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Justin
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Date Posted: 06:40:41 12/06/20 Sun
I am sorry SJ, it has never been my intention to offend anyone on here. What I was saying was primarily directed at Carrie, but I should have been more sensitive that everyone on here can read my posts. I never post with the intention of offending anyone. And I was certainly not looking to take a stance on what the Bible says about spanking, because even within Scripture arguments could probably be made both for an against spanking. Honestly this is a whole huge topic that I for one am not qualified to tackle. I for one am a Bible believing Christian, but that doesn't automatically mean that I would one day spank my kids should I have any. I myself was spanked by my Christian parents, but nowhere near what you read on here on what a lot of these girls get. 6 to 10 smacks on my clothed bottom would have been about it and that stopped around 13 to 14 years old. Now, I am also not saying that these girls on here are being mistreated, because I don't think that is the case at all. Different parental backgrounds lead to different views on consequences and discipline.
As far as what the church or Christianity as a whole believes about spanking; I think you would find there are just as many books and well-read Christians against spanking then there are those in favor of it. I think it still has to be a decision by the parent or parents. And it absolutely must be done with love. If you told me you knew people who were abused by their parents with excessive spankings by their "Christian parents", I would not debate you on this. Humans are flawed, and Christian or not we all make mistakes. I guess I am reminded of the verse in Scripture that says,
"Which of you, if your son asks for bread, will give him a stone? Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake? If you, then though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him! So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.
All this to say, that I do not believe the Bible would condone abuse of children. In fact I can find other places in scripture that would also support this. Have people used the Bible to support their own beliefs that hitting children in an abusive way is right, yes most definitely. I am sure some wife or women abusers would say they were doing what they did because they thought God would look favorably on this action. My point is, people are flawed, even or maybe especially Christians. My own reading of scripture has only led me to see how flawed I really am and how much of in need of a Savior I am. When Christians have a holier than though attitude, as if they are better than you, that really bothers me. We are all flawed, broken people. Some people may have things more together then others, but at the end of the day, none of us is perfect.
You are correct though, the Bible should never be used for an excuse to hit or abuse others, children or otherwise. I know within my own church their are different beliefs on corporal punishment. I cannot forget one the last Mens Breakfasts I went to at our church. I overheard one of the men there say that he and the previous Pastor of the church had once had a disagreement on spanking. The Pastor having used it a few times on his own son and this other gentleman being against spanking kids. I think what he was really against though, was that the Pastor had talked openly from the pulpit about using spanking on his own son. This other gentleman said that this could be a strong endorsement of spanking, something of which you probably shouldn't endorse from the pulpit.
Sorry for the long winded reply. I hope you are not further offended by anything I have said here. In all honesty, I probably should just keep my mouth closed on this whole topic. I am not looking to start any kind of argument at all. Again, my message was primarily aimed at Carrie, since I know her community is a primarily Christian based community. I certainly didn't mean to offend anyone else with my comments.
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