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Date Posted: 14:01:52 01/28/00 Fri
Author: Anonymous
Subject: Re: Kuk Valley ditches!
In reply to: 's message, "The signicance of the Kuk Valley in the WHP" on 00:32:23 01/27/00 Thu

Posted in response to AM @ WF.

I didn’t realize the drainage system was that extensive throughout the WHP. You have more or less covered what is already common perceptions about the Kuk vAlley finds. Nonetheless we won’t find much more at Kuk if we continue to employ orthodox research metholodies. Further still why agriculture tasol?

Archaeology, hydrology and what else are all useful tools, but must still be supplemented with other methods. I wonder why archaeologists in other countries are increasingly using satellite photography and imaging to explain large spider drawings and parrallel lines that seemed to go on in an easterly direction for ever in the dry plains of Peru or the old irrigation channels under the deserts in Arabia, or the circular lines in the swamps of the Amazon plains? These unnatural land formations could not have been identified had these researchers continued to poke about in the soil. Satellite photography and imagery is uncovering details which we would never have dreamed. Indeed satellite technology sees under the sands and top soil. I am not into this line of science but research reports and explanations by world reknown scientists seems convincing to me.

There are things which old fashioned archaeology can explain and there are others that can only be understood through advances in satellite technology. Ultimately, we combine the findings to draw our assumptions. That is why I have suggested satellite technology, cost aside if we promote it adequately, someone will evetually offer to assist. The Kuk research site could fund itself given the social and security conditions and political support. I wouldn’t be surprised if NASA already have the KUK site in its inventory. Perhaps th National Museum could ask through diplomatic channels for NASA’s help in this.

I agree developing hypothesis is the way of setting a research agenda, but I go further by suggesting that questions must be investigated using different technologies to explain phenomenas at Kuk or other sites in PNG. Yes hydrologists may come into the picture, so would soil experts archaeologists with interests in prehistoric drainage and swamp systems, dieticians and so on. That is what makes the research more interesting.

I hold a different view on your contention that archaeological evidence cannot tell the type of people who lived at Kuk. The data may appear to be inconclusive to the naked eye but advances in analytical science and technology can explain a lot of what the eye is unable to see. Analysis of the contents of what people ate gathered from their body parts through DA analysis can point the part to existing nearby tribes or communities who may be living somewhere else or already extinct. You say 10,000 years is a long time in archaeological time, I suggest it is short in relative terms, a mere last hour or the other day considering what modern science can do today.

My fascination with the Kuk ditches goes beyond agriculture or human habitation, but what prompted the people to dig those ditches in the first instance. About 10, 000 years would have been the end of the last ice age and perhaps Kuk would have been colder, the water level would have been lower, so there was no need for elaborate drainage. I would hypothesize that the ditches served a number of purposes. Agriculture yes, but what about peoples beliefs or contact with the universe. I have not seen the patterns formed by the Kuk drainage system, yet assuming that they had some sense of life beyond our solar system, then it would make theoretical sense to suggest that the patterns were possibly alinged with the stars in the universe. The study of the form of the drainage system would tell if they have used some mathematical calculation to design the pattern, (using present day mathematical concepts), so as to align it with things beyond the earth. Perhaps our forebearers at Kuk are not so primitive as we make them out to be. What if they used some form of trignomery or some higher mathematics to make those designs. Really many times I think we are intellectually inferior to our ancient ones.

A bit of a wild conjecture, but fascinating dream. Thats what makes discussion like this interesting.

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