gold extraction, refining, and assay in mozelland And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather expose them.
But all things that are exposed are made manifest by the light, for whatever makes manifest is light. - Eph. 5:11, 13
shalom Yehudi. erev tov. do you understand what Mozel writes on kitco? i went to school. i took english. i graduated with honors. i do not understand what he writes. do they teach the goys english? what a waste of time. what bothers me more are the Jews on kitco who pretend they are not and play along with the jesus-trash nazis. they are equivalent to the nazi collaborators during the War. they make me sick to my stomach. not one of them stands up and defends the Jews from the hatred on that board. they are trash like the rest.
Shalom, JewBoy. Boker tov. Let's see how the goys take the heat like they have been dishing out. This Mozel chap seems like a nice guy but he's a jesusfreak and there's no cure except to put him to work for the Jews. The more of them contributing to the support of Israel the better.
Smythe. honest hard workers? try spending less time at the rodeo and bars and get yourself an education. you are a dimwit and the Jews love dimwits to carry out their plans. here's a fact for you. at least 30% of your lowly earnings goes to a Jew somewhere. you are a slave and will remain a slave until you die. maybe jesus will get your money back but you will still be a dimwit. misery and poverty for the underclass is a just reward for your stupidity. go to work and fill the pockets of the Jews. do not forget to also leave what is left of your money in the plate at church. LOL . you are truly fucked. between jesus and the Jews you do not stand a chance.
There you have it. Finally they admit to controlling the banking cartel and therefore the FED, and so they gloat over how they steal from honest hardworking people via inflation, and they have no qualms on how these honest hard workers have to slave for nearly six months in every year to pay for the tax on the paper promises. They eventually bring only misery and poverty. These people deserve all the hell that periodically comes their way. They never learn and are doomed to repeat the past ad infinitum. For one day those workers will rise and dust off the guillotine and then you will hear the pips squeak.
maytag. we kikes have the field? we run the whole fucking global banking system you prick. did you learn to hate Jews because the priest who was sodomizing you whispered in your how evil they were? like Mozel says, if you can't stand the heat, get out of the foundry
[ Edit | View ] Jew -- Maytag, 18:55:21 06/11/06 Sun [1]
You weren't retired soldier either when you became Franklin. Then, eat crow time. I'm slinking away. The kikes have the field, but it's a small one man army. lol
shalom, Moishe. these goys are all the same. they are not happy until you bend them over, shove a statue of jesus up their ass and hand them a budweiser. i'm surprised these illiterate jesus-trash nazi posters know how to write
[ Edit | View ] TOP HAT -- Moishe Steinberg, 18:03:04 06/11/06 Sun [1]
You must really be stupid to think that everyone who identifies himself as a Jew could be Franklin, that is the problem with so called "Christian" rednecks. They are as stupid as they think everyone else is.
the internet is cawling with nazis and anti-semetic jesus assholes. damn right the Jews run the planet. can you imagine these cockroaches running things? the Hebrew G_d pisses on your kind. soon you will be sprayed.
Goldstein, it wasn't me who tried to kill your race. Get over it. You and Jesse need some attitude readjustment.
OK, you are not Franklin (snikker). So go enjoy your son and grandkids for a couple of days. And don't believe everyone is as slow-witted as you are Franklin.
Why should a JEW NOT display a little militent pride? After all idiots like yourself and Hitler,Stalin,Arafat and the rest of your "Heros" have been trying to wipe us out all through history.
[ Edit | View ] TOP HAT -- Joe Goldstein, 07:25:55 06/11/06 Sun [1]
You sould like the dizzneyschmuck in disguise, I am not Retired Soldier or anyone else. I was not in the Army.
I see there are folks trying to put restriction what is said on this forum ... oh my ... and then they go back to Kitco an complain about "complaining"
This is really funny game ... and thus have a good luck with new "Gold forum" which is not really that ... just another bitch and moan forum ...
The rabid anti-semite "Normandy Revulsion" AKA Fat Man and several other handles has to say on the subject.
[ Edit | View ] Maytag -- Joe Goldstein, 09:26:40 06/10/06 Sat [1]
Good Marks for you! Most if the idiots that use that term are using 'CODE" really meaning Israel supporters, Zionists, Militent Jews etc, which of course anyone with any sense at all knows if false.
Neoconservatism (or neocon) refers to the political movement, ideology, and public policy goals of "new conservatives" in the United States, that are relatively unopposed to "big government" principles and believe in limited restrictions on social spending.
The prefix "neo" can denote that many of the movement's founders, originally liberals, Democrats or from socialist backgrounds, were new to conservatism, but can also refer to the comparatively recent emergence of this "new wave" of conservative thought, which coalesced in the early 1970s from a variety of intellectual roots in the decades following World War II. It also serves to distinguish the ideology from the viewpoints of "old" or traditional American conservatism.
Only if they can give a concise definition of neo-con, which I have never seen by all the so called "enlightened" dim wits who have tried. Take your best shot.
