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Date Posted: 17:27:34 05/02/19 Thu
Author: Nicky
Subject: Re: Foundation garments, girdles, relationships
In reply to: Tom Sleifer 's message, "Re: Foundation garments, girdles, relationships" on 06:00:29 05/02/19 Thu

Tom
Again you say some interesting things. Perhaps I should say that I`m also heterosexual and my interest really extends to women who wear girdles and like you I find a women in a girdle can have a amazing effect on me too. But I have to add that it has to be the right kind of girdle - especially ones from the 50s and 60s age of glamour. A panty girdle from this era can be especially appealing I find. Perhaps that is also true for you too? In my opinion they were skilfully and deliberately constructed to be seductive and flattering for a woman (and appealing to a man)in order to enhance possibly the most feminine dresses and gowns ever created by any era.
Throughout the ages corsetry was indeed worn by men and women not only for reasons of fashion but also to improve posture. And if a man finds it necessary to wear a girdle then that is his decision. Nothing wrong or unusual with that as far as I`m concerned. The fact that society regards the wearing of a girdle as something only women do may have more to do with an ignorance of fashion history?

I`m afraid to say that I`ve never had the good fortune to talk to women on the internet about the wearing of foundation wear or how it affected their relationships. It would have been interesting to find out how often and how many wives or girlfriends slipped girdles on in order to please their husbands and boyfriends. I susect from what I`ve read so far a good deal more than we think, but perhaps we`ll never know for sure.
I am surprised that women can develope a girdle fetish though. They say that it almost exclusively men who develop a fetish for female underwear. Could you be sure they were women`s voices?
Yes, I think that professional corsetieres from the Golden Age of foundation wear were very skilled in the fitting of a bra and girdle. I can well believe that a certain amount of training must have been absolutely necessary as the girdles from that time were, as we know, much firmer due to the extra panelling and boning used in their constructon. But the plus side was that they really did work and got the most out of a women`s figure and it`s true I`ve also heard that some women were quite strongly aroused when they wore one.
Interesting to hear that underwear was neve discussed in your house. Quite believe it. It certainly wasn`t in ours. Great discussion!


