and ask yourself is it possible you're wrong and have been misled and bought into the lie on some level......................"
On some level? Sure. But not on 2012 niburu thingy.
Lets have a RIOT! Ozzy Osbourne Circa 1980
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Here LilDevil. the answer you seek is somewhere within -- dan, 14:10:30 01/18/10 Mon [1]
http://www.podcastdirectory.com/podcasts/40128 http://feeds.globide.com/supernaturalexistence Therein seek and ye shall find the answer to eph and tbh although you should probably listen to the episode on demonic possession first, hope this helps and may god bless. Now the issue at heart here isn't how smart you feel you are in a self aggrandising way, neither is the issue necessarily defined as niburu. However underground bases give pause to ask why as does occulted history. Now is the world coming to an end, of course it is experiencially for everyone all in due course and time, it's just that you choose to soothe yourself with illusions. We now history is a lie, we know we've been lied to, we know so much of the system is a lie as are it's authority figures liars and much, much worse. That said I think you'll agree and ask yourself is it possible you're wrong and have been misled and bought into the lie on some level.
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historical evidence of shake ups -- MichaelH, 13:06:58 01/18/10 Mon [1]
http://www.knowledge.co.uk/velikovsky/
Strongly denounced by hired hands in astronomy.
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@I have no opinion on Nibiru ... -- mozel, 11:30:59 01/18/10 Mon [1]
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MSNBC's CHRIS MATTHEWS PERPETUATES HATRED FOR THE TEA PARTY MOVEMENT -- mozel, 11:26:30 01/18/10 Mon [1]
By William Owens, Jr.
January 17, 2010
NewsWithViews.com
MSNBCís Hardball host Chris Matthews has continued to demonstrate ?
graphically and offensively ? the twisted double standard that allows
liberal commentators to defame and insult black conservatives without
fear of retribution or even criticism from other mainstream media
outlets.
He consistently and intentionally refers to grassroots Americans who
have become politically involved in the Tea Party movement as
ìTeabaggersî ? a derogatory term describing a homosexual sex practice
too offensive to describe. Anyone other than a prominent liberal on an
aggressively liberal cable station would be fired for using such an
offensive term, but Matthews and his ilk are given a free pass to defame
honest, God-fearing and concerned conservative Americans whose only
ìcrimeî is a concern for the direction their country is heading.
However, on January 5th, Matthews took his persistent diatribe against
grassroots conservative Americans in a whole new and dangerous
direction: adding race-baiting to his kit-bag of insults, slander and
insinuation (http://tinyurl.com/yadd6gv).
Interviewing Mark McKinnon of The Daily Beast, Matthews asked, ìSo who
will lead the tea-baggers?î Before his guest could answer, Matthews went
on: ìTheyíre monochromatic, right? Ö every picture I see shows them to
be Ö theyíre all white. All of them, every single one of them is white.î
McKinnon responded, ìI think thatís a fair characterization,
predominantly,î to which Matthew replied, ìYeah, well whatís that
about?î
I happen to be a black American who, along with my wife Selena, have
participated in and spoken at each of the Tea Party Express events. I am
also a publisher and the author of Obama: Why Black America Should Have
Doubts. I am outraged over this obvious racial slur. I can only assume
that Mr. Matthews, in addition to gleefully demeaning grassroots
Americans with his constant references to ìteabaggers,î is intent on
inserting racism into the Tea Party movement.
Matthews has ignored my wife and me though our participation has been
highly visible ? even CNN featured me in their 2009 Year in Review
coverage of the Tea Party movement.
Worse, Matthews has blatantly ignored the participation of all
grassroots black Americans in the Tea Party movement, such as Lloyd
Marcus, the official ìunhyphenated black Americanî and Tea Party Express
patriotic singer/songwriter, as well as attendees and local Tea Party
speakers.
Matthews has no excuse for not knowing about this assault, or the
participation of many other black Americans in grassroots political
events. By pushing conservative black Americans to the back of the media
bus, Matthews has once again exposed his ulterior motives, just as he
did when he repetitively referred to politically active Americans with a
repugnant homosexual slur ? to promote division, hatred and racism.
Chris Matthews is a disgrace to American journalism and to all who
cherish free expression and participation in Americaís democracy.
However, unlike liberals who shout ìoff with their headsî at any
conservative who commits what they consider to be a politically
incorrect offense, I am not asking for what would amount to a lukewarm
apology from MSNBC. Frankly, I believe that MSNBC and Chris Matthews
deserve each other. My only regret is that whenever someone like Mr.
Matthews ? with a microphone and an audience ? stirs racial hatred or
participates in race-baiting, black Americans are the ones who pay the
price.
About Higher Standard Publisher and William Owens
Higher Standard Publishers is the official publisher for The Tea Party
Express Commemorative Journal. The journal conveys the function of the
Tea Party Express tours, while also focusing on the top political issues
facing Americans. The third Tea Party Express tour, ìJust Vote Them Outî
is scheduled to begin in Searchlight, Nevada ? hometown of Senate
Majority Leader Harry Reid ? on March 27, 2010, and will commence in
Washington DC on Tax Day, April 15, 2010.
William Owens is the Author of: Obama: Why Black America Should Have
Doubts
© 2010 William Owens, Jr. - All Rights Reserved
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Why Not Niribu Dr. dan? -- lived lil, 09:35:34 01/18/10 Mon [1]
Pluto can be seen with an amateur telescope but it is not easy.
http://nineplanets.org/pluto.html
Charon Imaged by Amateur Astronomers
http://www.universetoday.com/2008/10/30/charon-imaged-by-amateur-astronomers/
Amateur astronomer discovers new asteroid
http://www.chinapost.com.tw/taiwan/arts-&-leisure/2009/10/20/229302/Amateur-astronomer.htm
PS Ignoring the physics of Newton and Kepler reveals your true attitude in these matters.............
