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Date Posted: 17:29:42 01/17/03 Fri
Author: LisaE
Subject: Re: T.P. :(
In reply to: Ann 's message, "T.P. :(" on 16:13:11 01/17/03 Fri

Sorry Ann, I never see any here either. If I ever do find any at all though I will let you know:)

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[> [> Re: T.P. :( -- Ann, 12:09:05 01/18/03 Sat

LOL, Cindy. Then there are those old-fashioned, one-sheet-at-a-time squares sometimes still found in public bathrooms. Talk about uncomfortable--you could probably cut your, um, bottom using those things, and I'm sure they were a vast improvment over the corn cob!
I'm jealous you could get color TP if you wanted to! Eugene is very "environmental" so maybe that's it. But then, why are the colorful tissues and paper towels still available. It's a mystery to me.
Speaking of paper towels, I try to reuse them if I've just dried my hands or wiped up a few drips of water. Sponges are more economical, but they are so full of germs! I wash mine in the dishwasher, but I still worry. Ma must have used rags, I guess.

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[> [> [> Re: T.P. :( Ann -- Cindy C, 10:54:47 01/19/03 Sun

Yes, I know what you mean about the sponges and the germs and I worry too, about whether or not the dishwasher can keep them sanitized enough. I think Ma probably used rags for everything.. I have always said that I would have liked to have grown up in the 19th century for many of the simpler things that were of the norm back then... but this toilet paper, paper towel, corn cob, sponge discussion got me to thinking that I wouldn't have liked to have had my cycle in those days.. the modern conviences of today are a God-send..I don't think it would have been too great to have to wash those rags out( or did they throw them away?). That is just to gross to think about, isn't it?

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[> [> [> [> Re: T.P. :( Ann -- Ann, 13:00:15 01/19/03 Sun

I hate to imagine using rags during one's cycle. No wonder they used to call it The Curse! Even switching from pads to tampons was such a difference! Some people complain about menopause, but I tell you I certainly don't miss having my period! That LHOP episode when Ma went through "the change" always bugged me. She already had 4 kids, and her contribution to the family was huge, so the idea that not having more kids meant she was "washed up" (even though it was only in her mind) was so annoying! Yeah, I know, it turned out okay in the end, but I still found it irritating.

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[> [> [> [> [> Re: T.P. :( Ann -- Cindy C, 14:59:10 01/19/03 Sun

I had a hysterectomy when I was 30, and Thank God that I had what I wanted.. a girl and a boy.. so there was no reason for me to fret about not being fertile anymore, and I looked forward to not having the monthly nuisance come my way. I wonder tho, if back in those Days when the Ingalls were living, if becoming infertile, or having always been barren was something that truly bothered the women, since it was something that they were able to contribute to life. I mean, back then, it was truly a mans world, and the men felt worthy in their hard work, and all of the rights that they had.. but women, I think, were passive, doing their womenly duties, and standing behind her family. Maybe having children made them feel more worthy? Just a thought.

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[> [> [> [> [> [> Worth? -- Ann, 22:17:11 01/20/03 Mon

Oh, I don't doubt the abililty to have children was extremely important. It's just that on the show, Ma already has 4 children, and she's portrayed as being the backbone of the family. Now doing a show about a woman back then who couldn't have *any* children and who was frantic about it I think would have been more realistic. I mean, even today, people with fertility problems get understandably upset.
If the show had kept going and they'd had the Boasts trying to buy Rose because they couldn't have chilren, I think it would have been more in the realm of the real-life LHOP.

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