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Date Posted: 17:03:21 01/25/24 Thu In reply to: Cath to Kristina 's message, "Re: New Years Resolutions" on 00:05:25 01/22/24 Mon >Dear Kristina, > >This is going to be very, very long--anyone not up for >a long read please just pass over this--but I am going >to try to answer the questions you asked me in your >very thoughtful and encouraging note, Kristina. I hope >I can clarify or add to some of the things you were >wondering about. > >Q. Did you tell the kids you ordered a new paddle or >shall it be a surprise? >A. You’ll laugh, I think. My husband read how you >made a Christmas gift of a Lexan paddle for each of >your two, and he thought we should do the same with >ours even if Christmas has come and gone. I plan to >wrap whatever box it comes in with some of the >leftover wrapping and label it to all three, then >we’ll give it to them at dinner time and tell them >it’s a late gift. All three of them have heard >about the Lexan and Debbie, always one to speak her >mind, often without thinking, said when I mentioned >these paddles, “A boy in our class said his mum got >one and he says she spanks him with it forever and >ever and ever because he doesn’t get bruises!” My >husband and I laughed at that but Annie and Jimmy >looked at her like they wanted to strangle her. I did >tell them I was thinking of getting one. > >Q. Tell your husband thank you for allowing you to >write to me, and thanks for the compliment. >A. I did, and he said you sound like a real doll >(don't be offended by that description, that is a big >complement from him) with a great sense of humor and >he said he’d bet you give your kids lots of physical >love, hugs and kisses, like we do. > >Q. I will tell you in a follow up post in great detail >our bedtime routine but I wanted to ask questions >about yours first, to clarify some things. [As to kids >making a fuss about going to bed, Kristina, you >commented]: I feel that begging and fussing like they >used to about bedtime, should mean bringing them to >the bathroom, soaping their mouths and putting them >back to bed, as that I consider backtalk for sure. >A. Well, thank goodness under our new spankings at >bedtime routine, we no longer have those problems at >all—they are completely gone now! Hooray! And they >really were a constant hassle and irritation for some >years. However, your point about washing mouths out >with soap was interesting because we have never done >that. I think I would like to do that with them from >time to time as a different punishment and so I would >be very glad to have more detailed instructions from >you about how to go about that—what kind of soap, >how to apply it, how long to leave it in before one >lets them rinse it out, etc. As I read that >suggestion I picture myself with the three kids >standing in line before or after a spanking while I >washed their mouths out with soap, and I really liked >that idea, and I thought, indeed, that could be a nice >addition to their discipline—no danger of any real >harm (if one does so carefully)--but a very >uncomfortable and tear-producing experience for them I >would think. Am I right? > >Q. That fifteen minutes of waiting [for us to come up >in the evening and spank them] must be very effective, >shaking and chatting to each other "how hard will they >be tonight??" Have you ever snuck to the door to >listen or peek in to see the cute display going on? >A. No, because they are listening for us. We do come >up promptly, and they can hear us go into our bedroom >first where I slip off the clothes I’ve been wearing >and slip on a bathrobe over my bra and panties. I do >that so I don’t get snot and tears all over my >clothes while spanking them, and I also know that all >three really like to go over my bare legs for spanking >rather than over jeans, or a skirt or slacks of some >kind. My husband also slips off his shirt and trousers >and puts on a bathrobe and slippers for the same >reason, but he keeps his bathrobe on while he spanks >while I take mine off once I am ready to take one of >them over my lap. We are only in our bedroom four or >five minutes to do this change and then the kids hear >us coming halfway down the hall to the girls’ >bedroom. And, of course, we know the agitation and >nervousness the three are experiencing sitting naked >in front of each other and waiting to be spanked. We >think that “tease element” adds a lot the >spankings which is a good thing we feel. > >Q. Are they wide eyed when that brush and strap are >seen? And do they beg to get out of it at that point? >A. Oh, yes, all three are wide-eyed and very nervous >when they see us come in but that was much worse early >on when we first started these bedtime spankings. And >they definitely used to plead and beg for us to let >them off “just this one night, oh, please, Mom, >couldn’t you let us off just this one night!” But >they know now