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@apekind and lil devils in 'em @dan spears the the ideology, authority worship poster -- mozel, 08:35:34 01/18/10 Mon [1]
with his insight ... pinned him to his own church door ... a wiggling, squiggling, living thesis ...
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LilDevil and mozel -- dan, 05:43:38 01/18/10 Mon [1]
mozel, I'm fairly sure some of the links posted at 64855 have scripts/spyware especially the youtube links. However you can use a live system to counteract that as you likely know. Really you have no problem, your hardware is okay, it's just software that needs reworking. What is bad about posting is people tend to target you for what you have to say, so keep your identity a secret especially from those around you. Now onto .........................................................................................................LilDevil, please stop making a fool of yourself posting pictures of the sky saying see there and talking about keplar etc when you don't even know what eph and tbh are. Now I would agree there should be some movement of the blacked out coordinates area and I suspect there is, however they're saying amateur astronomers can't see until within 5au if you read the link which you didn't and simply want to post ideology rather than science as your authority worship based faith that is no more faith, science or law than held true on planet of the apes by apekind. Just to show how really dumb you are explain eph and tbh if you can, please mull that over in your keplar and report back.
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@dan -- mozel, 21:16:56 01/17/10 Sun [1]
Glad you're hanging here.
Thinking about building an ark.
Earl's not worth the powder.
Neither is 64855.
Please stop minimizing my puter hell; your lightheartedness over it increases the pain.
They broke my utube, too.
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Needless to say you have some pretty sloppy logic LilDevil -- dan, 16:52:02 01/17/10 Sun [1]
Okay LilDevil, you post children's online gailileo cartoons and toy telescopes asking why children aren't making observations as posted in my links, meanwhile you ignore the vatican observatory and worldwide deep underground bases that untold amounts were spent on. Now who controlled history and has sequestered history in vaults under the vatican? Why are they gazing skyward, now I suppose you'll say they're looking for the second advent? Is that what the govt observatories in antartica are looking for? Are there any secrets kept like jkf etc? Do you suppose every schoolboy science class teaches all knowledge, do you suppose the earth is flat because were it round people would fall off, is that the best logic you have? Now you could if knowledgeable post what the blacked out area sky looks like with a photo from your toy telescope, please disprove the work others posted rather than posting toys and cartoons which only fool idiots that cast a cursory gaze saying gee whiz that little devil is smart being too stupid and lazy to investigate the post for themselves and note the blacked out area asking why. Now take the picture of the blacked out area and locate that being other than the blacked out area if you can. While it is other people's work I can't argue any good reason for those coordinates being blacked out, the many deep underground bases, the seed vaults, vatican observatory and hidden history other than maybe there's something to it. Time will tell regardless.
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Here's a topic on the 400 ounce tungsten bars from the outcasts forum -- dan, 11:38:00 01/17/10 Sun [1]
http://www.rense.com/general89/emem.htm LilDevil should be LilTroll more pro-per ly.
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recent GLP links -- dan, 11:15:31 01/17/10 Sun [1]
http://godssecret.wordpress.com/2009/07/12/the-vortex-one-needs-of-firm-grip-in-both-worlds/ http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message967452/pg1 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message966882/pg1 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message837367/pg1 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message966095/pg1 http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message967538/pg1
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They say Dire Wolf is dead? sounded like a Young man on radio. -- dan, 07:23:21 01/17/10 Sun [1]
I hope Dire Wolf is okay, enjoyed his radio shows. http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:PCFPAYcCl_gJ:theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D4%26t%3D9083%26p%3D34464%26sid%3D956598b9d65eab916f743847581c6e5d+from+the+bunker+direwolf&cd=20&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=xeon http://www.myspace.com/direwolf420 happy trails if he passed on.
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From the bunker-Dire Wolf and ingo swann (remote viewing-attributed to) -- dan, 06:56:56 01/17/10 Sun [1]
http://www.fromthebunker.blog.com/ http://oneheartbooks.com/resources/audios/from_the_bunker_radio.htm http://www.torrentdownloads.net/torrent/1283791/from+the+bunker-+dire+wolf+interviews+j.a.m,+mr+austin,+and+lenon+honor+(alex+911+t.v.+radio+guy) http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=xeon&rls=en&hs=XXj&q=ingo+swann&aq=0&oq=ingo+swa&aqi=g10 well mozel, no posts at 64855 since your rebuke of Earl, why? Have a look at Dire Wolf, I heard the end of a may 28th 2008 show trashing Mrw's tolle as ripping off Daoism and Wu Wei. I've condensed this post to make it brief by basicly posting links, cut and paste.
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Exerpt on the 'crotch bomber' from your abledanger link. -- dan, 19:53:14 01/16/10 Sat [1]
Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was recruited and trained by faculty at University College London to assist in a reinsurance fraud on Christmas Day.
He was a bit part actor in a Christmas Day catastrophe (‘cat’) bond fraud staged by Aon Benfield UCL Hazard Research Centre (ABUHRC) which is Europe’s leading multidisciplinary academic hazard research centre.
The ABUHRC faculty pension fund, the University Superannuation Scheme, is a co-investor with the Teachers’ (‘TIAA-CREF’) in the $55 trillion Carbon Disclosure Project launched in 2000 by Cherie “Gaia” Blair out of 10 Downing Street.
The cat bond fraud is executed through an online escrow in Chicago (the Sidley Austin law firm) which parks its friends on the winning side of the cat. In this case the investor side won because the plane carrying the Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab was not destroyed and the cat was not triggered and the sponsor lost its money. An entirely different light shed than "as seen on tv". Simply controlling the record is their strategy or should we say lying narrative. History as we know it is a lie. My strategy is dying out of this hopeless crap without creating victim progeny as the nazi broodsows do.
