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Date Posted: 06:16:37 06/14/10 Mon
Author: Sean to Bill
Subject: Re: You mannned up, so why bitch and moan about it?
In reply to: Bill to Steve 's message, "Re: You mannned up, so why bitch and moan about it?" on 14:14:07 06/13/10 Sun

Hey Bill,

I've been checking out the posts about this unfortunate paddling that Joel took on his little ass from Kyle's dad.

I'd like to throw something in, but it won't help matters now that the paddling is over and done with.

You asked if maybe this was Joel's first time to experience confronting an adult in talking, not knowing if he might get a spanking or not, and was wondering if Joel perhaps walked into something he couldn't handle?

It could be looked at both ways for Joel; maybe against Kyle's dad he might have got confused; yes taking a risk, but I bet he didn't think he would get a spanking, but did plan ahead by taking a paddle with him so he wouldn't have to take a belt whipping from Kyle's dad, which I'm glad Joel didn't have to take one as we don't know what kind of one Kyle's dad might have given Joel's little ass that day and what the after effects would be on Joel. Of course, Kyle is bigger then Joel and Kyle comes through in flying colors from paddlings and now belt whippings from his dad as his ass is used to it and more muscular then what Joel's ass is smaller in size, which Joel always jokes he's "done the best in weightlifting, toning, etc. he can to get his looking as athletic as it is and what he's got and be blessed with over the years, since he got into athletics."

As for Joel confronting adults, here's what I've learned from him...so you be the judge how good he is and might have been confronting Kyle's dad, which maybe Joel could have used some coaching at before that meeting.

The very first spanking/paddling that Joel ever got was last spring 2009, just before baseball season. And that was the first ever spanking in his life he got, volunteered on his own to talk with the school principal when Joel was a junior to exchange a paddling for no detention. From what Joel told about talking with the principal he was scared as could be and had to be shaking when he did it.. The principal didn't want to spank/paddle Joel because he never had been in his life; not that Joel didn't deserve it, he had swore at a teacher and had earned a week or two of detention and if he had taken that it would mean him missing the start of baseball season practice and him losing a starting spot on the team, which would have killed Joel! So the principal paddled Joel, and he accepted it pretty good. Because of that paddling, and what soon followed in spank bets he did with Kyle during the baseball season; both Joel and Kyle got introduced to Steve when everyone was leaving messages to each other in another forum about the home run/spanking bets Joel and Kyle had between the two!

That was before last July when Steve started this Forum he has of his own that you discovered to join and I understand before I came along it has turned out to be the best forum ever that Steve, Joel and Kyle and soon other buddies of Kyle, Joel, Steve's family and school mates like me of Joel and Kyle could join. I hope we all can keep it that way.

Back to Joel... I've been told by Joel when we've talked and I first became buddies with him, but more so this past school year that he didn't have to confront too much Kyle's dad over the years regarding spankings/paddlings because he couldn't do them to Joel when he got in trouble with Kyle; and Kyle's dad wasn't looking to do them alot to Joel if he could have spanked him.

For others adults, Joel has confronted coaches, such as football, basketball and baseball coaches; but most of them has been Joel getting his ass-chewed for not following orders in games and playing like he should as an athlete; and during practices.

Our current baseball coach Joel confronted last year; and Steve had to get Joel worked up after a few days to making Joel go to the coach and confess to him he started snapping towels on Kyle's bare wet ass in the shower after baseball practice and on two other team mates' bare asses in the shower. There's a NO TOWEL SNAPPING/NO HORSING AROUND RULE in the locker room and Joel didn't fess up right away that he started the incident; mainly because Kyle told him to keep his "little ass mouth shut!" knowing getting caught would be punishment of a paddling; and Kyle wanted to prevent Joel's ass from getting one. Kyle and the other two got paddled in front of the team in the locker room, while Joel buried his face into a towel and couldn't watch the punishments being given out. I was on the team and watched this sad event and NOBODY LAUGHED!

What I can't understand is, Kyle wanted to prevent Joel from getting a paddling that day, but not the day his dad paddled Joel for breaking the window with Kyle as little boys. What gives?

Within a day, Steve (from this forum) got Joel worked up to realize how wrong Joel was NOT to take blame at the same time with Kyle and the other two so Joel, scared as could be, confronted the Coach and told the truth that he started the towel snapping and should be paddled too; which had to be really hard for Joel to do as he mentioned he could hardly get the words out to coach. It was hard for Joel, but he had to take a bare ass paddling in front of our team for punishment; which I witnessed that sad event too and NOBODY LAUGHED and I know everyone was real PROUD of Joel for fessing up and taking his punishment because we knew Joel didn't get spanked growing up!

Probably the last adult that Joel has confronted is our principal this year, same principal Joel got paddled last year from for no detention; and this was to help me out back in March of this year. Go back to March 19,2010 in this Forum and you'll see where I got a paddling from the principal. I'm ashamed to report that I swore at a teacher, but fessed up to it right away and was to get paddled for it, but Joel and Kyle went to the principal without my knowledge when they heard I was going to get a paddling the same day this happened and Joel did most of the talking I understand to the principal and he saved my ass for one day not getting paddled until next day as we had a semi-regional basketball game, which we won that night, and Joel was worried that if I got paddled that my ass would be too sore to play basketball and we might lose the game, but we later won that night, thanks to Joel talking with the principal and I understand he was shaking like a leaf and had a hard time getting words out in his "negotiation talk" but he saved my ass for one day not getting a paddling, until the next day.

So Joel has a little experience confronting adults in talking, not knowing if it might involve getting a spanking or paddling; but for the confrontation/talk he went to do with Kyle's dad about the window breaking when Joel and Kyle were little kids had to be REALLY HARD for Joel; despite Joel thinking of Kyle's dad as a "second father", but I'm not sure what kind of a realtionship Joel and Kyle's dad has had over the years, but I'm assuming friendly like, like any guy would have visiting a buddy at his house and seeing and talking with their dad there, etc. over the years since Kyle and Joel have been friends growing up together.

So, did this maybe answer your questions about whether or not Joel can confront adults pretty good or has trouble doing so? The day of Joel's paddling from Kyle's dad was not the first time Joel confronted an adult ...but...like all the other times it had to scare the crap out of Joel, not knowing what to expect and how he would come out of it; even if Joel considers Kyle's dad like a second father.

But for Kyle's dad to keep a "grudge" over a broken window against Joel all of these years is STUPID, REDICULOUS and is beyond believe to me.

After Joel got that paddling, and later after we got back to Joel's house, of course us buddies always ask to see "the damages" from the paddling when a buddy gets one, and its NOT TO MAKE FUN of them...its a "Guy Thing" I guess we've grown up with; but when we saw Joel's little ass, sure it was red like other paddlings he's gotten and shared with us the after effects, but I would like to say Kyle's dad put extra, extra redness into this paddling and had to for MORE pain than any paddling I want to believe that Joel has gotten from anybody else!

I don't know if I've helped in this matter or not. You be the judge, Bill and let me know?

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