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Subject: Re: New Years Resolutions

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KevintoCath

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Date Posted: 07:56:17 01/22/24 Mon
In reply to: Cath to Kristina 's message, "Re: New Years Resolutions" on 00:05:25 01/22/24 Mon

>Dear Cath, Thank you for such a wonderful update.
Luv how you and Kristina are disciplning the kids.
One note, how you and your husband get so aroused after thier spankings. Very common, I am sure.
Can lead to having more children. My strict Mom and Dad ended up with seven kids.
God bless...
Write amytime...

>
>This is going to be very, very long--anyone not up for
>a long read please just pass over this--but I am going
>to try to answer the questions you asked me in your
>very thoughtful and encouraging note, Kristina. I hope
>I can clarify or add to some of the things you were
>wondering about.
>
>Q. Did you tell the kids you ordered a new paddle or
>shall it be a surprise?
>A. You’ll laugh, I think. My husband read how you
>made a Christmas gift of a Lexan paddle for each of
>your two, and he thought we should do the same with
>ours even if Christmas has come and gone. I plan to
>wrap whatever box it comes in with some of the
>leftover wrapping and label it to all three, then
>we’ll give it to them at dinner time and tell them
>it’s a late gift. All three of them have heard
>about the Lexan and Debbie, always one to speak her
>mind, often without thinking, said when I mentioned
>these paddles, “A boy in our class said his mum got
>one and he says she spanks him with it forever and
>ever and ever because he doesn’t get bruises!” My
>husband and I laughed at that but Annie and Jimmy
>looked at her like they wanted to strangle her. I did
>tell them I was thinking of getting one.
>
>Q. Tell your husband thank you for allowing you to
>write to me, and thanks for the compliment.
>A. I did, and he said you sound like a real doll
>(don't be offended by that description, that is a big
>complement from him) with a great sense of humor and
>he said he’d bet you give your kids lots of physical
>love, hugs and kisses, like we do.
>
>Q. I will tell you in a follow up post in great detail
>our bedtime routine but I wanted to ask questions
>about yours first, to clarify some things. [As to kids
>making a fuss about going to bed, Kristina, you
>commented]: I feel that begging and fussing like they
>used to about bedtime, should mean bringing them to
>the bathroom, soaping their mouths and putting them
>back to bed, as that I consider backtalk for sure.
>A. Well, thank goodness under our new spankings at
>bedtime routine, we no longer have those problems at
>all—they are completely gone now! Hooray! And they
>really were a constant hassle and irritation for some
>years. However, your point about washing mouths out
>with soap was interesting because we have never done
>that. I think I would like to do that with them from
>time to time as a different punishment and so I would
>be very glad to have more detailed instructions from
>you about how to go about that—what kind of soap,
>how to apply it, how long to leave it in before one
>lets them rinse it out, etc. As I read that
>suggestion I picture myself with the three kids
>standing in line before or after a spanking while I
>washed their mouths out with soap, and I really liked
>that idea, and I thought, indeed, that could be a nice
>addition to their discipline—no danger of any real
>harm (if one does so carefully)--but a very
>uncomfortable and tear-producing experience for them I
>would think. Am I right?
>
>Q. That fifteen minutes of waiting [for us to come up
>in the evening and spank them] must be very effective,
>shaking and chatting to each other "how hard will they
>be tonight??" Have you ever snuck to the door to
>listen or peek in to see the cute display going on?
>A. No, because they are listening for us. We do come
>up promptly, and they can hear us go into our bedroom
>first where I slip off the clothes I’ve been wearing
>and slip on a bathrobe over my bra and panties. I do
>that so I don’t get snot and tears all over my
>clothes while spanking them, and I also know that all
>three really like to go over my bare legs for spanking
>rather than over jeans, or a skirt or slacks of some
>kind. My husband also slips off his shirt and trousers
>and puts on a bathrobe and slippers for the same
>reason, but he keeps his bathrobe on while he spanks
>while I take mine off once I am ready to take one of
>them over my lap. We are only in our bedroom four or
>five minutes to do this change and then the kids hear
>us coming halfway down the hall to the girls’
>bedroom. And, of course, we know the agitation and
>nervousness the three are experiencing sitting naked
>in front of each other and waiting to be spanked. We
>think that “tease element” adds a lot the
>spankings which is a good thing we feel.
