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Re: Stonybrook commit -- Josh, 19:10:56 05/22/03 Thu
Glad we got him. From what I've heard though, his running mate in the back-court at Christ the King was the much more sought after player. Heard he ended up at East Carolina.
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Re: Stonybrook commit -- True, 18:29:09 05/31/03 Sat
Japhet McNeil did end up at East Carolina.
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Re: Stonybrook commit -- czar, 22:31:14 05/22/03 Thu
Beauford is athletic and a very good defender. He is a 5'10 2G who doesn't handle or shoot well! Definitely not a pg. Solid get but small for a 2G!
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Re: Stonybrook commit -- czar, 22:44:31 05/22/03 Thu
I am biased towards Albany but I also feel that I know what I am talking about. I think the two best recruits in the AE are the two transfers Albany took.
Luscious Jordan is a 6'3 210 guard who averaged 14ppg for two years in the MAAC at Loyola, MD. He was All Rookie as a frosh and 3rd Team All MAAC this year.
Kiersten Zoellner is a 7'1 290 center from Boston College via Germany. He didn't play much but I hear that he is much much better than Rowe from Maine. He will be an impact on size alone! Billings is only 235 and Rowe was the same. This kid is huge!
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Re: Stonybrook commit -- czar, 22:34:36 05/22/03 Thu
Maybe Munir can tutor him! LOL! He is an explosive athlete! Santiago is a better overall player. Beauford doesn't shoot it or handle it well! Nick should hope Beauford majors in psychology to help him cope with his ANGER problem!!!
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Re: Stonybrook commit -- Ramfan, 23:48:01 05/22/03 Thu
Santiago may be more polished but Beauford is a superior athlete who would have gotten Atlantic 10+ type interest had he been qualified. Albany would love to have Beauford, whether you admit it or not. This is definitely a wait-and-see type of situation academically, as he may not qualify for the fall and be prep-bound, but it if works out for Stony Brook, it's a hell of a pick-up. Do I sense a little bit of jealously, Czar? ;-)
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Re: Stonybrook commit -- czar, 00:11:45 05/23/03 Fri
No jealousy! The kid is explosive and defends. Not a pg. No J and suspect handle. I know the guy's at CTK and Stony Brook was the highest offer he had. Being only 20 pts. away doesn't scare away higher profiled programs. If anything it excites them because alot of kid's sign that are over 100 pts. away. Nice try! It is tough to be successful at DI as a 5'10 2G who doesn't shoot it or isn't a cold blooded scorer! But what does the Czar know!
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Re: Stonybrook commit -- Ramfan, 04:31:31 05/23/03 Fri
I generally agree with your assessment, but I am fairly certain that if Beauford winds up in the America East, he is going to have a very nice career. He was overlooked, in large part, because of his size, and because, like you said, he is basically a 5'10'' shooting guard. HOWEVER, he excelled in the best high school league in the country, and is extremely athletic and a great defender. I don't care how tall he is; he plays three inches taller and has the strength to body up against anyone at that position in the league.
Whether it was grades or size, the bigger schools missed on this one. If he can clear the academic hurdles, he will be very good in this conference. You know that and I know that.
If he preps, bigger fish will come after him, Hofstra among them in the New York area.
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BTW.. -- Ramfan, 04:33:54 05/23/03 Fri
Beauford is in some ways like another undersized shooting guard from New York City who should have been recruited at a much higher level, and I was very vocal about this player's abilities last year. His name is Keydren Clark.
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Re: BTW..-Ramfan -- Patch, 09:28:36 05/23/03 Fri
Your comparison to Clark is way off base, they are not similar. Beauford is a great athlete with a solid body but his handle is no where near Clark's and that's what makes Clark so successful.
If Beauford qualifies he will have a fine career in the AE but how and where will Stony Brook play him. If he's a PG Santiago and the other new kid are on the bench. If Munir plays the Point and Clark the 2G, Clark may never see the ball and the Bigs will never see an entry pass.
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Re: BTW..-Ramfan -- Ramfan, 15:50:14 05/23/03 Fri
I don't need to be told that my comparison is way off base; I've probably seen both of these players twice as many times as you have. The one commonality between the two is that they are undersized combo guards who were overlooked just for that reason. Beyond that, Clark is a pure shooter, and Beauford a pure athlete. There aren't too many similarities past that point. But my point was that they are two undersized combos who deserved to be recruited at a much higher level. Not that their games were similiar in some other regard.
And FYI, it is NOT Clark's ballhandling ability that makes him so good. He is an adequate ballhandler, not a great ballhandler. It's his ability to shoot off the dribble, with hands in his face, or to connect in otherwise difficult situations. He's also a terrific passer with very good vision. But he is not the amazing ballhandler that you are making him out to be.
As far as Beauford, Stony Brook will play him off the ball. He will earn minutes. His defensive capabilities and athleticism will make him a valuable reserve.
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Re: BTW..-Ramfan -- Patch, 18:40:26 05/31/03 Sat
I don't see why we can't have a slight difference of opinion?
Never did I say Clark was an "amazing" ballhandler what I said was the difference (in my humble opinion) was that Clark has a much better handle than Beauford.
And by the way don't think that you are the only one who has seen kids play. You would be surprised at what I do for a living!!!!
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