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Re: Today's game -- bs, 09/12/15 7:11:02pm Sat
audio
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Re: Today's game -- TheGreenCoat, 09/12/15 7:20:48pm Sat
some things never change...the "live" feed sucks, the offense under Hunt is miserable...I like the color guy on the feed...good insights, objective, and not afraid to criticize The Gate...he's the highlight of my night... and, as usual, there is obviously a lot to criticize...
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Re: Today's game -- get em gate, 09/12/15 7:23:07pm Sat
>audio
No offense, absolutely no defense ,no pass rush, no tackling, worse than Navy game. Gate tossed in the towel at end of first half by running out the clock. What better way to tell the team and fans you have no confidence in the team.
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Re: Today's game -- TheGreenCoat, 09/12/15 7:32:24pm Sat
>>audio
>
> No offense, absolutely no defense ,no pass rush, no
>tackling, worse than Navy game. Gate tossed in the
>towel at end of first half by running out the clock.
>What better way to tell the team and fans you have no
>confidence in the team.
totally agree...they play not to lose...it may have worked for Biddle, but so far, this guy is no Biddle...bring back the flying wedge and outlaw the pass...
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Re: Today's game -- gate, 09/12/15 7:27:55pm Sat
After all the hype...we may have been better pre-scholarship.
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Re: Today's game -- The Future, 09/12/15 7:34:08pm Sat
The last time Colgate played UNH they were down 40-6 at the half.
D has given up almost 300 yards.
Colgate's play action is working.
Two biggest plays called back for holds sucks.
Fumbling on the 18 hurts.
Missed FG hurts.
Getting the ball to the UNH 20 three times with no points to show for it is tough to overcome.
Steffen out really hurts.
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Re: Today's game -- TheGreenCoat, 09/12/15 8:11:34pm Sat
>The last time Colgate played UNH they were down 40-6
>at the half.
>
>D has given up almost 300 yards.
>
>Colgate's play action is working.
>Two biggest plays called back for holds sucks.
>Fumbling on the 18 hurts.
>Missed FG hurts.
>Getting the ball to the UNH 20 three times with no
>points to show for it is tough to overcome.
>Steffen out really hurts.
what hurts is moronic play-calling, no apparent QB on the team who can throw a football and a embarrassingly bad offense...s***-can the "read option" 'cause no talented QB who can really throw the ball is ever going to show up in Hamilton if we continue to run it...McCarney and Sullivan were exceptions and they were banged up during their careers...good night
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Come on 'gate!!! -- The Future, 09/12/15 8:27:07pm Sat
>>The last time Colgate played UNH they were down 40-6
>>at the half.
>>
>>D has given up almost 300 yards.
>>
>>Colgate's play action is working.
>>Two biggest plays called back for holds sucks.
>>Fumbling on the 18 hurts.
>>Missed FG hurts.
>>Getting the ball to the UNH 20 three times with no
>>points to show for it is tough to overcome.
>>Steffen out really hurts.
>what hurts is moronic play-calling, no apparent QB on
>the team who can throw a football and a embarrassingly
>bad offense...s***-can the "read option" 'cause no
>talented QB who can really throw the ball is ever
>going to show up in Hamilton if we continue to run
>it...McCarney and Sullivan were exceptions and they
>were banged up during their careers...good night
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Re: Come on 'gate!!! -- TheGreenCoat, 09/12/15 8:57:46pm Sat
>>>The last time Colgate played UNH they were down 40-6
>>>at the half.
>>>
>>>D has given up almost 300 yards.
>>>
>>>Colgate's play action is working.
>>>Two biggest plays called back for holds sucks.
>>>Fumbling on the 18 hurts.
>>>Missed FG hurts.
>>>Getting the ball to the UNH 20 three times with no
>>>points to show for it is tough to overcome.
>>>Steffen out really hurts.