I have to agree that disney doesn't own any gold or gold
stocks - if you even just casually go through his buys
and sells he has to have lost a lot of money if he had
eg his recommendation to purchase drooy at 1.58 - while
every other gold stock is up 30-40% drooy is down alot -
disney has been the greatest contrary indicator there
has ever been - if he is not allowed to post on kitco
after their reorganization it will be the loss of a
quite accurate indicator.
I didn't know his wife was Jewish but going through the
kitco archives he indeed has said she was - the question
is then - how could someone married to a Jewish wife be so
anti-semitic - maybe it is just another indicator of his
mental pathology.
As all posts which contain the name disney seem to get
deleted - I want to be on record that calvf, pmu, slglf,
cghi and some other 'gold option' stocks did well the last
upswing and hopefully will this next upswing when it happens.
of the other
I was fortunate enough to have started buying gold in the 1960s, sold off a lot in the first big runup in the 70s, bought much more after it crashed buying more in the upper 270s thru 350s holding for much higher prices now.
Best advice I can give on goldmarket is that IF you bought before the runup past 500 you are a fool to sell any just yet.
I would watch carefully to see if it goes below 500 now before buying any.
I know its not breaking news about the Disneyschmuck, hopefully he will be one of the ones to GO when Bart makes changes,failing that he should be publicly censured for his endless attacks on anyone to he disagrees with in his "Superior Intellectual Prowess" (GAG) This also applies toabout 15 others (Mostly expat Americans and a few unenlightened Canadians,and east coasters,1 or 2 Aussies and some Fremchmen.
All this inflation talk is a desperate jawbone to offset the yen carry trade unwinding ,as Japan tightens. But further out on the yield curve there is no co-operation for out there yields are falling. Oh my ! Now what ? Banks cannot function with inverted yield curve, and the FED CANNOT allow their paper(toilet) to go unsold. Check mate.....
The worldwide fight back from the third world to gain control of their own resources spreads to Africa. Bad luck that the govt gets control, but 1st step to disown the guys who stole it in the first place :
"In round figures (and De Beers does not disclose the matter precisely) what with mining taxes, diamond taxes, profit shares and so on, De Beers was only being left with some 20% of the profits generated by the Botswana mines. The figures are complicated to say the least – that helps explain why agreement took two years to conclude – but the latest agreement has increased the government’s share of the pie. De Beers is now having to scrape by with a share of the Botswana revenues now running at 17% to 18%. "
Those investment banks who own the FED get the inside dope before anyone else on monetary policy as well as holding the auctions of the treasury bonds. In addition those banks run those Caribbean hedge funds that front up the bond demand carnies, regardless of the stooges that are offered up(probably by the banks) to be nominally chosen as FED committee members by a bunch of politicians who would not know a piece of gold from a slab of lead. The investment banks control the whole money changing/usury operation that robs honest people of their savings. We know who are in charge of the investment banks. The usual suspects. The same guys who run laundry operations in Las Vegas and the same guys who have the media sewn up. All purchased with the ill gotten usury gains from the sweat of the honest working stiffs.
gangster Stephen Flemmi claimed yesterday that the more blood he spilled with his partner in crime James WhiteyBulger, the bigger their FBI fan club grew." click here ...
and, unless coined and circulated on demand, drains the civil society of wealth, if incorruptibility and true one by one accounting are essential attributes of wealth. People whose time horizon is lunchtime never will understand this. It's like a coded message on a public facade. All the knowledge beyond our understanding is secret knowledge to us. The natural aristocracy does not need ciphers for their secrets, though they may for their safety. Their secrets remain secret even when displayed in plain view. It's only political aristocracies which depend on codes for purposes of political domination by lesser breeds.
If gold in a central bank vault constitutes a warchest, so does gold in your pocket or hiding place.
Using the phrase in making some comparison to 1929 is an example of cyber puerility. These days have about as much in common with 1929 as a Punch and Judy puppet show has with Star Wars. The sighted world must be becoming more and more incredibly alien to the blind, as the sighted assimilate their consciousness to the e-waves of the electronic soup. Western culture has been removed, by the psyops controllers and their commerical associates, from the libraries, salons, stages, and manicured gardens of the Enlightenment to what was originally condemned as a great wasteland. This cybernalia and crime, by which I do not mean the terrorism mythos covered in electronic soup, are connected. As the chaos of voices of the godless heathen fundamentally ignorant cavorting merrily in the electronic soup drown out any theme sound from the history of man, nihilism advances, even without being enunciated. Assimilation of mankind to brutish life in the cultural wasteland of unrestrained appetites advances. Because its deordorized and not nasty and extended not short, it seems to the assimilated to be better. But really it's only better in the same sense that a show dog has it better than a farm dog.
animated feature starring Bernanke reminded me of scenes from the Cargo Cult documentary.
Now that the financial rubicon to Never Never Land has been crossed, which was the significance of the earlier episode entitled "Congress and Treasury throw Fannie & Freddie and Lifeline", the writers seem stumped and the special effects budget seems paltry beside the requirments.
I think the answer may lie in allowing more agencies than merely the CIA and the DOD to write their own checks.
