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Date Posted: 05:56:24 06/12/10 Sat
Author: Joel to Bill
Subject: Re: Kyle's Dad Spanks Joel For Windown Broken Long Ago
In reply to: Bill to Joel, Sean, Cody, Luke, and Rick 's message, "Re: Kyle's Dad Spanks Joel For Windown Broken Long Ago" on 18:25:29 06/11/10 Fri

Hi Bill,

Thanks for saying you are sorry this incident happened to me, and proud that I stood up to Kyle and his dad and conquered my fears.

I knew I had a 50/50 chance when I went to talk, try to reason with Kyle and his dad and ask them why they kept from the day one of the window breaking that they needed to criticize me for not getting spanked by my dad, who didn't believe in it or have Kyle's dad spank me, besides my paying for the share of the window getting broken; but especially why the two felt they needed to almost constantly remind me that I should have gotten spanked and maybe I should do something about it yet; and hoping I would come out on top and they realize that they should be satisfied with the decision of my dad, who is best friends with Kyle's dad as much as I am with Kyle; and that I still DIDN't NEED to satisfy Kyle and his dad and have to be spanked!

As I mention in the thread, Kyle grinned his face off while I was getting paddled, and afterwards as well. And still making remarks after the paddling ended, which I thought they had agreed remarks and facial gestures would end after I took the paddling, but as I was leaving the remarks continued.

The matter was not settled that day.

Next day at baseball practice Kyle brought up to team members before and after practice about my coming to his house and the "talk" I had with his dad and him about the broken window incident when Kyle and I were kids; how I was complaining yet after 8-some years to him and his dad, even though they had every right to still talk about that day and why I didn't do something about it; that I was still crybabying about how I was still entitled to be let off and not spanked for helping to break the window with Kyle; when I should have been spanked by his dad, if my dad couldn't do it or believe in it; and Kyle and his dad couldn't understand why I didn't understand they still believe they had a right to complain to me about it and not be criticized about for if they wanted to talk about it to me or others.

Who have they been talking to about this I would like to know? I know of nobody else, other then myself or my dad they complain to about that day.

Kyle told the guys I "gave in to having his dad paddle me finally, because I was feeling guilty I didn't have it done years ago and to make things right now when I should have had it done when the window was broken." Laughing to team members, Kyle told the guys my dad " didn't have guts years ago to spank me then and that's why I finally realized that my dad was wrong not doing so then and that I finally had Kyle's dad spank me now to make things right!"

Kyle went on to the team members about lots more things about the day of the broken window and my coming over to his house; and left out alot of information that told the true story what really happened both days; to make it look like Kyle and his dad were more in the right and how wrong I was more for alot of things that were not true.

So I guess my going to Kyle's house and "talking" to him and his dad was for nothing, other then getting my butt paddled to satisfy them, as the talk/remarks and even the gestures has not STOP by Kyle to me like they are suppose to and hard to tell what his dad might still be saying or will say to people and me yet!

I talked with the team members too,about that window breaking day, as nobody knew about that day; so they'll have to decide who to believe, me or Kyle! At least I didn;t add or leave out information like Kyle did. Even Sean, Cody and Luke tried to back me up with true information, and try to discredit Kyle; so I don't know what to think anymore for friendship with Kyle and his dad, and why they want to continue doing what they are doing to me to keep remarks, etc. still going.

Do they now don't want me as a friend and be a second family to me?

See why I was hesitant to go right away to talk with them? I knew they might continue to be like they was before we talked and continue afterwards, but I would give them the benefit of the doubt!

Now, when I see Kyle's dad at today's baseball regional play-off or any other day, should I still shake his hand and tell him how proud I am he paddled my butt to make things right; especially I appreciated the remarks he and Kyle made as I was leaving their house, which I thought me taking the paddling would end any future remarks and facial gestures;and remarks that Kyle made at baseball practice yesterday not telling the team the entire true story about the window breaking day, etc.?

So what great suggestion do you give now to me, Bill?

Also, your gesture to want me to take your belt to give you a whipping for the cigarettes you had when you was kid is not necessary, Bill. I don't consider myself a good role modoel because Kyle and his dad will tell you I'm not. Give Kyle's dad your belt to give you a whipping, he loves to have a guy bare his butt to get a spanking and think they are doing right by it, and then Kyle's dad can brag how he whipped your butt too, to different people and maybe add or twist the truth around to make him look like he's a hero to you and doing you a favor and make him look like a BIG MAN!

Sorry Bill, I didn't mean to be so critical.

I'm truly sorry your dad is NOT here for Father's Day for ya. If I could do something to bring him back to you I would. You hold your head high on Father's Day so people can see, and let them know your dad raised a fine son, and continue to prove it in your everyday living and actions for all to see.

So Bill, I guess I shouldn't be angry at Kyle and his dad, but what is a guy suppose to do now?

I haven't told my dad that one of his best friend, Kyle's dad, paddled me for the broken widow because Kyle's dad believed I should have been and thought my dad was still wrong for not spanking me and not man enough to do so, and not respecting his judgement in his thoughts in raising me and in selecting the non-spanking punishment, but my dad did want me to pay for the broken window, after he chewed my little butt that day!

What's he going to think, if I tell him? Will he be disappointed in me for going to Kyle's dad to talk to try to have Kyle and his dad to stop making comments that I should have been spanked that day the window was broken and have him paddle me when I was challenged to "be man enough to get paddled" because I didn't think my dad's judgement was correct? What's he going to think about one of his best friends?

What do you think, Bill?

So do you think I'm still well on my way to recovery from this ordeal?

Luke, Sean and Cody are still mad at Kyle and his dad for what they did to me, but are agreeing for the sake of the baseball team to treat Kyle like a true team member during what's left of the baseball season.

I will, too.

But I'm still trying to figure out why I still want to keep loving Kyle as a Big Brother, when other people would tell me that I should disown him and his dad for the way they have mistreated me.

Could it be the good raising my parents have done with me, to try to see the best in people and overlook their faults when you can, even if they hurt me or make me angry?

I feel anger, but will try to still give Kyle another chance to treat me right!

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