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mozel, it isn't complicated and you're taking the easy way out. -- dan, 19:03:15 01/16/10 Sat [1]
You've got to be strong and face this daunting challenge, oh my can you do it and what will happen should you fail? Will all be lost, will your problems grow ever worse like flailing helplessly in the eternal abyss of confounding software hell? That said, I think you're giving the problem greater weight than necessary, you're not stupid and children are playing with these things as toys, so what is it other than your giving excessive strenght to this problem that is stopping you? To hell with pulseaudio use apt-remove command and delete it. further you can always go buy a windows program and load that failing the myriad linux. It's just something that you need to learn by doing like riding a bicycle, sure there will be wrecks learning but just do it, you can and I know you can. Just download another desktop and burn to disc for back-up OS and go from there, get your back-up drive too. Why repeat myself, reinterating just do it.
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czar, Cass Sunstein -- mozel, 18:55:43 01/16/10 Sat [1]
President Obama's regulatory czar, Cass Sunstein, argued the U.S.
government should ban "conspiracy theorizing." Among the beliefs Sunstein would ban
is advocating that the theory of global warming is a deliberate fraud.
http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=121884
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@dan -- mozel, 22:26:32 01/15/10 Fri [1]
I am not MIT, I thought you knew ...
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‘Dead Peasant’ Insurance Policies -- mozel, 22:10:49 01/15/10 Fri [1]
Sunday, January 10, 2010
‘Dead Peasant’ Insurance Policies—An Incentive For Murder
When a company takes a life insurance policy on an employee, the employee may be more valuable dead than alive.
http://abeldanger.blogspot.com/
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mozel, your OS glitch is a small software problem. -- dan, 13:15:46 01/15/10 Fri [1]
Just back-up your documents on an external disk, scrub your hard drive and reload your OS, you could repartition your drive and load multi op systems. You should have a terra byte handy? Anyway, once you get it working then burn a copy of your OS system so you can reload using a cd tool. It's something that happened enough to me until I learned howto get over it. Okay, enought small talk for now.
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Wow, what's wrong? Usually no responses here right away. -- dan, 12:44:39 01/15/10 Fri [1]
Maybe you're using a social networking agent? Anyway mozel, no reason you can't have your machine running. I don't understand that, just burn a distro iso to disc, wait...news-flash... the earth is a shaking, listen to 'the news behind the news story' on republic broadcasting, they're talking about yellowstone showing activity andc animals fleeing california. fwiw
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- -- faloffal, 12:26:05 01/15/10 Fri [1]
I got a pair of decent Headphones and listened to Echoes Part 1 and 2. I know whatyoumean, dan...@ scattered
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@dan -- mozel, 12:01:39 01/15/10 Fri [1]
I broke another puter. I google all night.
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replacing pulseaudio in ubuntu -- dan, 11:11:18 01/15/10 Fri [1]
mozel, try that search in google or where's your backup system distro try puppy. Aleister, quite wordy to make a few simple points, I started reading lastnight until I couldn't see well. faloffal, okay I will try a note. My attention is scattered today so no new links.
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- -- faloffal, 15:20:56 01/14/10 Thu [1]
hey dan
watchyoutalkinbout
my email is in Profile give me a ping
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dan -- Aleister, 14:11:30 01/14/10 Thu [1]
cut and paste http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en&q=%22“The+Cloud+upon+the+Sanctuary”+%22&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8
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The Supreme Court’s Attacks on Freedom -- mozel, 12:21:25 01/14/10 Thu [1]
“[T]he ultimate touchstone of constitutionality is the Constitution itself and not what we have said about it.” -- Felix Frankfurter
The Supreme Court’s Attacks on Freedom
by George C. Leef, Posted January 8, 2010
rt 1 | Part 2
The Dirty Dozen: How Twelve Supreme Court Cases Radically Expanded Government and Eroded Freedom by Robert A. Levy and William Mellor (Sentinel, 2008); 299 pages.
Americans like lists. Most often, we get “Top Ten” lists, but this book is a top dozen list, a list of the most damaging Supreme Court decisions during and since the New Deal era. The authors, two lawyers with strong libertarian philosophies, set out to show which decisions have had the most detrimental impact by expanding the realm of government coercion and depriving people of their liberty. This, they correctly observe, is a target-rich environment. The Supreme Court has been blundering along a statist/collectivist path for many decades and each passing term brings new decisions that make constitutionalists hang their heads in despair. “Seldom,” Levy and Mellor write, “has the ratchet of the Court’s decisions turned toward greater individual liberty. To the contrary, the Court has further and further restricted the freedoms that Americans should enjoy as a birthright.”
Many readers of Freedom Daily will have their own ideas about the worst cases and are eager to see if any of them make the authors’ list. So let’s get right to the Dirty Dozen.
Helvering v. Davis (1937)
This was the case that gave the Court’s stamp of approval on Social Security and it turned on the meaning of the General Welfare Clause in Article I, Section 8, which specifies that Congress has certain powers including powers “to provide for the common defense and general welfare.” Did those words give Congress free rein to enact any law that might be said to advance “the general welfare”? Or were the words meant as a further limitation on the specific powers previously granted, in effect saying, “Congress may do these things, but only so long as they are for the general well-being of the people and not just to make a few better off at the expense of the rest”?
Alexander Hamilton had favored the former, expansive view, but James Madison argued to the contrary, observing that it would make no sense to list particular powers and then add a clause that swallows all of them up in a vague generality.
Madison’s view was the accepted one until Helvering. In 1936, Congress passed the Social Security Act and Roosevelt signed it into law. It was immediately challenged on constitutional grounds that Article I, Section 8, does not give Congress any power to set up a mandatory retirement system. The Court’s precedents would have dictated an easy win for Davis (who was suing the IRS Commissioner to avoid being forced to collect and remit the Social Security “contributions”), but instead it tossed out the precedents. Chief Justice Harlan Fiske Stone, writing for a 7-2 majority, held that the General Welfare Clause was a separate grant of power to Congress and if it thought this new “Social Security” scheme was a good idea, the Court would not stand in the way.