People have become obsessed with the Fed. I suppose the fact it's one of the few outfits in town that still publishes financial reports explains this. But they need to get Bernanke out of the spotlight. He looks too much like the Lenin Meme. The Fed ought to suspend reporting all the M's not simply M3. The media would leave the Fed alone if it would just stop publishing numbers. Its attention would naturally gravitate to the economists and confidence could be made safe.
"International Monetary Fund (IMF) seems to have had apparently directed member central banks to double-count their gold when it had been leased or swapped or otherwise had left a central bank’s vault or possession".
I really would rather not get into name calling, so cool it. I will.
Here are some facts regarding ownership of the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve is an independent agency of the United States Government. The Chairman of the Fed is appointed by the President of the United States, subject to approval of congress. (435 members, not foreigners).
[quote] Ownership of stock of the Bank, issued to member depository institutions in accordance with law, ... Bylaws, Federal Reserve Bank. [/quote] http://www.newyorkfed.org/aboutthefed/ny_bylaws.html
This guy has it down pretty good. Of course, he could be just a screwy as MacFadden. You probably know some screwy congressmen... Cunningham, DeLay, Gingrich, etc. http://www.usagold.com/FederalReserve.html
I'm a cretin because I tell a truth? Your truth is... is... far from true.
So we disagree. If we disagree then, you're an asshole? Can you point me to some documentation which proves what you say? I don't mean some other guys opinion either. PLEASE don't post links to the nut sites.
These cretins make a fact free rebuttal. Then they smear. Part of their debating ploy. So we present them with some more referenced facts. Then we wait for the fact free rebuttal and the smear and then we present more facts. In this way the public decides for themselves who the clown is. It is like baiting a monkey.
The NY FED owns the other branches of the FED. Not so strange, you would think. Only the cretins would suggest that this is impossible :
"The individuals listed below owned banks which in turn owned shares in the FED. The banks listed below have significant control over the New York FED District, which controls the other 11 FED Districts. These banks also are partly foreign owned and control the New York FED District Bank. (Reference 22)
First National Bank of New York James Stillman National City Bank, New York Mary W. Harnman
National Bank of Commerce, New York A.D. Jiullard
Hanover National Bank, New York Jacob Schiff
Chase National Bank, New York Thomas F. Ryan Paul Warburg William Rockefeller Levi P. Morton M.T. Pyne George F. Baker Percy Pyne Mrs. G.F. St. George J.W. Sterling Katherine St. George H.P. Davidson J.P. Morgan (Equitable Life/Mutual Life) Edith Brevour T. Baker (Reference 4 for above, Reference 22 has details, P. 92, 93, 96, 179)
How did it happen? After previous attempts to push the Federal Reserve Act through Congress, a group of bankers funded and staffed Woodrow Wilson's campaign for President. He had committed to sign this act. In 1913, a Senator, Nelson Aldrich, maternal grandfather to the Rockefellers, pushed the Federal Reserve Act through Congress just before Christmas when much of Congress was on vacation (Reference 3, 4, 5). When elected, Wilson passed the FED. Later, Wilson remorsefully replied (referring to the FED), "I have unwittingly ruined my country" (Reference 17, P. 31).
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<a rel=nofollow target=_blank href="http://www.apfn.org/APFN/fed_reserve.htm">click here
I agree 100 percent about the death of Kitco. The place is taken over by communists who believe they would be the controlling interest of the "party" because of their superior knowledge and beliefs. They are first class forum busters.
Thmann by his posts, is the most despicable person I've ever known... and others, RIP, bw, Disney, Albrich the Nazi, Silverain - Disneys ass kisser and lap dog, Pete, Cometose... all really weird people. I doubt any other than Disney owns any PM's or gold/silver. It's really sad.
If that was all the phoney sonsabitches were doing no problem,we know how to use slings too. But Car Bombs,Explosive vests,stinger type weapons or rockets used by anyone (even some girls and women lately)over 12 years old that thinks he?she will have 72 virgins or "studs" to her/himself is sheer stupidity on their part. Like they say you dont go to a gunfight with a knife. If you cant read the news STFU.
Your post accounts for the NY Federal Reserve member bank. What about the other eleven banks? What shares do they own? Dallas, San Francisco, Denver, etc. Well, they each OWN (I use the word loosely) at least 1/12th of the FED. Your post accounts for only one member bank out of twelve. If the bad guys owned ALL of the NY bank, (which they don't and never did own the interests you mention) it would still amount to only 1/12th of the FED. Each FED bank is owned by the member banks in it's district, or 1/12 interest per district.
The power of the Internet. You guys actually believe the crap you read.
[ Edit | View ] Israel -- Joe Moer, 13:04:38 06/05/06 Mon [1]
Uses F-16s that they bummed off others to blast guys chucking rocks. Sure they win all their wars. A true bunch of cowards.
As you dumb shits think we do, the world would be a much better place.