>
>Q. Are they wide eyed when that brush and strap are
>seen? And do they beg to get out of it at that point?
>A. Oh, yes, all three are wide-eyed and very nervous
>when they see us come in but that was much worse early
>on when we first started these bedtime spankings. And
>they definitely used to plead and beg for us to let
>them off “just this one night, oh, please, Mom,
>couldn’t you let us off just this one night!” But
>they know now this is an important part of their
>discipline routine and they are waiting, teary-eyed
>for sure, and obviously nervous, but actually now
>pretty calmly, which shows you how easily most kids
>adjust to such regular bedtime spankings once they
>know they are not getting out of it. (We do, on our
>own, let them off and skip a night now and
>then—which they love and they show great relief when
>we do that, so they are ever hopeful until the
>event--but when we do skip a night, it is our idea and
>our decision.)
>
>Q. It is wonderful you make sure to have Kleenex and
>washcloths handy. If I may make another suggestion, a
>bottle of baby oil [should be] kept there as well, its
>good to apply before any spanking, adds to the sting
>without any damage done.
>A. KRISTINA! THAT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA! I had heard
>that once a long time ago, but more or less forgot it.
>I will get some this week and put a nice coating on
>their bottoms and thighs before we spank, and—as you
>say—that should add a nice extra sting to the
>spankings.
>
>Q. Beds being far apart means a wall for corner time.
>A. Corner time is something else Tom and I have not
>used and that could be a nice addition to their other
>spankings. Any suggestions on how you use this would
>be very welcome. I would not use it after their
>bedtime spankings, however, because all three are
>bawling hard when we finish and I love getting Jimmy
>on his bed and stroking and kissing and petting him
>while he falls asleep crying, and Tom loves to do the
>same thing with the two girls. Since the last part of
>the bedtime spankings has been Tom’s paddling of
>Jimmy, the two girls have quieted down a fair bit from
>their diaper position strappings while Jimmy is being
>paddled, so when Tom gets them face down on their own
>beds, he usually gives them both a last 20 smacks each
>with his hand on their recently strapped bottoms so
>that assures they are crying good when he kisses them
>and hugs them and leaves them to cry that out and fall
>asleep. When I am across the hall cuddling Jimmy, we
>can hear Tom do that, of course, and I will often
>tease Jimmy by saying something like, “Your father
>is giving the girls a last spanking to sleep on.
>Should I give you one, too, Honey?” And, after just
>being paddled by Tom, he protests vigorously sounding
>like a five-year-old, “No, no, no, Mum! I don’t
>need any more! Honest! I’ll fall right to sleep,
>Honest!”
>
>Q. I think that you two facing each other [on the two
>beds] is fantastic for the view for both of you to see
>how effective both spankings are, but for the kids to
>see each getting spanked also.
>A. Yes, we do enjoy that and it helps me to stop
>spanking the girl I am spanking at about the same time
>Tom gets through with the other. Of course, as I
>mentioned, Annie’s spanking is always a bit harder
>and a bit longer than her younger sister’s, but the
>difference is only a moment or so.
>
>Q. So when you started in September, how did you
>explain things?
>A. Well, Tom and I, once we decided that bedtime
>spankings sounded like a really good thing to do with
>our three, spent a lot of time talking it out
>together, and also talking about how this would work
>with respect to their other spankings during the week
>if any were needed. We did not want the other
>spankings to stop completely, and we both felt
>strongly that the kids would continue to benefit in a
>major way from frequent spankings rather than letting
>long periods pass between any other spankings they
>got, other than the nightly spankings at bedtime. So
>basically, on a Saturday, we sat the kids down and
>went over the whole situation. I remember Annie saying
>at one point, “Every night, Mom? You’re going to
>spank all of us every night! Oh, my Lord! EVERY
>NIGHT!”