The implications of this case have been staggering. It opened the floodgates to unrestrained federal spending, since almost anything can be claimed to advance “the general welfare.” So long as Congress says that every new law is meant to have a good purpose, that was sufficient for the Court.
Wickard v. Filburn (1942)
This despicable decision involved the efforts of a federal official, Secretary of Agriculture Claude Wickard, to fine an Ohio farmer, Roscoe Filburn, for having grown too much wheat.
In the America of 1787, what a farmer grew on his land was no business of the federal government’s, but in the America of 1942 (and ever since), what someone grows on his land is very much the business of the federal government. If you disobey its orders, you’ll be punished.
In 1941, Filburn had grown more wheat than Department of Agriculture regulations said he could. Those regulations had been promulgated in order to depress the supply of wheat and thereby raise prices. All of Filburn’s wheat was consumed on his own farm, but that didn’t matter to the federal dictators. He had to be fined for his arrogant disregard of the law!
Ah, but where in the Constitution was there anything saying that the government could tell farmers how much they could grow? The government’s argument was that the program to raise the price of wheat was part of a regulation of interstate commerce language that is in the Constitution. If Filburn had not grown those illegal bushels of wheat, he might have purchased that same amount in the national market. By not buying in the national market, Filburn was helping to undermine the federal government’s regulatory scheme. Therefore, in telling farmers how much they could grow, the government was merely regulating interstate commerce.
The Court easily accepted that preposterous argument. By 1942, it was loaded with collectivists who could see no reason that individual liberty should get in the way of bold programs to bring the chaos of the free market under the benevolent guidance of federal bureaucrats.
Following Wickard, there was nothing to stop federal economic meddling, since nearly everything can be said to somehow “affect” interstate commerce. Distressingly, Wickard was recently reaffirmed in the Court’s decision in Gonzalez v. Raich, where the issue was whether Congress could override state laws allowing certain people to use marijuana for medical purposes. Levy and Mellor devastate the feeble logic of that decision.
Home Building and Loan v. Blaisdell (1934)
Should people be free to contract as they see fit? A contract, of course, is a mutually enforceable agreement and if politicians can intervene to stop contracts from being enforced because they feel sorry for one of the parties, then contractual freedom not to mention the concept of equality under the law has been gravely undermined.
The Constitution provides that state governments may not “impair the obligation of contracts,” but in this case the Supreme Court decided that state governments could do precisely that if they felt that they needed to. Minnesota’s legislature had passed a law preventing mortgage holders from foreclosing when borrowers failed to make their payments, thus rewriting the contracts for the benefit of the borrowers. When the Blaisdells did not pay, Home Building and Loan sued, contending that the law protecting borrowers was unconstitutional.
Clearly, it was, but the justices tortured both logic and the language of the Constitution to arrive at a contrary (but politically expedient) result. Emergencies do not create new governmental powers, wrote Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes, but he then proceeded to conclude that, in the authors’ words, “financial hardships associated with the Great Depression allowed Minnesota to do exactly what the Constitution forbids.”
Ever since Blaisdell, freedom of contract has been dying the death of a thousand cuts.
Whitman v. American Trucking Association (2001)
Bad as it is for elected politicians to pass unjust, authoritarian laws, at least they might be voted out of office if enough people get upset. When the politicians turn the lawmaking over to unelected bureaucrats, things are worse. Bureaucrats can’t be voted out. The distressing fact is that lawmaking by bureaucrats dwarfs the lawmaking by elected “representatives.”
The Constitution does not say that Congress is allowed to turn its lawmaking authority over to bureaucrats, but it has been doing so for many years. Naturally, the Supreme Court has been willing to acquiesce in that, believing that Congress needs to rely on administrative experts to make lots of regulations to control our lives. Whitman was an opportunity for the Court to apply the brakes on bureaucratic lawmaking, but it went the other way, tearing up what remained of the nondelegation principle. The justices ruled that delegation of lawmaking authority is permissible even if the standards set forth for the agency to follow are extremely vague.
After Whitman, Mellor and Levy say, “the best we can wish for is that administrative agencies will use their unconstitutional powers ‘reasonably.’ That unlikely outcome would be the triumph of hope over experience.”
McConnell v. Federal Election Commission (2003)
McConnell was the decision that proclaimed constitutional a shocking assault on the First Amendment, namely the Bipartisan Campaign Reform Act (BCRA, aka the McCain-Feingold Act). The First Amendment clearly states that Congress shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech or of the press. The BCRA places severe limits on those freedoms in political campaigns, yet when the law was challenged the Supreme Court held that it is so important to prevent “the appearance of corruption” in elections that the First Amendment would just have to be set aside. Of the decision, the authors say, “In effect, the Court rewrote the first Amendment so that it mandated fair speech, as perceived by nine justices, instead of ensuring free speech, as intended by the framers.”
This astounding decision will do nothing to stop political corruption, and may actually increase it because, as Levy and Mellor point out, one of the law’s consequences is to make it harder to successfully challenge incumbents. It is all too typical of the Court to allow wishful thinking to trump the unambiguous words of the Constitution.
United States v. Miller (1939)
This is the case that led to the idea that the Second Amendment does not protect the individual citizen’s right to keep and bear arms, but says only that governments are entitled to arm their militias. That bizarre decision led to many draconian anti-gun laws around the country and lower court decisions upholding them.
Fortunately, the recent decision in District of Columbia v. Heller, in which the Court rejected the “collective right” theory of the Second Amendment, takes Miller off the list of the worst cases. Even though the Court did not expressly overrule Miller, Heller rebukes the strange interpretation of the Second Amendment in that case as pertaining only to “militias.”