>I agree and on Girdles and More there was a chat room
>for us to get to know each other. I sure wish that
>somebody would bring these websites back again.
>
>As far as the Girdle Fetish - interesting enough there
>is a difference between being a Cross Dresser and
>having a Girdle Fetish. For myself I am very much a
>hetrosexual, but I sure love women in vintage girdle
>that has an amazing effect on me.
>
>Back during the Golden Age of Girdles 40s, 50s, 60s
>and even today society has for some odd reason labled
>girdles for women only so it is looked down upon by
>overall society if men wear girdles. Interesting
>enough historically men did wear corsets back around I
>believe the 16th - 17th century.
>
>As far as women and discussing underwear back then -
>that subject was never ever mentioned considered off
>limits. I believe it had something to do the
>victorian era and some forms of what is considered
>morality. Women just did not talk with men about
>underwear.
>
>My Grandmother was from Vienna Austria and she was
>from the Victorian era, she wore a corset everyday,
>where my mom and aunt would either be corseted or
>girdled everday. They would not discuss their
>foundation underwear with my dad or myself I just
>overheard them talk about being Girdle and Corset
>Dependent, and that they really loved being corseted
>or girdled everyday, and they would never ever leave
>the house without a girdle or a corset.
>
>Going to a professional corsetiere was something else
>and I learned a lot from her, she was totally amazing.
>There is interesting enough both a pschological and
>physiological component to get the point like my mom
>grandmother and aunt were you become totally Girdle
>Dependent and needing to be daily always in a girdle.
>
>What I also learned which is again not talked about is
>that women who wear a girdle everday feel somewhat
>sexy.
>I have talked to women via the internet and confirmed
>this also. Women also like you and I can also develop
>a Girdle Fetish.
>
>Spencer Trained Corsetieres back then were very well
>trained on the both the psychological as were as the
>phyiological parts of Girdle and Corset Training.
>
>I asked my corsetiere if as a man could I become
>Girdle Dependent like my mom, grandmother and aunt.
>She told me it didn't matter if you are male or female
>once you go through Girdle or Corset Training you will
>become totally dependent and need to wear a girdle
>everyday and you will love being girdled like women
>did in the Golden Age of Girdles. What actually
>happens is once you experience the overall real
>benefits that a vintage girdle does give you you will
>be always in a girdle, the benefits are that great -
>which is true. You do get to point again male or
>female where you absolutly will need to be girdled.
>
>For myself and because of the internet I was able to
>do some research into both the psychological and
>physiolocial parts and taking my own personal
>experience with a professional corsetiere I was able
>to learn a lot of what corsetiere were trained on, and
>I am doing what I can to pass this knowledge on.
>
>I personally believe that well trained professional
>corsetieres were very aware of how beneficial being in
>a vintage firm boned girdled everyday really is. I
>believe vintage girdles will finally make a serious
>comeback into fashion once people learn and experience
>the benefits a girdle does give you. But it does take
>time to experience those benefits like a few weeks to
>even months.
>
>Good discussion - thank you.
>
>TOM
>
>>Tom
>>Yes it is a pity that those foundation wear websites
>>are no longer around. They were I think very well and
>>tastefully presented. As a teenager and indeed for
>>many years I was always careful to hide my fetish for
>>a woman in a girdle especially as I thought, for some
>>reason, at the time that I was the only one. I
>>certainly never discussed it with anyone. Did you at
>>that age? It was only when a girlfriend of mine in
>>those early years thought she was putting on weight
>>and asked me if I thought she should wear a girdle
>>that I gave myself away. She soon discovered my secret
>>but was very understandng and wore a girdle like the
>>Smoothie in this link:
>>
>>https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d7/d9/b4/d7d9b4e5441c25
>4
>>96aa0eb39d3ffacd0.jpg
>>
>>I have to admit that I never realized just how strong
>>a girdle fetish could be till then.
>>It was refreshing and came as a great relief to find
>>out that so many men had a girdle fetish on the sites
>>you mention and that it was a lot more common than I
>>had realized.
>>From what you said it doesn`t surprise me at all that
>>you developed a strong girdle fetish especially
>>growing up in a household where girdles were worn
>>regularly and possibly discussed so blatantly.
>>
>>I don`t think women were always that subtle or dicreet
>>when it came to their underwear especially towards
>>young teenage boys, who as you know are very
>>susceptiple to anything feminine in their early teens,
>>do you? I can well believe that many of those school
>>girls did want to immitate their Mums in order to feel
>>grown up. Perhaps one shouldn`t forget that morality
>>was very different in those days, so the mother`s fear
>>of their daughters becoming pregnant was a serious
>>problem and taken very seriously - especially before
>>the pill was freely available. I`ve also heard that
>>many mother`s insisted that their daugters wear a
>>girdle when they went out on a date. Very interesting
>>article, so fit is the real key to comfort!
>>
>>>I wish The Girdle Zone and Girdle and More websites
>>>were not shutdown, these were great websites where we
>>>could all get to know each other men and women who
>>>love vintage girdles. I did what I could to set this
>>>up so we could connect as best as possible.
>>>
>>>In my case besides living in a house with 3 corseted
>>>or girdled women who really loved being corseted and
>>>girdled everyday - I also lived near a Catholic Girls
>>>school. All of the girls at the school were always
>in
>>>a girdle daily, and the ones I knew like my mom,
>>>grandmother, and aunt loved being in vintage girdles
>>>everday. What I also knew and this I definitly
>>>overheard is when growing up they would look to their
>>>girdled moms, and they absolutly couldn't wait to be
>>>girdled everday day. Wearing everday a vintage
>girdle
>>>was a sign of being grown up and becoming a lady.
>The
>>>other reason young girls that I knew were encoraged
>to
>>>wear girdles is to protect them from having sex and
>>>getting preganant.
>>>
>>>Yes I know there were some girls that did not like
>>>being girdled, but they were very rare. I believe
>the
>>>reason why is I know for a fact my mom, grandmother
>>>and aunt and the girls I knew from the school and
>>>other girls in my neighborhood were all fitted and
>>>trained by professional corsetiers.
>>>
>>>Proper training and fitting by professional
>>>corsetieres that really knew their trade is absolutly
>>>essential to help get to the point where you really
>do
>>>experience daily the wonderful benefits a vintage
>>>girdle will give you without questions. Otherwise
>>>what can happen if you do not go to a professional
>>>corsetiere for proper fitting and training there is a
>>>good possiblity you will experience being somewhat
>>>uncomfortable in a girdle.
>>>
>>>In my case since I do have a very strong girdle
>fetish
>>>I was very curious about what it would be like and to
>>>experience what young girls and women back in the
>>>Golden Age of Girdles did when the went through being
>>>properly fitted and when Girdle Training by a
>>>professional corsetiere. I wondered can you really
>>>get to point where are always very comfortable in a
>>>girdle and you love being girdled everday. Countary
>>>to some of negative propaganda you hear that wearing
>a
>>>girdle is uncomfortable.
>>>
>>>I located a male friendly professionally trained
>>>corsetiere who both fit me and put me through Girdle
>>>Training very much like what the girls and women did
>>>back during the Golden Age of Girdles. After going
>>>through the training and fitting I was totally amazed
>>>of the overall benefits of being daily in a girdle
>>>really is, and I decided to document and I created a
>>>web page that basically explains the fitting and
>>>girdle training by a corsetiere.
>>>
>>>https://toms0321.wordpress.com/2015/02/23/the-health-
>b
>>e
>>>nefits-from-daily-wearing-a-vintage-girdle/
>>>
>>>I have chatted with some women who have gone through
>>>the training I posted, and they absolutly confirmed
>to
>>>me how much now they now love being daily in a
>vintage
>>>girdle. Actually they told me you do get to the
>point
>>>if you are not in a girdle you feel quite
>>>uncomfortable, something feels missing and you just
>do
>>>not feel dressed. They told me with out a vintage
>>>girdle (very firm boned girdle - not spanx) their
>>>posture falls apart, their clothes do not fit, and
>>>they found they have very low energy. They found
>>>after the training they hated being in Spanx, and
>>>really loved being in a vintage girdle.
>>>
>>>Let me know your thoughts on this.
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>TOM

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