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Subject: Re: Thomas Kuhn


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Date Posted: 13:24:10 04/11/01 Wed
In reply to: Anthony 's message, "Re: Thomas Kuhn" on 13:22:23 04/11/01 Wed

I guess I was not clear enough, which is always possible with my writing. What I am trying to say is that these indicators of a changing world are not necessarily paradigm shift indicators. They are just symbols of a dying or soon
to be irrelevant paradigm. I see these negative aspects of our culture as problems that the old paradigm just cannot solve. Meaning all of our scientific thoughts and processes do not bring actual relevant answers that can solve these
things. I would therefore assume that what we need would be a new paradigm that would allow us to think in a different way, spiritual, mechanical, whatever.

One of the main problems I have is that all of the ways we have mentioned do not really strike me as original. Meaning, we are in the midst of a mechanical world and have seen through historical study that there have been spiritual
worlds. Say what you will, but we are still a product of the industrial revolution and age. This information age melarchy is just an offshoot of that industrialization, based on, and brought about by our reliance on the scientific method.

We have seen both types of worlds, and I do not see humanity going back to either. (Maybe we are in need of a duality in our paradigm?)

I want to know if there is anything new out there that anybody has noticed, what would Fritjof say is new and has potential. For I do not think these negative examples of changing society are shifts, they are a resemblance of the crumbling old shift.

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Date Posted: 13:25:12 04/11/01 Wed

I totally agree. Let's not overcomplicate things, right? By that I mean I stood the chance of overcomplicating things by calling the changes in behavior due to the dying overarching paradigm by the name "smaller paradigms". But I suppose, buy the strict definition of paradigm, we could say that there are personal paradigms that belong to the people inside the larger paradigm, right? But anyway, this is all semantics, I think we are saying the same thing.

I totally agree with all that you have said, no matter what terminology you and I are using that may differ. Remember that Capra mentioned the idealistic paradigm, which was a balance of the ideational paradigm type and the sensate paradigm type, if I am not mistaken. I wonder if there is evidence of such a paradigm emerging?

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