>
>And the weird thing was, and this was really
>unexpected, they were all shocked but looking at the
>three of them listening wide-eyed, all of them were
>squirming in their chairs and looking at each other
>blushing, and all of them were getting a look on their
>faces that Tom and I agreed later was clearly one of
>barely controlled excitement. So we knew that all
>three were shocked but also tantalized by the
>prospect. And Debbie, for example, kept saying,
>“We’re all going to be naked, right! Right in
>front of each other! Is that right, Mum? We’ll all
>be naked when you and Daddy come up to spank us!”
>And the thing is—maybe the most surprising thing of
>all—not one of them panicked or got really upset or
>had any kind of temper tantrum about how we told them
>we were going to do things. In sum, they looked
>stunned, but also fascinated and tantalized by the
>prospect. Interesting, we felt.
>
>Q. So you mentioned the hand portion [of the bedtime
>spankings] is fairly short. How long if you had to
>guess is each of their hand spankings for bedtime?
>A. Neither Tom nor I have actually timed them, or even
>looked at a watch during those spankings, so it is
>very hard to answer that. We don’t do a particular
>time or a set number of spanks. Whether I have Annie
>or Debbie over my lap, I spank briskly at first and
>cover the whole bottom, the sit-spots and then I spank
>down the thighs to about halfway to the back of the
>knees. I start moderately to give the child a chance
>to adjust, and I give breaks as I go along, letting
>the girl catch her breath and quiet down a little, and
>letting her blow her nose and I wipe away with a wash
>cloth some of the tears. This also allows the kicking
>legs to settle down a bit. Then I spank gradually
>harder, another break and so on. And at some point
>when the girl is crying quite lustily and her legs are
>kicking steadily and I see that the whole spanking
>area is getting nicely red, I catch Tom’s eye
>again, and we both then give both girls a last
>breather and clean-up of snot and tears, and then and
>we both finish up with a last quite hard volley of
>spanks that always has the spanked girl bawling hard,
>and then we let them up, and the girls have their
>diaper position strappings still to come after Tom
>gives Jimmy a similar hand spanking. So I suppose with
>each girl the time from start to finish of their hand
>spankings may be somewhere between six to twelve
>minutes, or a bit longer, with the breathers and
>wipe-up breaks taking up a good part of that time. The
>key is that they have been spanked steadily and hard
>for a good part of that time so they are well-spanked
>when we finish, so that’s my best estimate.
>
>Q. What are Jimmy's reactions having to watch TWO hand
>spankings at same time before his own, and their
>reactions to seeing his?
>A. There is no question that Jimmy always enjoys
>watching his sisters get spanked and they enjoy
>anytime watching him get spanked. I personally think
>all three are lucky to have this situation where they
>get to see siblings of the opposite sex spanked. It is
>an excellent anatomy lesson for them (and I say that
>seriously, not as a joke) and seeing each other nude
>answers many questions for them that tend to drive a
>lot of kids really crazy as they get into their tweens
>and teens. Also, seeing the other kids get spanked, I
>believe, makes all of them less fearful about their
>own spankings—they see each other spanked hard,
>kicking and bawling, and then a couple of hours later
>they see those same siblings back to normal except for
>the continuing pain in their spanked parts which might
>last hours or even a day or so. Good, that’s
>actually reassuring for them in terms of their own
>spankings. Also, I really do believe that the sensual
>aspects of watching spankings and getting spanked, the
>excitement they feel, the arousal they experience
>watching the others spanked, all of that I believe
>makes them able to handle their own spankings better.
>And that is major point—the fact that these kids
>growing through their tweens and teens need and
>benefit from frequent corporal punishment. They do
>better on the whole when they are spanked fairly
>frequently.
>
>Q. Its great that you snuggle and comfort the girls as
>they are crying [from their own spankings] during
>Jimmy's spankings, but maybe you could make sure to
>also point and say "see how red his bum is getting?"
>"See how daddy controls his kicking?" "Oh, my, his bum
>is getting warm, huh girls?" “Remember darlings, a
>warm bottom means a warm heart, a sound spanking is an
>act of love!"
>A. OH, KRISTINA—YOU ARE SO LIKE ME, WE COULD BE
>SISTERS. That is exactly the kind of things I say to
>the girls while Jimmy is being spanked and while I
>have them cuddled up crying, one on each side of me.