1. Homosexuality is considered an "abomination" in the eyes of G-d.
2. We know how to fight and win wars when attacked.
3. Guys like Pat Robertson, and all the other phoney "Super Christian Evangelicals" would not be fleecing the "Rednecks" and trailer trash out of their beer money.
4. AND last but not least, the best Medical Doctors are usually Jewish.
Who are the owners or chief shareholders of the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank? Originally, there were reportedly 203,053 shares of privately owned Federal Reserve Bank stock, of which approximately 65% were owned by foreigners and approximately 35% (72,000 shares) were owned by:
1. Rockefellers’ National City Bank = 30,000 shares
2. Chase National = 6,000 shares (currently Chase Manhattan and owned by David Rockefeller)
3. The National Bank of Commerce = 21,000 shares (now known as Morgan Guaranty Trust)
4. Morgans’ First national Bank = 15,000 shares
Interestingly, the total shares owned by Rockefellers interests equal 36,000 shares and the total of Morgan’s equals 36,000 shares.
Although the privately owned Federal Reserve Act of 1913 provided the names of the owner banks be kept a secret, R.E. McMaster, publisher of the newsletter” The Reaper” discovered, through confidential Swiss banking connections, that the following banks have controlling interest in the privately owned Federal Reserve Bank
1. Rothchild Banks of London and Berlin
2. Lazard Brothers Bank of Paris
3. Israel Moses Sieff Banks of Italy
4. Warburg Bank of Hamburg, Germany and Amsterdam
5. Kuhn Loeb Bank of New York
6. Lehman Brothers Bank of New York
7. Goldman Sachs Bank of New York
8. Chase Manhattan Bank of New York (Controlled By Rockefellers)
"Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will do
that... I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about
American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and
the Americans know it." -- Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October
3, 2001
I think Kitco has peaked, and deteriorated since about 2000. There were a lot of diverse posters and a lot of heated exchanges, but the lefties and right wingers were pretty well balanced off. And the topics were a lot more varied, like the Y2K bomb, the manipulation of the markets, etc.
Now the Marxist Leninists have driven off a lot of the good posters, including many of the Kitco pioneers like Sharefin, Reify, Pascal, Scorp, Jorick, Cobber (still here but hardly ever posts, and no wonder why) and many others.
It certainly doesnot lend prestge to Bart's sales effort, if sophistication and comraderie are seen as desireable. JMO
—uploading our consciousnesses into cyberspace—was also discussed at the conference. One proponent is Martine Rothblatt, who is a genuine visionary . She has helped launch several satellite networks, including the satellite radio network Sirius, and also founded the biotech company United Therapeutics. She is also proudly a postoperative transsexual and author of The Apartheid of Sex .
Her talk entitled "Of Genes, Bemes and Conscious Things" outlined a future in which human consciousnesses are uploaded into computers. Her neologism "beme" is modeled after Richard Dawkin's meme . Memes are units of cultural transmission and Rothblatt's bemes are "fundamental, transmissible, mutable units of beingness." Heideggerian bytes if you will. Bemes consist of smiles, the taste of lasagna, the memory of a first bike ride and so forth. According to Rothblatt, just as genes spell out matter, bemes spell out mind.
Rothblatt suggested that bemes could be eventually captured and stored by more sophisticated wearable recording systems like the MyLifeBits project being developed at Microsoft by Gordon Bell. Researchers are also working on creating a bouquet of nanowires....
Erik Davis offered the Matrix metaphor in which Morpheus offers Neo either a blue pill or a red pill . Davis' apparent implication is that refusing the new biotechnologies is like taking the blue pill—the human condition, the cycle of birth, life and death continues as it always has. Going forward with biotech progress is the equivalent of taking the red pill, ushering humanity into a posthuman future in which the verities of birth, life and death are up for grabs. Davis hinted that perhaps choosing the red pill of biotech will reveal unpleasant truths about the world that we would rather not know. (In contrast, I believe that there are no dangerous truths.) Davis pointed out that the choices before us catch us in a confused balance between nostalgia and exhilarating expectations. Davis worried that postmodern humanity has lost the grand narratives that used to give meaning to life for most people.
William Hurlbut fulfilled his role as naysayer. He sourly asked, "Biotech progress will give us freedom for what; enhancement for what?" He suggested that the sorts of enhancements people would choose would not be ennobling, but instead "draw us down the gradient of our appetites."
I was invited to participate on the opening plenary panel to argue over human rights in the enhanced future with William Hurlbut , a member of the President's Council on Bioethics and culture critic Erik Davis , author of TechGnosis: Myth, Magic, and Mysticism in the Age of Information.
Briefly, I came out full force for a biotech enhanced future . I argue that there are no ethical reasons for forbidding people in the future to use safe biotech enhancements to alter their personalities, abolish sleep, increase their physical strength, boost their intelligence and memories, change their sex, live much longer healthier lives, and even change the number of their chromosomes. I also argued that in general it would be ethical for parents to use safe biotech to enhance their children in these ways as well.