Korematsu v. United States (1944)
Political “liberals” are forever prattling away that “we” are guilty of sins against various groups, but you don’t often hear them talking about one of the ugliest occurrences in American history the internment of Japanese-Americans during World War II. It was ordered by the sainted Franklin D. Roosevelt to appease public opinion that had been inflamed by race-baiters on the West Coast. The rights of 120,000 people, most of whom were American citizens, were flagrantly violated and yet when the validity of Roosevelt’s executive order was challenged, the Supreme Court meekly upheld it on the grounds that during emergencies, political authorities must have a free hand to protect the nation. Therefore, due process of law can be ignored.
Decades later (in 1983), a congressional commission reported that the internment was not justified by any military necessity, but rather was the product of “race prejudice, war hysteria and a failure of political leadership.” Nevertheless, Korematsu remains good law, a Supreme Court precedent for other “emergency” measures that deprive people of their rights without due process of law.
That’s why Korematsu is still worrisome. As Mellor and Levy write, “Today, suspensions of constitutional protections are defended on the same grounds that the Japanese internment was justified: national security.” The door is open to heavy-handed abuse of individuals during “emergencies” (which may well become the rule rather than the exception) if officials merely suspect them to be somehow associated with terrorism.
Bennis v. Michigan (1996)
This case gave Supreme Court approval to the odious practice of civil-asset forfeiture. Under civil-asset forfeiture laws, government officials are entitled to seize a person’s assets because he was either somehow involved in criminal behavior, or his property was. The theory that “guilty property” can be taken by government goes back centuries, but in recent years it has been expanded to the point where officials look to asset seizures as a means of padding their budgets. It encourages predatory behavior by law-enforcement agents. In Bennis, the Supreme Court could have blown the whistle but did not.
The facts: John and Tina Bennis were married and jointly owned a car. In October 1998 Detroit police officers saw a woman they believed to be a prostitute “flagging cars.” One vehicle stopped, the driver allowing her to get in. The police followed the car at a distance. When it stopped, they approached and found the driver and the woman engaged in sexual activity. John Bennis, the driver, was arrested for indecency and the police confiscated the car under Michigan law.
But what about Tina Bennis? The car was half hers and she had committed no violation of law. Could the government seize property owned by an innocent person? The Court said yes, relying solely on precedent. Chief Justice William Rehnquist wrote, “The cases authorizing actions of the kind at issue are too firmly fixed in the punitive and remedial jurisprudence of the country now to be displaced.” Four justices strongly dissented, but the damage was done.
Bennis has very disturbing implications, among them that people who have done nothing illegal not having committed so much as a victimless crime can lose their property because of the illegal conduct of someone else. Also, the case gives the green light to rogue government officials to target nondangerous activities such as prostitution, where the chance to hit the jackpot by seizing high-value property is good.
United States v. Carolene Products (1938)
For 70 years the Supreme Court has adhered to a doctrine that places some rights on a pedestal and others on the floor where government officials may trample upon them as much as they please. In general, “economic” rights are in the latter class. If politicians want to create monopolies, ban the sale of products, impose absurd licensing requirements, or do other things that obstruct commerce, the Court has said, “That’s no concern of ours let them do it.”
Carolene Products was a New Deal case that put on clear display the Supreme Court’s indifference to economic liberty. Congress had passed a statute called the Filled Milk Act, which prohibited interstate shipment of “filled milk” an evaporated-milk product made from skim milk and coconut oil. It had the same taste, odor, color, and cooking properties as regular evaporated milk but cost less. Responding to complaints from the dairy industry, Congress wiped out interstate competition, declaring that filled milk was injurious to the public health. That was just political window-dressing for the blatant act of destroying competition from a product that consumers had safely used for many years. It was nothing but special-interest legislation.
Counsel for Carolene Products showed that there was absolutely no evidence of any harm to consumers from filled milk. Too bad, but the Supreme Court was not interested in such facts. Chief Justice Harland Stone wrote that while some cases call for “strict scrutiny” of legislation, others call upon the Court only to ascertain whether there might be a “rational basis” for it. The mere freedom to sell a product was not important enough to demand “strict scrutiny.” This meant that Congress and state legislatures would not be impeded in passing even the most egregiously anti-competitive laws. The result of the Court’s “rational basis” jurisprudence that is, its declared indifference to economic meddling has been, Mellor and Levy write, “an avalanche of special interest legislation.”
Kelo v. City of New London (2005)
The Fifth Amendment states that private property may be taken by government only for public use, and then only if just compensation is paid to the owner. That language, allowing the camel of statist greed to get its nose under the private-property tent, was never very clear, and over the years, what was intended as a bulwark against the abuse of eminent domain has eroded to almost nothing. We have the Supreme Court to thank for that.
In Kelo, the Court might have repaired the defenses but instead weakened them. The City of New London, Connecticut, wanted to seize a lot of riverfront property so that a private development with offices, a hotel, shops, and upscale condos could go in. It was a classic case of government officials drooling for increased tax revenue and taking land away from homeowners who paid relatively little in taxes so that businesses that would pay much more in taxes could have it instead. Suzette Kelo complained that the taking was unconstitutional because it was not for a public use. Unfortunately, a majority of the justices disagreed, holding that the taking was permissible because it was supposed to have a public purpose.
Justice John Paul Stevens declared that “economic development” was a key government function and thus if some people had to give up their property for the supposed “greater good” of the community, the Fifth Amendment did not stand in the way. New London therefore could take Kelo’s home for its “revitalization” project (which, incidentally, is languishing). Even Justice Sandra Day O’Connor, usually one to defer to the supposed expertise of government planners, couldn’t go along, writing, “Nothing is to prevent the state from replacing any Motel 6 with a Ritz-Carlton, any home with a shopping center, or any farm with a factory.”