>“Oh, girls, look at that paddle and how your Daddy
>is hitting Jimmy’s sit spots! Oh, that really makes
>his bottom bounce, doesn’t it?” And since we are
>sitting right across from Tom, Jimmy can hear me, too,
>when I’ll say things like, “Oh, Tom! That really
>makes Jimmy screech when you spank his thighs like
>that! Oh, yes, Tom, spank his thighs some more!” The
>thing is that some people, even spanking parents on
>this forum, may probably read that and think it is
>terrible and inexcusable for a parent to do that, but
>on the contrary that kind of teasing by a parent takes
>away any question of anger or upset with the child on
>the part of the parent. It is clear you are not angry
>at all with the child being spanked and that you are
>just teasing him or her and the other kids watching.
>It is the parents who spank with sour faces and
>gritted teeth, and who have anger pouring out of every
>pore, that will give kids nightmares about the
>spankings they get or see. (“When I get through with
>you today, you horrible brat, you’ll never do THAT
>again I can promise you! I’m going to spank you
>until you won’t sit down for a week!) Comments like
>that in a loud angry voice get the opposite effect
>from the giggling reactions I get from the two girls
>with my comments while Jimmy is getting spanked, or
>that I get from Jimmy or any of the kids with similar
>comments when one of the other kids is getting spanked
>by me or Tom. And I can tell from your suggested
>comments, Kristina, that you make the same kind of
>teasing comments to tantalize your kids that I do with
>mine, and I think that is great.
>
>Q. So, I really like what you said about the girls in
>diaper position with you holding their legs nice and
>wide, and back I assume so one foot is beside each ear?
>A. WOW! ANOTHER BIG SURPRISE, KRISTINA! I have never
>tried pulling the feet of the girl being spanked in
>diaper position back like that until they are beside
>each ear!! I can immediately see when I read that how
>that would really stretch the girl’s bottom and legs
>to the max, and give quite a different view to the
>spanker and to the one helping to hold the legs in
>place. I have always held the legs more or less
>straight up and spread in a “Y” figure. That is
>the way I held the legs of my three when they were
>young and being diapered, so I could clean their
>bottoms and the area between their legs and put on a
>fresh diaper, and when they were all young and of
>diaper age I did used to spank them in that position
>also from time to time. It never occurred to me to put
>a foot of one of my girl’s being spanked now beside
>each of her ears. Tell me about that, Kristina, how
>you do that and why? Is it better than having her legs
>straight up in a Vee?
>
>Q. Do you say anything during the strapping?
>A. See my comments above. I do a lot of teasing of the
>girl being spanked by Tom in the diaper position, and
>whenever they are spanked. I’ve gotten back
>reactions, too. This was Annie curled up in my lap on
>a day after Tom has given her a her diaper position
>spanking. “Oh, Mum, you were driving me crazy while
>Daddy spanked me. I thought I would scream when you
>said spank her some more on her thighs, Tom! Oh, yes!
>Spank her bottom hard, Tom! Mum, you are so
>terrible!” But then she is giggling and I am kissing
>her and hugging her and she will whisper in my ear
>something like, “Oh, Mum, Daddy really spanked me
>good today! I can’t sit without a pillow. He said he
>is going to spank Debbie after supper and I can’t
>wait to see him spank her!”
>
>Q. [Kristina, you say] the dance is all part of it,
>the spanky dance lol
>A. Yes, Kristina, I totally agree. Even when I have
>given one of them a fairly short but hard hand
>spanking, if I have done it right, I expect them to
>slide off my lap and dance up and down for several
>minutes in place at the very least, fanning their
>bottoms. If I have given a long spanking, hand and
>paddle to either the boy or either girl, then I
>usually expect and get a wild spanky dance when I let
>them up, with the child bawling and jumping up and
>down hysterically and with the tears and snot pouring
>out. I think a good spanky dance after a hard spanking
>tells you that you’ve done the job right.
>
>Q. How many swats does Tom give for Jimmy's hairbrush
>spanking?