Palo Alto—Last week an exhilarating and perplexing mixture of visionaries, philosophers, transhumanists , legal scholars, and technophiles along with some crackpots and naysayers gathered for a two day meeting at Stanford University's Law School to ponder the future of human enhancement and posthumanity. The occasion was the Human Enhancement Technologies and Human Rights (HETHR) conference. HETHR featured lectures ranging from sober discussions of the parental rights and the consent of the unborn and future generations, to the use of steroids and gene enhancement in sports and constitutional rights to enhancements, to uplifting animals to human level intelligence and uploading our personalities and memories into computer networks.
The virtual financial reality holodeck appeals to the deceitful heart of man. His heart prefers it to unmediated reality, which seems unreasonably hard by comparison. He willingly suspends disbelief on the virtual financial reality holodeck, as at the movies.
It is only in the higher chambers where nations intechange with nations that the spell of the holodeck has no power. The only interest which magicians have in observing magic shows is to learn the secrets of their competitors.
Daniel Perle : Iran has stated that they want to wipe Israel off the map.
Humphries : They did not. If you read the Farsi translation ,they did not say that.
Perle : mumble mumble.....
But cheque kiting. The treasury selling bonds to the FED in exchange for notes costing 2c. Both run by Goldman Sachs. Never having to actually settle anything. That is not even Peter and Paul. It is just Paul.
a potential waiting to be realized. The illusion of stock purchasing power was created and the funds managers responded. The holodeck was in being.
Thereafter, it was rapidly improved. The holodeck's improvement and the Tech Bubble in stocks happened coterminously. Inflation was eliminated from the holodeck. Gross National Product from faster computing was added to the holodeck. There were many refinements. The holodeck became so well constructed that the tech bubble could be burst without any damage to the holodeck, whatsoever. Soft landings were the latest feature of the holodeck. F & F could fail to report for months and the holodeck was undamaged.
The question now pending is whether or not any future "stocks crash" will ever be necessary on the holodeck.
After Volker broke the gold to money connection with 20% interest rates, the American economy was standing rather still. Voodoo economics came to the rescue. We built a 600 ship navy. But greater brains than Stockman grasped the possibilities of magic and the virtual financial reality holodeck was gradually constructed. Wall Street enforces the holodeck. How ? By punishing the corporation which does not meet or exceed the required numbers for a quarter. Does it really matter if anticipated sales are counted as revenue and then reclassified the week following ? Does it even matter if there are mortgages booked at F & F for addresses which do not exist ? Not at all. Does it matter if Treasury bonds are reported as sold for which settlement is never made ? Not a bit.
The measure of the pressure on corporations to participate quietly in the virtual financial reality is known from the fact the whistleblower at Enron is now unemployable in corporate America. Can a whistleblower really risk whistling when the corporation may have a Director of National Intelligence Pass ? Government enforcement of the virtual financial reality holodeck has been added to Wall Street's. It's a fortified holodeck.
Financial and economic are distinguished. Financial reality is now wholly virtual on the Wall Street and Treasury Department Holodeck. The financial sector is wholly virtual.
Economic reality is only partially virtual. That part which exists by reason of government reports is virtual. That part which exists by reason of corporate reports is more or less virtual, depending on the proximity of the reporter to the Military & Intelligence & Financial Commercial Complex.
In the wholly virtual reality numbers can be created as necessary. In the partially virtual reality numbers are derived from real economic activity. Unlike the scene on a fully deployed holodeck, the virtual financial and economic holodeck is a mixture of computer generated illusions and actual artifacts of real action. The holodeck creditor participant is free to attribute credibility to whatever is contained on the financial and economic holodeck on an item by item basis. The holodeck debtor participant, however, cannot question.
Well, if were saying everything he is saying I wouldn't be buying those 110puts. I would be buying intead tons of puts at a lower strike price and further out; this given his logic.
so, that he is paying to be closer to the money tells me he really doesn't believe what he is saying. Not that he doesn't think it will come to pass, but that he lacks the personal self confidence to put a lot of his money behind the trade.
... Steve Saville has an article on ge too it is listed around this one. Steve is talking about the stock market. But he has a chart of INTC that he talks about in light of what else he is saying. ... I found this interesting and made me think a lot about whay I bought the INTC calls. ; ^ )
I still have Sept SPY puts. About half of these I converted into bear put spreads in the hopes of profiting from premium decay over the next few weeks ... as I suspect the stock market moves higher for just a few more weeks.
I also bot some lots of QQQQ and INTC calls. Some DIA calls. These are June and at the money. Two week make or break trade. Vegas style.
I also got T-bond calls and TLT calls.
I will look into that article.
But you know, as obvious as it is that the DJIA is going to drop, its just a little too obvious right now...or usually that is the case.
With Paulson in the Treasury, and that Private Bank the US Federal Reserve, owned by the investment banks, of which Goldman Sachs is the largest, gives us the de facto United States of Goldman Sachs. AIPAC whips congress, the Straussians whip Bush, and the media is likewise wrapped up we have govt by foreign occupation.
