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Date Posted: 02/28/02 12:47pm
In reply to:
ozboy
's message, "Clever Biscuit." on 02/28/02 9:31am
>from Damoclese: It seems to me that you apply some
>notion that the sanctity of human life should be held
>in high regard.
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>>>> who's a smart cookie then!
Beats me, but I can tell you one thing, it's one thing to hold a position and justify it; it's another to be condescending and pontificate it. So far, you fall into the latter.
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>from oz: because people don't die un-necessarily.
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>from Damoclese: and why is that necessarily a good
>thing?
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>>>> WTF!?!
Again, incredulity doesn't help me understand why you hold the views you do. Obviously you must view death to be a bad thing, now I ask why?
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>from Damoclese: I'm not at all convinced that human
>life should be held in any higher regard than say, the
>life of an animal.
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>>>> I'll let your therapist deal with that one.
Ozboy, master of insult, holder of opinions without sustenance.
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>from Damoclese: Should I be so fond of human life
>over animal life for any reason you can think of?
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>>>> remind me never to kick your cat!
More fun from ozoboy's corner.
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>from Damoclese: Oh yeah? What if that human being is
>killing other human beings? Should we let him continue
>on his rampage until few human beings are left?
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>>>> Why is it that someone who doesn't support the
>death penalty is automatically accused of wanting the
>murderers to go free?
No one ever said that. I posed a hypothetical. You said there was no reason that we should ever take another person's life. I proposed this scenario that I noticed you avoided answering.
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>Understand this ... a person who takes the life of
>another in a premeditated fashion should die in gaol
>of natural causes .... and they don't do they
>Damoclese!?!
Why should they die of natural causes? You haven't explained this.
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>.... and why don't they? ... because it's cheaper to
>kill ...and of course it takes up less space and you
>don't have to guard a dead person! ... life is cheap
>and the bible only helps a killers cause!
Maybe these are factors in the decision, but I seriously doubt that these are the factors that determine whether or not someone dies. I think the reason killers are executed is because it gives the victims peace of mind; the peace of mind that comes from the fact that they know that person can never ever harm anyone again. It also protects the society from harm.
Ironically, the whole ideal of life as being sacrosanct is derived from the judeo-christian belief system of ethics. In greece, infanticide wasn't uncommon, nor was it uncommon in other places around the world.
We have no qualms with putting our animals out of misery by euthanising them, and the same is true of the medical profession with people (in some cases). Obviously, at some point the sanctity of life is questionable, but since you seem to espouse the fact that it isn't questionable without giving any appropriate reasons, you probably shouldn't knock the Bible so hard, because it would seem you unwittingly believe in at least one of its influential teachings.
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>Another reason is truth in sentencing.... if you get
>life, you get life ... without any chance of parole!
>Society can easily afford the cost.
Uh, how is sentencing someone to rot in prison until they die any different that executing them? Either way, you are determining their death.
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>Lack of freedom is the greatest punishment! ... let
>them have the unavoidable feelings of being human and
>not be able to satisfy them.
This sounds romantically poetic, but unless you know what happens after we die, I don't think you are really basing this on reality. What is known is that as long as a person lives who is capable of harming society they have the potential to harm it again. When they are dead, it's a done deal.
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>Let evolution do the killing.
If society and man hadn't interferred to change the environment, it probably would have. It's useless in the realm of justice to utter this platitude however.
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