>>what hurts is moronic play-calling, no apparent QB on
>>the team who can throw a football and a embarrassingly
>>bad offense...s***-can the "read option" 'cause no
>>talented QB who can really throw the ball is ever
>>going to show up in Hamilton if we continue to run
>>it...McCarney and Sullivan were exceptions and they
>>were banged up during their careers...good night
defense decent...a few missed tackles, but better overall team speed and no quit...hope Stephan is OK...offense is simply bad, predictable play calling and a team that really can't throw the ball very well, especially deep...
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Re: Come on 'gate!!! -- Oldtimer, 09/12/15 9:03:43pm Sat
>>>>The last time Colgate played UNH they were down 40-6
>>>>at the half.
>>>>
>>>>D has given up almost 300 yards.
>>>>
>>>>Colgate's play action is working.
>>>>Two biggest plays called back for holds sucks.
>>>>Fumbling on the 18 hurts.
>>>>Missed FG hurts.
>>>>Getting the ball to the UNH 20 three times with no
>>>>points to show for it is tough to overcome.
>>>>Steffen out really hurts.
>>>what hurts is moronic play-calling, no apparent QB on
>>>the team who can throw a football and a
>embarrassingly
>>>bad offense...s***-can the "read option" 'cause no
>>>talented QB who can really throw the ball is ever
>>>going to show up in Hamilton if we continue to run
>>>it...McCarney and Sullivan were exceptions and they
>>>were banged up during their careers...good night
>defense decent...a few missed tackles, but better
>overall team speed and no quit...hope Stephan is
>OK...offense is simply bad, predictable play calling
>and a team that really can't throw the ball very well,
>especially deep...
I know this was a game the coaches expected to be tough and they wanted to keep the 1st string in there but what better opportunity to try out some other QBS. Melville was good his first year and last year when he came back but he has had two games to show he has matured and be even better and he has played poorly. 3 incompletions from the 12 to end the game...very disappointing...
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Re: Come on 'gate!!! -- Lennie, 09/12/15 9:08:05pm Sat
It must be a Colgate tradition "Never,ever let another QB have a chance."
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Re: Come on 'gate!!! -- gate, 09/12/15 9:31:31pm Sat
Have suggested another QB every time and get lambasted on here. Melville is mediocre at best which is ok if that's all you have. At halftime, even the Colgate announcers said he is not carrying the team the way a QB should. 'nuf said.
The score was our best against UNH in several tries. Either we are better or they are worse, take your pick. The outcome is still the same. Have not intentionally missed a home game in 16 years until tonight.
One would think with 2 games under our belt - one being FBS Navy - that we would have an advantage over Yale at Homecoming. Wouldn't bet on it.
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Re: Come on 'gate!!! -- Maven, 09/12/15 11:16:52pm Sat
>Have suggested another QB every time and get lambasted
>on here. Melville is mediocre at best which is ok if
>that's all you have. At halftime, even the Colgate
>announcers said he is not carrying the team the way a
>QB should. 'nuf said.
>
>The score was our best against UNH in several tries.
>Either we are better or they are worse, take your
>pick. The outcome is still the same. Have not
>intentionally missed a home game in 16 years until
>tonight.
>
>One would think with 2 games under our belt - one
>being FBS Navy - that we would have an advantage over
>Yale at Homecoming. Wouldn't bet on it.
Melville not good. Poor mechanics: throws off back foot and flushes easily from pocket. Inaccurate although #3 had three drops and TE dropped TD pass. Long way to go although PL appears weak.
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Sunday Morning -- gate, 09/13/15 10:18:32am Sun
Future, thank you...I am quick to pass judgment far too often and appreciate the optimism and reality check. Honestly, it is only b/c 'Gate is in my blood 24/7/365 and watching them struggle in any sport is emotionally difficult. You paint a much brighter, broader picture. Emotions are hard to check as the game is being played but the analysis afterward is a bit more comforting and revealing.
Hunt said last week that Sunday morning he felt better; perhaps he feels the same today after our loss.
The PL as a whole is struggling a bit with early season losses. The CAA continues to have our number once again.