Which yet my soul seeketh, but I find not: one man among a thousand have I found: but a woman among all those have I not found. Lo, this only have I found, that God hath made man upright; but they have sought out many inventions. Ecclesiastes 7:27-29
There is no gold or silver coin nor other thing to be counted, one by one, in the exchanges and vaults of enterprise or the corridors of power nor in the judicial courts and chambers in the apostate, ungodly Occident and in the anti-Christian Orient. Rather, there are there uncounted inventions by those whose creed is that there is no God, who have no so much as even an urge to be upright. Their tongues craft frauds without limit, unashamedly. And the little deceivers are so willingly deceived by the greater, and so self-deceived, they are become not-men walking. Nothing is as it seems in the world of investment in the United States, since 1947.
We got the bullmarket sell-off on the HUI. Fast and furious. We got the bounce. The chicken hawks locked in ANY rebate they could find and we had a little wobble. New buyers stepping up so far, as we look to have a bullish disconnect between the shares and the metal. Stay tuned
Kitco has become(mostly) an incestuous merry-go-round. They would not let new subscribers sign up and so now we have Disney fighting with all and sundry like a juvenile and not much else. If the free speach libertarians believed their own mantra, then they would not be scared of an open forum. The one thing we do need is an ignore feature , or equivalent. All else will fall into place.
I have been watching the Kitco forum for a number of years unable to post valuable info because it has been shut off from new enrollment.... I must say that John Disney needs to STFU and StreetsofSLUDGE needs to keep the Zionistic BS to a MINIMUM
Lip service is all the weaker dollar has ever gotten. Now the Wall Street First Team is back. Secret accounting is in. Anything goes. Books ? Books ? We don't need no stinkin' books !
The official government version of the great San Francisco earthquake is a total fraud perpetrated by the US government which does not want the American people to know the truth.
This is because our government has been infiltrated at all levels by the Eskimos, who wish to regain all the lands they believe were stolen from them by the white man and other Indian tribes working for the white man as a diversion.
San Francisco is rock steady and should never have experienced an earthquake if it were due to natural causes.
What really happened: A special task force of Eskimo commandos, disguised as Mexican migrant fruit pickers, infiltrated their way into California early in 1906, and greased the San Andreas Fault with whale oil, which anyone with half a brain must realize would cause the tectonic plates to shift
Moby Dick was actually a coded warning by Herman Melville of their secret plans he had uncovered. He know he would be killed by the Inuit agents of the Illuminati if he wrote openly of their plot, so he wrote it in code so that only the initiated could understand the hidden meaning.
It is so sad that Kitco ist going Kaput. Nowhere else such ideas can I post without getting kicked off. Such support I get from other correct thinking men of vision!
It is a jewish controlled infrastructure which prevents ideas not approved by our zionist masters being posted. They own all the media outlets.
When the Fourth Reich comes - NO MORE MR. NICE GUY!
Roach says commodities are in a bubble. Thats good news for commodities. Commodities were in a bear market from 1980 to 1999, as interest rates sank from Volker's high , to the low coinciding with $10 oil. Now the cycle has reversed and the Bank of England's attempts at managing rates DOWN by throwing comic amounts of money at them, suggests that we are a long way from the next rate top. As Jim Rogers notes, the shortest commodity bull was 15 years and the longest was 23 years. Inflation adjusted gold from delinking in the early 70's by Nixon until now also says we have a long way to go yet, not to mention guaranteed overshoot.
But then a Morgan Stanley man would say what he does, wouldn't he ?
Snow attempted to cure the imbalance problem by negotiating with the Chinese who rebuffed overtures. Maybe, the promise of a lower dollar is insincere and a fabian tactic and the American manufactureres are just slowly twisting in the wind.
As Clinton’s first treasury secretary, serving from 1993-94, Bentsen enjoyed a higher profile than others in that job. ~ MSNBC.com, today's Bentsen funeral.
Paulson is to take over the Treasury post at a time when the economy — which had posted its strongest growth spurt in 2 1/2 years in the opening quarter of 2006 — is expected to log slower growth. ~ MSNBC.com
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I think we are in a period where the Fed Chairman will be low key and receed into the background. The Treas Sec will be the public face.
This will occur both due to personality differences between Bernanke and Paulson, but also in order to shield banks from the collapse of the US banking system coming next year.
In the meanwhile, Goldman Sachs tentacles will grow and will influence every aspect of US finance (much more than now) just as has Walmart retailing in USA.
You will also note a tremendous amount more difficulty for the shorts to find clear trends in the stock market. A couple down days followed by punishing up swings on the open and closes for no apparent reason at times and at other times cleverly timed with press releases from various quarters announcing governmental statistics or other business news.
The markets themselves will begin to move like Rumsfeld Army taking Baghdad. Storming swiftly but with difficulty gettng support to catch up. And at some point, when it appears victory has been achieved, insufficient resources to occupy stability.
You are getting might deep man. This morning I joked that most should go smoke doobies for 16 months and not watch the markets and let this gold thing occur. ... don't take me too literally!
only one thing to counter your excellent analysis. When fear rises humans tend to operate solely according to the limbic centers of the brain. This tends to make them repeat patterns of ancient times such as gold hording and internecine strife. ... So, the buttons at the Treasury may work for only a little while.