Kelo means that so long as they follow certain formalities, politicians can take any property they want. The Founders certainly did not intend government to have such power, but the Court is more concerned with the illusory benefits of government coercion than with the rights of individual property owners.
Penn Central v. New York (1978)
Penn Central is another property-rights case, but involving a “regulatory taking” rather than eminent domain. Governments can and often do regulate a property in such a way as to greatly lower its value sometimes to virtually nothing. When it does so, must it compensate the owner? How far can government go before it has gone “too far” and must pay?
Following a merger in 1968 with the New York Central Railroad, Penn Central became the owner of Grand Central Terminal in New York City. The company wanted to construct an office building over the terminal. Another 50-story structure in New York: What could be the problem with that? New York City’s Landmarks Preservation Law, that’s what. A commission had been given the task of identifying buildings that were “landmarks,” and once a building was so designated, the owners could not alter it in any way without the approval of the commission. Penn Central’s plans for the new structure were submitted to the commission, but it rejected them, costing the company around $150 million in annual revenues. It sued.
When the case reached the Supreme Court, the justices had to decide whether New York had to compensate the company if it enforced its “landmark” regulation. Justice William Brennan’s majority opinion ruled in favor of the city. Mellor and Levy comment, Brennan’s characterization makes compensation depend on the elusive notion of what is just and fair. But the language of the Fifth Amendment presupposes that compensation is required unless the government can demonstrate otherwise.
Worse still, Brennan’s opinion pivoted on the idea that in cases of this sort, the focus should be on the value that still remains after the regulation rather than on the value that has been lost.
As a result of Penn Central, governments around the nation have been given almost unfettered discretion to regulate away the value of private property. One favored technique is to impose moratoria on permission to develop land where one “temporary” restriction follows another and the owner never gets to build.
Grutter v. Bollinger (2003)
Should governmental institutions be allowed to establish classes of citizens and treat some differently than others? For instance, under the “Jim Crow” laws, governments in the South used to require that whites and blacks be treated differently in many respects. Those laws were declared invalid under the Fourteenth Amendment’s Equal Protection Clause years ago, but what if governments choose to adopt “affirmative action” programs that set different admission standards for applicants to state universities depending on their race? Is it acceptable to replace the “bad” discrimination of Jim Crow with the “good” discrimination of programs that aim to increase “diversity”?
That was the issue in two cases involving the University of Michigan. Gratz v. Bollinger involved the admissions standards for undergraduates and Grutter v. Bollinger involved the admission standards used by the university’s law school. Both gave preferences based on the race of the applicant (for blacks, Hispanics, and American Indians), but the undergraduate system was very mechanical, automatically assigning a certain number of points simply on the basis of ethnicity. The law school’s system, however, was designed to look more “holistic” that is, its preferences were adroitly masked by professed interest in vague qualities such as “leadership.”
The Supreme Court ruled that the undergraduate admission policy was unconstitutional, since it focused too much on race, while the law school’s policy was permissible. The Court uncritically accepted the law school’s assertion that it needed a “diverse” student body in order to reap the alleged educational benefits of having differing views expressed in class. Whereas the Court had traditionally required “strict scrutiny” of any law that classified people by race, in Grutter it didn’t bother with any scrutiny at all, merely taking the university’s word that racial preferences to achieve “diversity” were good.
This decision has the potential for weakening constitutional rights in an array of settings. For example, freedom of speech may be undermined. What if, the authors write, “a university determines that some purported educational benefit might be derived from its suppression?” The Court has already undermined the First Amendment with the notion that the “compelling governmental interest” in “fair” elections trumps free speech and now we have the “compelling governmental interest” in diversity on the loose, threatening other rights.
There you have them the dirty dozen: Twelve cases (now only eleven, but there are many contenders for inclusion; my own favorite is Jones & Laughlin Steel v. NLRB, the 1937 case that okayed the horribly authoritarian National Labor Relations Act) that have done tremendous damage to our freedom by expanding the power of government.
At the next confirmation hearing for a Supreme Court justice, I hope to see senators thumbing through The Dirty Dozen hunting for tough questions to ask the nominee. There is an abundance of material in it to help sort the libertarian, pro-individual-rights wheat from the statist, pro-government chaff. And if you are one who wants to understand how so much of our liberty has been whittled away, this book goes a long way toward answering that question.
George C. Leef is the director of the Pope Center for Higher Education Policy in Raleigh, North Carolina, and book review editor of The Freeman. Send him email
http://www.fff.org/freedom/fd0909g.asp
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I noticed the legal tender case was not listed. Oh, well, what country needs money when it has lawyers with paper ?
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@dan @LOL -- mozel, 12:16:26 01/14/10 Thu [1]
Things are breaking faster than my scamper. Pulseaudio - I don't really understand, but now it's embedded and locks stuff. It's a techno nightmare on my desktop ...
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mozel, how is it that you know about live linux systems and have a/v trouble? -- dan, 03:36:33 01/14/10 Thu [1]
That doesn't reconcile. You should know howto clone drives using linux and back-up your OS to an external drive image. Since your machine is working the problem isolates to either drivers or codecs or player, perhaps VLC player offers an easy solution to your problem? Further you could use a usb stick OS or say portable apps for instance; so there's really no good reason you're being impeded. Let's get up to speed here please.)))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) Since I was talking to someone on the phone I suspect faloffal is a handle of theirs, maybe I'm wrong about that? I always thought faloffal was a canadian poster however the other person I was talking to is american. I have little contact with other posters beyond the etheric text boards and that is my objection is that the internet is unreal substantively in relation to the real? world, however unreal it is. Anyway that's why I didn't respond to faloffal and it may be coincidental that faloffal posted while I was talking to another poster and if so I apologize.