Losses:
W&M
JMU
UNH
Duquesne
St. Francis
Nova
Wins:
CCSU
Marist (x2)
Army
Monmouth
Can't help but think that it took Fordham a few years of suffering during its transition to scholarships before it blew the rest of us out of the water. In two more years, perhaps the playing field will reveal the same results for the rest of the PL and we can finally beat UNH for the first (?) time.
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Re: Today's game -- agatefan, 09/13/15 10:30:18am Sun
>D played very well in the second half. Held them to
>two field goals. UNH had 97 yards of offense in the
>second half. Four of their six drives were three and
>outs. Colgate's D played very well against Navy in the
>second half as well. Not sure how much this is the
>opposition taking their foot off the gas, but boy
>would it be good if those adjustments could be made
>before the second quarter instead of the second half.
>half D to start.
UNH put their backup qb in
adjustments need to be made before the game is out of reach and the opponent is pulling starters off the field
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Re: Today's game -- The Future, 09/13/15 10:50:22am Sun
Holy cow. I had no idea UNH pulled Goldrich. Between getting kicked off the internet a dozen times and learning entirely too much about Mark van Eeghen (couldn't he have been interviewed for all of halftime instead of all of the 3rd quarter?) I missed that. Goldrich had a three and out to start the second half and then was pulled.
I was going to say to '80 that the team Colgate had gained on was actually UNH--this game had the first meaningful 4th quarter in a long time. Feel a little differently about it if Goldrich was pulled and not put back in as opposed to hurt.
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Re: Today's game -- pigskin, 09/13/15 11:16:32am Sun
>I was going to say to '80 that the team Colgate had
>gained on was actually UNH--this game had the first
>meaningful 4th quarter in a long time. Feel a little
>differently about it if Goldrich was pulled and not
>put back in as opposed to hurt.
It's time to try Bret Mooney at QB. He's 6'4" and about 210 lbs. He was touted as a drop back pro-type QB who could throw the ball 60 yds. It's time for the WRs to run their routes - especially Quazza and Greenawalt - and let Mooney drop the ball into their hands downfield. This would open up the offense and give Wilkens and Holland some room.
BTW, I was thrown off the internet after the first quarter until the 4th. Guess I missed the Van Eeagan long interview but was able to see 'Gate actually look a bit better at the end of the game, or at least score. FWIW, The announcers need to be sure their mikes are plugged into electrical outlets, not the wind turbines. Onward to Yale!
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Re: Today's game -- analyzer, 09/14/15 5:33:49pm Mon
Thanks Mr. Mooney. I think he "looks" like a QB but Jake is quite good at all but one part of his job. Dropping back and putting the ball on target for more than an 8 yard in or out. And please stop with the bubble and flat passes, he just cannot do those.
Overall, Russell is a great runner but needs to stop with the dropsies. And get the usually reliable wide receivers some better stick 'em.
Defense hung in there all day against UNH after being demoralized against Navy. Tough go against Yale and then 3 straight wins against Holy Cross, Cornell, Princeton and Georgetown will have us at 4-3 or 5-2 and then the fun starts.
Quite worried that we end 2-2 at best (loss to Fordham and one of the 3 losses to LU, LC and Bucknell). That means we went 6-5 overall and 4-2 in conference, which is a very mediocre year kind of like kissing your sister.
Hope the guys step up and go 'gate.
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Re: Today's game -- agatefan, 09/14/15 8:38:28pm Mon
>Defense hung in there all day against UNH after being
>demoralized against Navy.
They gave up OVER 300 yards in the FIRST half and UNH put their backup QB in for the 2nd half...c'mon !!!
that's not exactly hangin in there!
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Re: Today's game -- Critic, 09/13/15 11:18:58am Sun
>Holy cow. I had no idea UNH pulled Goldrich. Between
>getting kicked off the internet a dozen times and
>learning entirely too much about Mark van Eeghen
>(couldn't he have been interviewed for all of halftime
>instead of all of the 3rd quarter?) I missed that.
>Goldrich had a three and out to start the second half
>and then was pulled.