I am sort of at my limit for my equities that I cannot also by puts for right now. And adding more of these would change my current risk profile which is already large but manageable to sleep well at night.
I do own some USGL. Maybe I will buy some more. Only thing is I struggle buying more stocks that I cannot hedge right now. The remainder of year is crazy for equities...anything can happen.
But I won't dump CFTN. Even if it goes bankrupt. I love their AGX-32 silver medicine. I have helped a lot of people the doctors couldn't with it. ..... And I see ahead is plagues and disease unfolding in this world. So, like owning CFTN.
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But no confession yet that a deadly strain of the moral rot was incubated in law schools.
CIVIL CODE 3515. He who consents to an act is not wronged by it.
CIVIL CODE 3516. Acquiescence in error takes away the right of objecting to it.
CIVIL CODE 3527. The law helps the vigilant, before those who sleep on their rights.
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The BOTTOM LINE is they will do as much to you as you LET them get away with.
To see its import, look again at the key phrase, “White-looking Black people.” The phrase seems reasonable only because you are used to it. If someone said “tall-looking short people can exist” or “fat-looking thin people can exist,” you would laugh at the silliness. But you do not laugh at the notion of “White-looking Black people,” although a person from any other nation on earth would laugh. Why not? It is because at some point in America’s past, membership in the Black endogamous group switched from reflecting appearance and blood fraction (recall that Eston Hemings was fully accepted as White in 1830) to reflecting ideology. To see this, compare the three phrases above with comparable ideological phrases: “Christian-looking Jews” or “American-looking communists.” Suddenly, the phrase is not silly. The very earliest that anyone has been able to find this peculiar usage was shortly after 1831.
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Saying "bear" makes it sound like there's an exchange or a market in the sense of the activity derived from coffee house free trading. Few perceive that that the numbers presented for consumption by participants, on video screens and paper, are purely a tender of digital value. What do the occassional admissions of "failure of internal controls" really mean ? They mean the digital quality and quantity of numbers previously tendered and accepted for value by participants was fictitious. How is that possible ? It's possible when valuation production, at any point in the process, is under the arbitrary control of one or a few.
Control of the digital value which is tendered to participants has been consolidated and is further consolidated every day. Where digital spreads, consolidation follows. It could be truly said that all of the digital value of the United States Treasury is under the control of two forefingers. Beneath the humdrum placid surface of the everyday, a deadly struggle is being waged on the question of whether valuation shall be made by the one, the few, or the many, whether the power to control value shall be centralized or distributed.
A currency lubricates and abstracts barter. In order to serve the purpose a currency must have certain properties. It must be portable, divisible, fungible, durable, must have some industrial use, relatively rare, and non-counterfeitable. Among others. A perfect currency has not been found yet. Gold comes the closest. A demand for a good curency must reflect the demand for a currency in an economy. ie it must track the REAL interest rates of an economy. Gold does this better than any other. Accept no substitutes.
A normal commodity in backwardation will entice the market to cough up , by hook or by crook, more supplies until the backwardation is resolved. Gold is a hoarded commodity and in times of financial stress gold backwardation will cause even more hoarding and the market will become discontinous and the paper ediface built ontop of the metal will then sieze and collapse. The price of gold in terms of that paper will become priceless. Better get some metal insurance.
Left exposed, the once mightly USA's bluff has been called and the whole world now realises that all the military hardware in the world cannot stop an urban insurgeancy.
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The United States would not be able to launch military strikes on Iran because it is already overstretched on too many fronts, Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said on Tuesday.
Mottaki said he was not concerned about the prospect of military action if Iran fails to comply with US demands over its nuclear program, which it insists is only for peaceful purposes.
"They can't. The US is not in a position to impose another crisis on taxpayers. There are a lot of difficulties in Iraq and Palestine. They are not in a position to create a new crisis in the region," he said.
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Markets exact a cost for loss of leadership. There was an American brand. Imagine if it were revealed Hormel was selling lye cured rat meat. That's the American brand today.
The U.S. ship of state has entered a sea of thickening ice. Every turn of the screw meets more resistance. Wind and current and ice conspire to thwart the holding of a heading. And the field of ice itself is moving, pushed by slent forces working out of sight. Every hour the ship is less and less the master of its fate. Every hour the drain of energy required to press on increases. Every hour the sought for, believed in, passage to a newer world seems more remote. Every hour another friendly voice fails to respond to radioed summons. The familiar, regular sound of the machinery reassures those aboard as it dulls them to the increasing dangers and to the wild pacing to and fro of the Ahabs on the bridge. For this ship's crew was signed to articles based on likeliness with the captain and not reputation of skill.
Justice? That concept has been lost in the courtroom, and no one should seek justice there. Seek comedy, seek farce, seek satire, but do not enter a courtroom seeking justice.
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Mankind has reached the age when any message, however maliciously composed, can be broadcast at relatively low cost.
Those who control this technology are at war with those who don't. Fraud is cardinal in war. We have reached the Age of Peak Poop and the only antidote for it is individual free expression.