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@dan -- mozel, 01:38:14 01/14/10 Thu [1]
My audio and video are hosed up since upgrading, but I'll check out your links when I get the machine squared away.
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Tonight's responses and a couple links from radio if interested -- dan, 19:17:28 01/13/10 Wed [1]
Okay tonight's link relates to a radio show talking about where are all the 911 pentagon witnesses? The initial search url to video is www.combatreform.org/911pentagonrealitycheck.htm others are http://www.bollywoodsargam.com/video_todayfeaturedvideo.php?blockbustermovieclip=gPhw-Q7DD-Y----The_9%2F11_Reality_Check%2C_Part_1%3A_Where_are_ALL_the_Witnesses%3F_featured_hollywood_blockbuster_video.html and of course use the link http://www.combatreform.org/911pentagonrealitycheck.htm ))) Next are responses, Aleister's link relates to tarot cards. LilDevil posts videos regarding 2001 a space odessey and norwegian wood song, btw i had a dream of having met a japanese woman and ihuasca, maybe it was because a podcast on ihuasca was playing. http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/enclosure/2009-12-28T00_35_44-08_00.mp3 and just shorten the url for the podcast page http://gnosticmedia.podomatic.com/ Now rb, I checked earlier and no mail, well okay no worries . Then mozel, I don't go overboard with anything, however the sequence of jesus the quickening spirit come in the flesh "pray that I go quickly that I may send the comforter (Holy spirit) unto you" is correct per experience.
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dan -- rb, 13:30:31 01/13/10 Wed [1]
Happy new year to you as well, seems time has'nt moved, the weather here is cool and it could be snowning in the alps as soon as next week and its summer. Haven't seen the snow here anyway and its only live a few hundred miles away, don't interest me the snow, seem like an axis shift again in cycle. Yes i will email but i don't like to pester you in mail, cheers.
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brightness -- mozel, 13:29:54 01/13/10 Wed [1]
With every spiritual gift you receive the evidence of My love, for you
shall not remain in darkness, you shall increase in light and strength, in
realisation and strong will and live and work on earth accordingly. For every
activity in blindness of spirit, in wrong thinking, is worthless for the
soul, and since it is My will that your soul shall mature on earth your
activity must have a purpose, which only the light of realisation can achieve.
And thus time and again I will enlighten you where it is still dark in you.
I will instruct you truthfully and repeatedly pour out My spirit over you
as soon as you present Me the opened vessel so that I can fill it when your
heart longs for My Words.
You very often still shelter misguided thoughts, especially when you
cannot let go of knowledge, of concepts, which did not come to you by way of the
spirit, which cannot be called the 'working of the spirit' but which were
intellectually acquired and possibly even combined with spiritual findings,
on account of which you don't question its truth.
But it is not pure truth and therefore you cannot attain complete
clarification until you let go of this mental knowledge, until you are willing to
abandon it, because only then will there be brightness in you which will
illuminate every corner of your heart.
from B.D. 6875
— Published by friends of new revelations of God —
http://www.bertha-dudde.info/english/index.html
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Norwegian Wood -- lived lil, 10:28:15 01/13/10 Wed [1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3cUejOltsA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v5sbS0hqEdU&feature=related999
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mONoliTh -- lived lil, 10:12:12 01/13/10 Wed [1]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y15NnGZIBuM
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rb and Aleister -- dan, 09:36:42 01/13/10 Wed [1]
Aleister, I'll look at your link later, thanks. rb, apologies and Happy New Year; however I had looked a couple months ago and no e-mail so I didn't know what to think. However the box your e-mail is on is part of a service I stopped using, that being the case use the online samdnorrisc@yahoo.com and I'll write. What I should do is write your e-mail down in a paper address book and suggest the same back to you. I've abandoned speculating since the nat gas fiasco. Go ahead and write it's me.
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dan -- rb, 18:35:35 01/12/10 Tue [1]
Dan lost all data on the last computer, got a lap top now, thought you were going to send a xmass message, did'nt come. But anyway is no problem.. Yeah your emcumbered by evil im still surrounded by evil, im happy the sugar deal went allright with you, take a lot patients holding these bets. Things ok with me guitar playin getting better each day a lot of confidence is settin in. I don't want to lose my way with nature. Good to see you postin some magic.
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can't hot link hu? -- Aleister, 18:06:39 01/12/10 Tue [1]
http://www.magick.co.za/The22AtuIntroduction.html
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dan -- Aleister, 18:05:36 01/12/10 Tue [1]
perhaps you should include <A rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.magick.co.za/The22AtuIntroduction.html">THIS</A> with your study of Gnosticism.
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it's come to, or has been brought to my attention that; -- dan, 14:13:33 01/12/10 Tue [1]
I've been fooled as-to the identity of posters, that in fact there are multi-handled poster(s) that I didn't know about. What can I say. Since I'm posting I'll mention try searching gnostic media and unexplained mysteries as well as peace revolution which you'll find included in the gnostic media podcasts. here's a link that you should explore the author's posts. http://www.unexplained-mysteries.com/column.php?id=118335 the whole idea is looking further, looking beyond as opposed to not looking or refusing to look. interesting idea and maybe something to consider.
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- -- faloffal, 12:29:38 01/12/10 Tue [1]
Hey Dan,
just sayin' Hello
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dan -- jinx, 17:18:50 01/11/10 Mon [1]
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&rls=en&q=%22hunab+ku%22+ophiuchus+dark+rift&aq=f&oq=&aqi=
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@dan -- mozel, 18:16:21 01/10/10 Sun [1]
Peace and Grace be unto you by the Lord Jesus of Nazareth ...
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@ "..........You all better hope it isn't incoming........." -- live dlil, 21:08:44 01/08/10 Fri [1]
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Nothing is coming from space,
not in 2010 10 10,
not in 2011 11 11 and
not in 2012 12 12.