>
>I was going to say to '80 that the team Colgate had
>gained on was actually UNH--this game had the first
>meaningful 4th quarter in a long time. Feel a little
>differently about it if Goldrich was pulled and not
>put back in as opposed to hurt.
Yesterday's game, ALL things considered including dismal attendance and zero students, is just another reason to never have another 6 PM game.
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Also raining and cool -- Al Roker, 09/13/15 2:15:38pm Sun
Which had more to do with poor attendance than the starting time.
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Re: Today's game -- Gate Raider, 09/13/15 12:30:48pm Sun
Got that right. The night games have been terrible for fan attendance. After the 1st half the stands were almost empty except for some parents. If there must be late games, start them at 4.
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Re: Today's game -- Hoodie, 09/13/15 7:21:18pm Sun
>Got that right. The night games have been terrible
>for fan attendance. After the 1st half the stands
>were almost empty except for some parents. If there
>must be late games, start them at 4.
Weather or starting time? Weather is irrelevant for a 6 PM contest, IMHO. It simply is! The few students who attend, and fans in general, are much more likely to make a 1 PM game. I've been at the few we've had and I've had enough.
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UNH? -- 'gate80, 09/13/15 12:54:07pm Sun
In the last 10 years UHN has averaged 9.3 wins, been in the playoffs all 10 years, with 10 playoff wins. Colgate has averaged 6.6 wins, has 4 losing seasons, and a playoff record of 0-3. Excluding the 8 year Foley/Sweeney era at the height of the gutting, we are at risk for having a losing season for the 3rd year in a row for the first time since the 1950s.
To answer gate's question, we beat UNH the first time we played them in 1986 on the road. And it was during only the 2nd losing season of the Dunlap era, when the effects of the gutting were starting to be felt. UNH was a penciled in win then, now they're a stretch game.
Didn't the horrible forecast and rain keep the attendance down? For those who need to stay overnight to go to a home game, an early season night game helps (I was planning to go until I heard the forecast). I realize there may not be many like me anymore. Perhaps a 4 pm start is a nice compromise.
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Re: Today's game -- TheGreenCoat, 09/13/15 2:24:20pm Sun
>This was a really bad game for 'gate. QB had a bad
>day, needed to do a lot of scrambling, made some bad
>passes and the receivers dropped a lot of balls. Why
>Colgate tried to run up the middle when UNH's
>defensive line clearly was stronger is beyond me. What
>does using three RB's do for productivity? Use
>Wilkens for short yardage and decide whether to use
>Russell of Holland. Let one of them get into the flow
>of the game. The fumble and missed pass in the end
>zone were heart breaking. Play calling is so
>predictable The scholarship era is off to a terrible
>start. Another QB deserves a shot. There is nothing
>to lose. Without some changes I can see a three win
>season.
> And please, stop these night games. No fans show up.
folks, we are recruiting QBs that run as well as pass and I frankly doubt anybody on the squad will be better than Melville...if you are committed to the read option you recruit QBs that fit into that system...and not to be cruel, but Mooney didn't show much last year...we've got to rethink our entire approach on offense fairly soon and get some QBs with decent arms and pocket presence...the defense looks better...the offense is boring, predictable and not effective...
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Re: Steffen Update? -- 60'salum, 09/14/15 9:51:51am Mon
>>The loss of Steffen would be serious for the D. It
>>looked like a serious knee injury and he came back to
>>the sideline on crutches. What's his status?
>
>My understanding is it's serious (ACL/MCL is the
>speculation), both he & Bridgeforth gone for the year.
> Very tough for the D, only bright side is both
>can/will apply for medical redshirts & play next year.
On top of the rainy game, announcers you couldn't hear, the loss to UNH, the 0-2 record, the predictable offense and the sparce attendance, I have to wake up to this news on a Monday morning?!? Geesh!
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UNH -- The Future, 09/15/15 12:11:02am Tue
If Melville's long run isn't called back he rushes for over 100 yards.
