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Subject: Can you name any fixed pageants either state or national? Author: No name [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 14:42:53 04/18/26 Sat Author Host/IP: NoHost/172.58.242.255 Besides the obvious Miss Universe I was wondering if there had been any other questionable outcomes The only one I can recall is back at Miss USA in 98 .There were 2 former Miss Teen USA,Calif Shauna Gambill and Iowa Jamie sollinger. It was said that they would only allow 1 to make the top 10 but not both. Was that fair?? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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Subject Author Date I really should protect my peace lol, but I truly am getting so irritated with conspiracy theories like this. Do I think there are likely pageants out there that have less-than-stellar judging procedures (like allowing a state director to sit in on judges' meetings and contribute to conversation), sure! There are bad actors in all industries and all programs. But there is no evidence that pageants in general are corrupt. First of all, why on Earth would they be? What acounting firm is going to put their reputation on the line just to fix the outcome of a pageant? Literally what would there incentive be? And in this case, who on gods green Earth would care if both of these women made the Top 10? If they did, how would it have effected *anyone* negatively, much less *so* negatively that they would take steps to commandeer the auditing process to fudge the results. Please tell me one reason why anyone would care that much. This is pageantry, this is not a presidential election... (NT) Pageant Statistician (I know I'm going in hard here, but I'm at my wits end with this lol) (108-248-242-254.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/108.248.242.254) 19:28:09 04/19/26 Sun ...(cont) If there's a result in a pageant that you don't understand, it's extremely silly to look to a conspiracy theory to explain the results instead of just - you know - tacitly accepting the reality that all adults should understand in order to navigate the world responsibly... that some people just have different opinions than you do. (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 19:28:49 04/19/26 Sun (108-248-242-254.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/108.248.242.254) You seem to get so bent out of shape and exasperated when people ask questions or express their opinions, maybe all those stats are beginning to get to you, Pageant Statistician. Perhaps you should just up your blood pressure medication and have a seat. Like you said....it's just a pageant. Nothing to get upset about. (NT) -- No name, 01:42:59 04/20/26 Mon (47.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.47) Can't really disagree with this lol... I'm at a 10 when a 7.5 would do just fine haha. Feedback received! (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 02:10:30 04/20/26 Mon (108-248-242-254.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/108.248.242.254) I totally disagree with you. It is due to corruption that beauty pageants are falling out of favor. There are many directors who want a winner to have rich parents. This way the director does not have to give out much cash preparing a contestant for state. I know several states where, "friend of a friend" becomes a winner. The shadiness is out there. Denying it makes it continue. (NT) -- Pageant Fan, 14:33:25 04/20/26 Mon (NoHost/155.190.9.5) People will 100% continue denying it until people stop just making claims and providing evidence. Or at the very least, make claims that are logical. Not all of the claims are logical; I have, in fact, debunked one in this post. It's that pesky 'innocent until proven guilty' thing, you know? (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 01:24:32 04/21/26 Tue (108-248-242-254.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/108.248.242.254) Miss America 1998, Miss North Carolina 1989, Miss America 2020. (NT) No name (NoHost/172.56.85.132) 00:51:11 04/20/26 Mon Why on earth would you think Miss NC was rigged in 1989? That's crazy talk. (NT) -- No name, 22:33:36 04/21/26 Tue (syn-107-013-032-195.res.spectrum.com/107.13.32.195) I'm assuming the thought is because they left a future Miss America on the stage (Marjorie Vincent was 2RU in Miss NC 1989, before moving to Illinois the next year), but yeah, pretty difficult to have a discussion on a discussion board without a little bit of explanation lolol (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 19:57:42 04/22/26 Wed (108-248-242-254.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/108.248.242.254) So the two VA queens were rigged? Why would they rig it for Nicole Johnson? (NT) -- No name, 14:24:29 04/22/26 Wed (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Virginia did not win Miss America 1998, Illinois did. (NT) -- No name, 14:51:35 04/22/26 Wed (NoHost/172.56.84.7) Oh, well then I disagree even more! Kate Shindle won that thing in interview. No one else even came close (NT) -- No name, 08:40:01 04/23/26 Thu (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Jamie Solinger was kept out of top ten due to her profanity. Rationale: Miss USA cannot show up at a Special Olympics function with the mouth of a sailor. Her EDs were told this post-pageant. (NT) No name (syn-174-098-180-138.res.spectrum.com/174.98.180.138) 05:02:00 04/20/26 Mon Interestinggggg. I am super bullish about the idea that auditors simply do not have the incentive to allow for any malfeasance, but in this scenario, that would probably be a moot point given her directors were informed and given clear rationale. Weird that I never heard this theory in 20 years! (NT) -- Pageant Statistician, 06:00:30 04/20/26 Mon (108-248-242-254.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net/108.248.242.254) I had heard that she had a dirty mouth, but never called out at a specific event. If she was intelligent enough to win Teen USA, you would think she would have known better. What is she up to now? (NT) -- No name, 14:11:01 04/20/26 Mon (47.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.47) She probably invented a new swear word when that 10th name was called. (NT) -- No name, 01:50:37 04/21/26 Tue (47.sub-174-216-0.myvzw.com/174.216.0.47) I heard that too but I also read that they only would allow one of the former teens in the top 10 l would have chosen Jaime, Shauna was entitled and mean (NT) -- No name, 03:42:41 04/21/26 Tue (250.sub-174-245-34.myvzw.com/174.245.34.250) How was Shauna entitled and mean? I was not aware of that. I just know she was a former Miss Teen USA, who finished 1st runner up at Miss USA a few years later. (NT) -- No name, 09:55:37 04/21/26 Tue (NoHost/159.100.209.52) Shauna should have won hands down. Shawnae Jebbia was terrible in every Q&A (NT) -- No name, 14:26:57 04/22/26 Wed (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) When and where did she use profanity? How would they have known? (NT) -- No name, 14:25:02 04/22/26 Wed (pool-72-74-53-82.bstnma.fios.verizon.net/72.74.53.82) Jamie Sollinger Competed for Mrs America and she was 3rd runner up I forget the year. Yes Mrs not Miss . Also, her sister was Miss Iowa at Miss USA 99 the following year but did not place (NT) No name (NoHost/169.156.15.207) 11:49:03 04/21/26 Tue Also... Shauna Gambill was appointed Miss World 1998 There was no pageant . She ended up in the top 7. Its on You tube Behind the scenes Miss World 1998 (NT) No name (NoHost/169.156.15.207) 11:56:47 04/21/26 Tue Not fixed, per say, but I can recall a state pageant where the gal who won was best friends with the choreographer/producer. Definitely rubbed people the wrong way when she won. (NT) No name (c-68-80-167-64.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/68.80.167.64) 21:30:36 04/21/26 Tue Also- -- No name, 11:40:49 04/22/26 Wed (c-174-54-113-18.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/174.54.113.18) Sad to say it's not just PA that's dealing with some dirty coaching practices. (NT) -- No name, 21:22:30 04/22/26 Wed (c-68-80-167-64.hsd1.pa.comcast.net/68.80.167.64)