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Round and round and round we go when it stop nobody knows.
Contemplate on this:
7,500 galaxies stretching back through most of the universe's history. The closest galaxies seen in the foreground emitted their observed light about a billion years ago. The farthest galaxies, a few of the very faint red specks, are seen as they appeared more than 13 billion years ago, or roughly 650 million years after the Big Bang....................more
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/hubble/science/south-view.html
http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/415411main_south-field-full.jpg
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dan -- handy dandy, 18:35:06 01/08/10 Fri [1]
interesting piece here. it should compliment your understanding......
http://www.projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html
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Here's the post being discussed regarding possible incoming object. -- dan, 22:47:26 01/07/10 Thu [1]
I'll leave it to readers to research and decide, but load the video that was deleted from you tube and "search the coordinates" given "that you may prove all things" http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/2009_12_27_archive.html#9063416839465057380 You all better hope it isn't incoming as you freeze due to "global warming" "they say", well you think??? handy dandy and LilDevil??? 64855 reminds me of the fall of saigon scene from "the Deerhunter" where they gambled their lives away, it was the thrill of the chase don'cha know and obsession. Home? in this transient world, I know people try and know better at the same time. It is an illusion impossible to sustain. Don't provoke me to comment because I cannot lie to you and compliment your delusions concerning this world.
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dan WISE --- Now Open -- livedlil, 17:19:49 01/07/10 Thu [1]
A new WISE infrared image was taken shortly after the space telescope's cover was removed, exposing the instrument's detectors to starlight for the first time...............
....................When the WISE survey begins, the spacecraft will scan the sky continuously as it circles the globe, while an internal scan mirror counteracts its motion. This allows WISE to take "freeze-frame" snapshots every 11 seconds, resulting in millions of images of the entire sky................
http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/WISE/news/wise20100106.html
<IMG src="http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/415699main_wise20100106-226.jpg">
Hi-res http://www.nasa.gov/images/content/415701main_wise20100106-full.tif
PS Please call home http://www.voy.com/64855/
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dan -- handy dandy, 12:56:46 01/07/10 Thu [1]
I need more proof. There's just a lot of bullshit out there pushing an agenda. After Y2K everything is suspect. Look what the archons did with that one.
Don't you think it's about time that you start clicking the decoder ring on that other forum?
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handy dandy and LilDevil, perhaps further inquiry? -- dan, 02:37:04 01/07/10 Thu [1]
First, I considered the disinfo idea and dismissed it, there is also a video posted in dec 31 page of patrots cave . blogspot.com which shows an object. Now consider the stars are mapped and if something is there it would be obvious so they would black it out, also I suspect the blacked out area is moving with the object. Now you have recent vatican interest in astronomy and as you know they controlled history and would know cc hunab ka and nb alta 1309. Perhaps look further before dismissing or by 5au everybody knows and everybody knows there's seed vaults and deep underground bases
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dan -- handy dandy, 21:16:43 01/06/10 Wed [1]
why is 5h 53m 27s, -6 10' 58 blacked out on google sky???? -- dan
there's a lot of black ops 'going down' out there. this seems to be another disinformation campaign being used for nefarious reasons.
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gnitset -- livedlil, 20:29:24 01/06/10 Wed [1]
efil rof 999
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why is 5h 53m 27s, -6 10' 58 blacked out on google sky???? -- dan, 21:06:00 01/05/10 Tue [1]
see for yourself and try using google sky on those coordinates; this link will explain http://patriotscave.blogspot.com/search?updated-min=2009-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&updated-max=2010-01-01T00%3A00%3A00-05%3A00&max-results=50 well try dec 31 post on patriots cave because probably I'm wasting my time posting this anyway.
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Thanks mozel! and Happy! New Year! to you as well! -- dan, 05:54:49 01/05/10 Tue [1]
here's a google return on voy http://google.com/safebrowsing/diagnostic?site=voy.com/ I happened to look at 218910 and someone was posting using dan, I note LilDevil and 2=pt. appear coincidentally and that LilDevil talked about posting at the outcasts 218910 about the same time the dan handle posted there, however it wasn't me. What I've thought about doing is changing my handle so that I could post anon aside from being identified as dan, however it appears there are now dan plural given others using that handle. What is bad is being targeted for what you have to say with browsers like flock for instance that can monitor sites for handle activity. So maybe another handle is in order. I think I've given up chasing illusive wealth in this fleet-ing life and re-consider riches as health, friends, satisfaction and enjoyment of life and minimise the value of financial wealth relatively. Give me true wealth instead of pursuit of illusory wealth and I think you'd concur and agree with me on that. It's all too easy to obsess on negative pursuits when instead we should sieze upon realising what positive things we can and enjoy them. I do enjoy posting critiques of commonly held assumptions however.
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Hi, Dan -- mozel, 16:46:20 01/04/10 Mon [1]
Happy New Year ! Beware the linguistic reasoners ... they proliferate ... especially around discussions of legal and why ...
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Listen to Mike talk about the hive. -- dan, 22:39:18 01/03/10 Sun [1]
This is very good; more and more everything I posted about is surfacing. http://www.redicecreations.com/radio/2009/12dec/RIR-091203.php What I don't have a link for is Dire Wolf talking about the facist policestates the world over, that was probably on revere radio or anomaly radio maybe over twelve hous ago. But I awoke listening to this podcast that was so good I had to post it. Now recall I posted "planet of the apes is real and so is dawn of the dead" both movie themes are abstractions of society. I hate this goddamned "world", what a pile of shit and clusterfvck sex and death cult, really and truly literal tranced zombies lacking any real individuation and merely components of a hive ala "the borg". Anyway have some mind candy, the above podcast link that is.
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