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Date Posted: 15:45:52 07/11/07 Wed
Author: Kim
Subject: Jeremy

I have been noticing something that I didn't notice before today while I was searching through clips for pictures.In the scene where Denise is saying goodbye to Frank Jeremy is there and then he walks away to let his parents say goodbye in fact he turns his back on them to let them have a little privacy. Understandable for an eighteen year old boy. What I didn't understand is the scene where Frank comes home after he was hurt. We see Denise run to him all the while Jeremy hangs back during all the kissing and hugging and he waits behind the ropes until they wave to him to join them. Now even at 18 don't you think it would be first instinct to run to his father with his mom? It is almost like he wasn't sure if he was welcome in the reunion or not and had to wait for permission to join them. I don't know it just struck me as odd.
And I have to ask this, I'm not married so I don't know what I would do in this situation, but would you allow your husband to throw your child out on the streets and not know where he is or how he is or if he has money or food or shelter or whatever he might need? Now I know he is 18 but being on his own was not something he had experienced yet. I am not saying there is a right or a wrong answer here I am just curious what people think.

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[> Oh, I must have been editing my post about the same scene as you were posting yours! I didn't feel the reunion was odd, maybe because I wanted F&D to have their moment, but now that you mention it....As for F throwing J out, I don't see how F feels he can seperate a child from his mother, but I think Denise was powerless to stop it. You would assume he would have friends, somewhere to go, most teenagers doI am a mother and married, but my child is younger and it's difficult to place myself in Denise's shoes. I would hope my child would never raise her hand to me. -- Ixia, 16:06:25 07/11/07 Wed [1]


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[> I doubt that Frank would have been so drastic had this been a one time occurence. In fact Denise herself had threatened to call the police and change the locks. If it was in the middle of winter, if he lived in a dangerous part of town, I might be more concerned. There's probably a chaplain on post or someone he could appeal to, to spend the night. The Holden's come to mind. Michael had said he would help him only if he told his father. He had options. If he was resourceful enough to think he could get away with hitting his Mom he could come up with an overnight plan and figure out a way to contact his Mom the next day. Deep down he must know she would not leave him in the lurch and would have found a way to help him. Denise could have run after Jeremy or told her husband if he goes, I go. -- Jubellant, 16:12:08 07/11/07 Wed [1]


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[> I didn't fell the reunion was odd either. I am married and have two children and "No" I would never allow my children to be thrown out onto the streets. It would make me completely insane wondering if they were safe, sheltered, protected etc, I don't care what part of town you're in. But I'm a stronger individual than Denise is at this point. Denise has been the "yes honey", "whatever you say honey" wife for so long putting her husband and child before herself that she is shellshocked. And I don't buy that Frank would have acted any differently if Jeremy had only hit his mother once. Frank heard "hit Mom" and went red with fury. (Inside...) -- KH, 17:23:38 07/11/07 Wed [1]

In Frank's frame of mind at the time I don't feel Denise knew what to do until it was too late. I don't think Jeremy has or had any options open to him. I don't think he has many friends, Michael Holden sent him away when he went to see Amanda even noticing that Jeremy had bags in hand. It has nothing to do with resourcefulness when there are so many emotions involved from aloneness, lost, fear, anger, embarassement etc. :o)


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[> [> O.K. Obviously you guys know I meant "feel" not "fell" right...LOL. -- KH, 17:25:01 07/11/07 Wed [1]


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[> Inside as length was too long! LOL.... -- Kristen, 20:00:03 07/11/07 Wed [1]

I am finding it pretty hard to feel sorry for Jeremy right now.. first off when we had found out that he was hitting his mother (Ep1) we dont know how many times he had been hitting her--it was almost his way of showing his dominance over her and in essence was a coward. He was angry yes, probably at this dad. But what does he do? He takes it out on his mother--big man!! Then I also dont feel sorry for him again because I felt that his apology to his mom was not good enough-- I just didnt feel the sincerity or remorse behind it-he was like it was wrong and Im sorry. Jeremy is 18 and knew better than to hit his mother-- as far as I am concerned, he deserved to have his six tossed. BUT I also think that Frank should go and track his son down and they all need to find out why he did this. Anyway Jeremy we will have to see what happens w/ ya boy!! Again, LOVE THIS SHOW!!!!!! :-)


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