>A. We literally, truthfully, never count swats or give
>a set number of swats or spanks. What I do, and Tom
>does the same, is spank carefully all over the
>spanking area and watch the color changes and listen
>to the crying child. That’s how we know when to
>pause and give breaks to let the child cry a bit and
>do a clean-up of face and neck, and that is how I know
>when to stop. And when I stop, I have a very
>well-spanked child bawling as she or he is sliding off
>my lap after even just a moderately hard spanking has
>been given. And when for some reason a more severe
>spanking was called for, I like to think the child has
>been “spanked to the brink” but not to excess (so
>in a couple of hours the child is fine again, just
>with a very sore and tender bottom, but at the end of
>the spanking crying hysterically).
>
>Q. Can I ask why you use a strap for the girls and not
>for him [Jimmy]?
>A. Because that was only recently introduced and we
>had only used it in the diaper position, and that was
>fine for the two girls but (we felt) too risky to use
>with a boy in the diaper position because of the
>proximity of his unprotected privates. However, you
>raised a good point, and Tom and I talked earlier
>today and we have decided that instead of the
>hairbrush for Jimmy on our nightly spankings, we are
>going to have him lie down on Annie’s bed with that
>pillow under his hips to raise his bottom up, and
>strap him, too. And we did that with him tonight in
>fact. After my hand spanking of Jimmy, and after the
>girls got their diaper position strappings, we put
>Jimmy on the bed and Tom gave Jimmy 15 hard whacks on
>his bottom and thighs with the belt. (He didn’t
>decide in advance how many to give Jimmy, just watched
>him and decided on how many as he actually strapped
>him. And he gave Jimmy just enough so he was really
>bellowing and bouncing when he stopped. Jimmy and the
>girls were all very proud of how well Jimmy took that
>strapping, so now that will be part of his bedtime
>spankings instead of using the paddle on him.
>
>I told Tom that when I was petting and stroking Jimmy
>in his bed tonight, he said to me, “I really took
>that strapping really good didn’t I, Mom? I don’t
>know how many Daddy gave me, I was crying too hard to
>count, but he gave me a lot and I stayed right in
>place, didn’t I? And I took every single one?” And
>I told him that, yes, he did, and I was just so proud
>of him, and he really took his strapping like a real
>man.” And when we first left the girls bedroom Jimmy
>had stopped at the bathroom to spend several minutes
>looking at himself in the full-length mirror on the
>bathroom door before we went on and he climbed into
>be. And while we talked once he was in bed, he
>pointed at his bottom and thighs and said, “Look at
>the belt marks, Mom! You can see the wide red stripes
>all over my bottom—see them, Mom!” And I assured
>him that I did indeed see them.
>
>Then he said in a gruff manly voice, “The belt
>really really hurts, Mom! It really set me on fire!
>But I can take it. I can take a good belting, Mom, and
>I did, didn’t I?” Honest, Kristina, sometimes I
>think I could just eat him with a spoon he is so cute!
>And I told him again how proud I was of him, and then,
>teasing him, I told him, “You are going to get lots
>of belting from now on, Little Man. Are you aware of
>that? Daddy is going to use that belt on you regularly
>now at your bedtime spankings. Are you ready to have
>that belt roast your bottom good every night now,
>Jimmy?” And he just sighed and groaned and said,
>“I know, I know. It’s okay. I can take a good
>belting. I took the belt really good.”
>
>As Jimmy was finally falling asleep, I left and, as
>usual, Tom and I retired to our bedroom and to say we
>were both “up” and riding on a high tonight is
>putting it mildly. Neither of us was a bit sleepy and
>so we got into bed and talked about the spankings and
>then, well let's just say we had a very active time
>for almost an hour or so, and then we did both fell
>asleep. And then, after about two hours, I woke up and
>came down here to our home office and decided to try
>to answer at least most of the questions you had
>posed, Kristina, since I can go back for a nap right
>after the kids are off to school tomorrow. Now, having
>made—I think--a pretty good run at your questions, I
>am going to stop now and go back to bed and get some
>needed sleep. I hope you and the others find this
>report of interest and not too ridiculously long when
>you find it tomorrow. I would love to hear back from
>you, Kristina, and from any of the others who have
>already commented, passing along your comments and
>reactions. Love and blessings to you all, Kath

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