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Date Posted: 13:27:10 10/28/08 Tue
Author: mkim Another retired military wife and fan of CB.
Subject: I agree with you, retired military wife. And Jubellant, your reasoning makes sense, but I'm still feeling absolutely let down. Denise was a character I could see myself in, I was a military wife from the age of 19 up to and beyond my husbands retirement, 20 years later. I know all those issues happen, but why does 'spreading your wings' have to be, self determination, job, standing up to an overbearing husband and then.....screwing around with a guy nearly your sons age???
In reply to: retired miltary wife 's message, "I'm in distress...(more inside)" on 18:18:09 10/20/08 Mon


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[> [> [> Getti was a disappointment but at least you could see the evolution. The Mac SL is just weird. The restaurant kiss could sort of be explained away but hitting the sheets just made Denise look really cheap. She certainly is not being discreet about anything. I just find this SL so bizarre and unbelievable. Maybe something from the explosion hit her in the head, -- Jubellant, 15:45:22 10/28/08 Tue [1]


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[> [> [> [> more from me after this Sunday's episode...(inside) -- retired military wife, 15:48:48 10/28/08 Tue [1]

I was not feeling any better at the end of Sunday's episode and couldn't figure out why, when I knew what was going to happen that I was having such trouble.

Today, the answer occurred to me.

If we saw Denise in counseling, whether it be to learn to communicate better in her marriage. To deal with her inablility to react during/after the bombing, etc. I could see how she would determine that there was nothing left for her with Frank. However, what occured to me is without anything like that, and they way it happened on screen - kissing by the water and then home in bed - I thought Denise came across as a horny teenager. Full of lust, maybe, but not much depth.

I know there are those who are holding out for some sort of revelatin that it is some kind of breakdown, whether it be from the abuse she suffered at the hand of her son or the traumtic event of the bombing, but I'm not seeing that in the character.

This leads me to wonder if anyone has an idea of where they're taking the storyline. We know that CB can play the role of someone with PTSD from her role in JAG so if that were on the writers' table somewhere I think we'd be getting some sense of that from CB performance.

Another thing that I find absolutely over the top is that she did it in the bed she shares with Frank. I know that women can and do that, but I've got a couple of problems with it in this case.

She says that Frank is the only man she's been with sexually. That means that the bed she shares with Frank would be a reminder of that. So for this particular character to do it for the first time with anyone else in that bed seems odd to me.

Another think I find wrong with it is that she's a child of a military man, Army too, I believe, and the fact that she wouldn't be more discreet in her 'affairs' by doing it in the house she shares with Frank seems also out of character.

I know she's going through a time when she wants to say that what people think doesn't matter to her, but I think that would be more centered around her personally, (ie riding the motorcycle) than to her family.

There is also the factor that a neighbor could say in front of Jeremy - if she doesn't care about Frank's feelings any longer - "Denise how's that guy you were seeing?"

I don't see how the writers' can undo this mess.

There are so many things that happen while your husband/spouse is away that surely they could have come up with something else to cause friction in a couple.

The fact is that in the US, at least, one out of two marriages end in divorce. It is also a fact that the divorce rate among the military is higher. With that said, I have no problem with characters getting a divorced on the show, even CB's, but why did we have to go the cheating route.

Roland cheated. Pamela had the kissing/temptation with the art teacher, and now Denise.

To those who say it's drama and entertainment. I agree to a point. With such a powerful season one, and support from military wives, I think TPTB have a responsibility to not make all military spouses look like cheaters.

Military wives are a tough bunch. We have to be because we do a lot. It's like being a housewife times twenty in the underrated jobs category.

If they change their show label to soap opera, I'd watch for entertainment, but I think when you say you're a drama you owe to the people you represent to show some shred of respect for those people in that profession whether it be a police drama where you're shown the realities of policemen either on the job or at home, or attorneys where they have to make judgement calls about whether to represent someone they think is probably guilty to uphold the system they believe in that says everyone has a right to counsel, a fair trial, etc. And yes, I think that includes showing crooked cops or bad lawyers, but when you have five main characters I don't think the odds that two of them are going to be "bad" one is on the fence and two of them are good. I don't think that's a fair representation especially when there are so many other things that happen to military families, some of which occur in any family, but some occur only in military families.

I know they want to leave the core group together. Then, introduce characters that are more disposalable. They could be on the show for a few weeks, half a season to get us attached to them, and then they'd be transferred.

In the case of divorce. Denise could've been the one that got divorced, and one of a couple of things could've happened. Denise could have been seen only at Betty's or the hospital or other interactions with the current Army wives, or been out for a few episodes to mark time, then she could return being married to another Army guy.

One last pet peeve and I'll disappear back into lurkdom again.

The stories of Pamela's stalker, the story line about drugs in the school, even Joan PTSD were resolved in what, two or three episodes, then why is it that if Denise is suffering from some mental breakdown is it taking so long for us to find that out. Not to be resolved, completely understood, but not to be suspected by anyone and questions raised, etc.

Seems to me they may have gotten themselves confused with another show....LOST.

I'll try to keep my thoughts to myself after the season finale.


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[> [> [> [> [> I have expressed in other posts about the lack of continuity or depth with the storylines. There seems to be a lack of development and one just has to try to fill in the blanks. I don't mind watching the show for the entertainment value but after such a fantastic Season One I am not impressed with the bait and switch. It is just so hard to get a feel for Denise as she seems irrational and for no good reason. Will look forward to your thoughts after the finale. -- Jbellant, 16:26:20 10/28/08 Tue [1]


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