How may drops were there? Would certainly help his stats a bunch--and also would have helped open up the running game.
He also missed some wide open receivers that would have led to scores.
This probably says the right plays were being called.
Execution is another thing.
And I certainly have no idea if the right players were out there.
That being said, UNH has absolutely put it to Colgate the past few times they have played (this includes a game against a Colgate playoff team). This was the first time in three games UNH didn't put up 50.
26 points really doesn't sound so bad.
As for Goldrich, he hurt his ankle in the 3rd and left the game.
http://www.wmur.com/sports/unh-beats-colgate-as-goldrich-exits-early/35246874
This game was Colgate mistakes and missed opportunities costing them a shot at winning the game and not Colgate being physically dominated (for the first time in a long time).
If Colgate could have done anything offensively at the end of the game, they could have stolen it. That has not been a remote possibility against UNH in a long time.
At this point, Colgate has played two games.
Navy is a good FBS team.
UNH has been to the playoffs eleven consecutive years.
It's impossible to say how they will be this year but these teams have proven themselves to be very good teams over the past decade.
Against Yale, Colgate will have two senior starters on O and two on D. Seven seniors in the two deep. That is still a very young team.
Including Wingenroth, there will be nine freshmen in the two deep. Ten if you count Martinsen at the two positions he is listed.
There should be around 15 senior starters next year (as the first class of scholarship players become seniors). Another class of freshman will come in and the nine freshman in the two-deep will push for playing time.
The team is getting better.
With a little bit of offense, this team will have a great season. The plays are there. They just have to make them.
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Re: UNH -- Frank Zappa, 09/15/15 7:52:02am Tue
>If Melville's long run isn't called back he rushes for
>over 100 yards.
>How may drops were there? Would certainly help his
>stats a bunch--and also would have helped open up the
>running game.
>He also missed some wide open receivers that would
>have led to scores.
>This probably says the right plays were being called.
>Execution is another thing.
>And I certainly have no idea if the right players were
>out there.
>
>That being said, UNH has absolutely put it to Colgate
>the past few times they have played (this includes a
>game against a Colgate playoff team). This was the
>first time in three games UNH didn't put up 50.
>26 points really doesn't sound so bad.
>
>As for Goldrich, he hurt his ankle in the 3rd and left
>the game.
>
>
>href="http://www.wmur.com/sports/unh-beats-colgate-as-g
>oldrich-exits-early/35246874">http://www.wmur.com/sport
>s/unh-beats-colgate-as-goldrich-exits-early/35246874
>>
>
>This game was Colgate mistakes and missed
>opportunities costing them a shot at winning the game
>and not Colgate being physically dominated (for the
>first time in a long time).
>
>If Colgate could have done anything offensively at the
>end of the game, they could have stolen it. That has
>not been a remote possibility against UNH in a long
>time.
>
>At this point, Colgate has played two games.
>Navy is a good FBS team.
>UNH has been to the playoffs eleven consecutive years.
>It's impossible to say how they will be this year but
>these teams have proven themselves to be very good
>teams over the past decade.
>
>Against Yale, Colgate will have two senior starters on
>O and two on D. Seven seniors in the two deep. That is
>still a very young team.
>
>Including Wingenroth, there will be nine freshmen in
>the two deep. Ten if you count Martinsen at the two
>positions he is listed.
>
>There should be around 15 senior starters next year
>(as the first class of scholarship players become
>seniors). Another class of freshman will come in and
>the nine freshman in the two-deep will push for
>playing time.
>
>The team is getting better.
>
>With a little bit of offense, this team will have a
>great season. The plays are there. They just have to
>make them.
We expected to be 0-2 and we are. Be realistic, season starts this week vs Yale, another tough game but at least we have a decent chance. A win this week starts a great season or, not saying it.
How about turning down the volume on the scoreboard, now that is obnoxious listening to rap music between plays.
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Re: UNH -- The Future, 09/15/15 8:29:57am Tue
Frank Zappa, was there ever a time in your life where you liked loud music that didn't appeal to old people?
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