I was listening to Nick Russo's radio show on kfnn this am (taped) and he mentioned that he was reccomending a gold investement to his clients that has yield. Since I'm assuming the GDX will be paying dividends I guessing that may be what he was talking about.
My question to forum members is ...... are GDX sales treated favorably in reference to long term cap gains....? 15%.
Russo has always had gold exposure in his portfolio and just recently is calling for a major stock market rollover.
In case anyone wanted to hear the archived show
If U read Jon Krakuaers book "Under the the banner of heaven" you would be dumping that Clifton stock faster than 12 long beach fish tacos in the morning.
$$$$ no nationalization risk with Macmin....most US silver plays have had their runs. With Macmin U get silver production and gold production from New Guinea gold this year.
Enough Is Enough
People have had it up to here with The Lobby
by Justin Raimondo
Perhaps Rep. Betty McCollum (D-Minn.) didn't quite realize what she was getting into when she voted against the Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006, so-called, which would cut off all aid to the Palestinians, impose economic sanctions, and make it impossible for any entity, public or private, to operate in Palestine. Or maybe she's just brave.
A liberal Democrat, Rep.McCollum had always been a strong supporter of Israel, but on the issue of how to deal with the democratically elected Hamas government of the Palestinian Authority, she had real differences with what Stephen Walt and John J. Mearsheimer call "the Lobby," in their pathbreaking and provocative study of "The Israel Lobby," published by Harvard University. In that work, the two professors have this to say about the power of the Lobby over the U.S. Congress:
"The bottom line is that AIPAC, a de facto agent for a foreign government, has a stranglehold on Congress, with the result that U.S. policy towards Israel is not debated there, even though that policy has important consequences for the entire world. In other words, one of the three main branches of the government is firmly committed to supporting Israel. As one former Democratic senator, Ernest Hollings, noted on leaving office, 'you can't have an Israeli policy other than what AIPAC gives you around here.'"
What AIPAC had been giving out was that the Palestinian Anti-Terrorism Act of 2006 was a litmus test – either you voted for it, or, as a local AIPAC representative, Amy Rotenberg, put it to Bill Harper, Rep. McCollum's chief of staff:
"On behalf of [myself] the Jewish community, AIPAC, and the voters of the Fourth District, Congresswoman McCollum's support for terrorists will not be tolerated."
You left something out of your list, friend Doran:
The first line (0)- which does not appear - is the secret that binds the neocons together. Their other views are not secret - you have just posted them here; these views are not well known, but not secret.
The secret (0)line is this one, and comes first, of course:
When I get a check, it says “dollars” on the front. If I endorse it openly, I just testified I received dollars of valuable substance, even though there are none.
When I stamp or write:
DEPOSITED FOR CREDIT ON ACCOUNT
OR EXCHANGED FOR
NON-REDEEMABLE FEDERAL RESERVE NOTES
I just corrected the error on the front and converted the check into a bill of exchange.
1963 Communist Goals
The following was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.
1. US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war
2. US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war
3. Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"
4. Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5. Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites
6. Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination
7. Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.
8. Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN
9. Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress
10. Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN
11. Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)
12. Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party
13. Do away with loyalty oaths
14. Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office
15. Capture one or both of the political parties in the US
16. Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17. Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.
18. Gain control of all student newspapers
19. Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20. Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21. Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22. Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.
23. Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".
24. Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25. Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26. Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".
27. Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"
28. Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
29. Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30. Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".
31. Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32. Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33. Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34. Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35. Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
36. Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37. Infiltrate and gain control of big business
38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39. Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40. Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41. Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42. Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.
43. Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44. Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45. Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
"What we see now is a great battle unfolding," he said. "It is about the fundamental institutions that define western civilisation - the market economy, liberal democracy, the rule of law - and the moral standards and values underlying these institutions."
Gold and free speech are the sine qua non of these fundamental institutions. Men cannot stand upright without them.
Straussism: The Philosophy Directing The Age Of Tyranny
1 ) The Few Must Rule The Many
2 ) Virtue Is Defined By The Elite
3 ) The Strong Must Rule The Weak
4 ) Only One Natural Right: The Right To Rule Over The Vulgar Many
5 ) Justice Is Merely The Interest Of The Stronger
6 ) ?The Rule Of The Wise?
7 ) The Three Classes: The Wise-Few, The Vulgar-Many And The Gentlemen
8 ) The State Is Omnipotent: It Manifests Militaristic Nationalism
9 ) Perpetual War Is Necessary
10 ) Patriotic Fervor Is To Be Rallied
11 ) Political Expediency And Murder Become Virtue
12 ) Possess And As Necessary Present The ?Hidden Meaning?
13 ) Maintain A Culture Of Lying And Carry On A Perpetual Confusion Campaign
14 ) The Many Are Told What They Need To Know And No More
15 ) Lies Are Held To Be Nobel: Develop, Maintain And Present Noble Lies
16 ) Dissemble Democracy
17 ) Religion Is For The Many
18 ) Secrecy Is Essential
19 ) Nature Abhors A Contract
20 ) Intimidate All Opponents
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