this is an important part of their >discipline routine and they are waiting, teary-eyed >for sure, and obviously nervous, but actually now >pretty calmly, which shows you how easily most kids >adjust to such regular bedtime spankings once they >know they are not getting out of it. (We do, on our >own, let them off and skip a night now and >then—which they love and they show great relief when >we do that, so they are ever hopeful until the >event--but when we do skip a night, it is our idea and >our decision.) > >Q. It is wonderful you make sure to have Kleenex and >washcloths handy. If I may make another suggestion, a >bottle of baby oil [should be] kept there as well, its >good to apply before any spanking, adds to the sting >without any damage done. >A. KRISTINA! THAT IS AN EXCELLENT IDEA! I had heard >that once a long time ago, but more or less forgot it. >I will get some this week and put a nice coating on >their bottoms and thighs before we spank, and—as you >say—that should add a nice extra sting to the >spankings. > >Q. Beds being far apart means a wall for corner time. >A. Corner time is something else Tom and I have not >used and that could be a nice addition to their other >spankings. Any suggestions on how you use this would >be very welcome. I would not use it after their >bedtime spankings, however, because all three are >bawling hard when we finish and I love getting Jimmy >on his bed and stroking and kissing and petting him >while he falls asleep crying, and Tom loves to do the >same thing with the two girls. Since the last part of >the bedtime spankings has been Tom’s paddling of >Jimmy, the two girls have quieted down a fair bit from >their diaper position strappings while Jimmy is being >paddled, so when Tom gets them face down on their own >beds, he usually gives them both a last 20 smacks each >with his hand on their recently strapped bottoms so >that assures they are crying good when he kisses them >and hugs them and leaves them to cry that out and fall >asleep. When I am across the hall cuddling Jimmy, we >can hear Tom do that, of course, and I will often >tease Jimmy by saying something like, “Your father >is giving the girls a last spanking to sleep on. >Should I give you one, too, Honey?” And, after just >being paddled by Tom, he protests vigorously sounding >like a five-year-old, “No, no, no, Mum! I don’t >need any more! Honest! I’ll fall right to sleep, >Honest!” > >Q. I think that you two facing each other [on the two >beds] is fantastic for the view for both of you to see >how effective both spankings are, but for the kids to >see each getting spanked also. >A. Yes, we do enjoy that and it helps me to stop >spanking the girl I am spanking at about the same time >Tom gets through with the other. Of course, as I >mentioned, Annie’s spanking is always a bit harder >and a bit longer than her younger sister’s, but the >difference is only a moment or so. > >Q. So when you started in September, how did you >explain things? >A. Well, Tom and I, once we decided that bedtime >spankings sounded like a really good thing to do with >our three, spent a lot of time talking it out >together, and also talking about how this would work >with respect to their other spankings during the week >if any were needed. We did not want the other >spankings to stop completely, and we both felt >strongly that the kids would continue to benefit in a >major way from frequent spankings rather than letting >long periods pass between any other spankings they >got, other than the nightly spankings at bedtime. So >basically, on a Saturday, we sat the kids down and >went over the whole situation. I remember Annie saying >at one point, “Every night, Mom? You’re going to >spank all of us every night! Oh, my Lord! EVERY >NIGHT!” > >And the weird thing was, and this was really >unexpected, they were all shocked but looking at the >three of them listening wide-eyed, all of them were >squirming in their chairs and looking at each other >blushing, and all of them were getting a look on their >faces that Tom and I agreed later was clearly one of >barely controlled excitement. So we knew that all >three were shocked but also tantalized by the >prospect. And Debbie, for example, kept saying, >“We’re all going to be naked, right! Right in >front of each other! Is that right, Mum? We’ll all >be naked when you and Daddy come up to spank us!” >And the thing is—maybe the most surprising thing of >all—not one of them panicked or got really upset or >had any kind of temper tantrum about how we told them >we were going to do things. In sum, they looked >stunned, but also fascinated and tantalized by the >prospect. Interesting, we felt. > >Q. So you mentioned the hand portion [of the bedtime >spankings] is fairly short. How long if you had to >guess is each of their hand spankings for bedtime? >A. Neither Tom nor I have actually timed them, or even >looked at a watch during those spankings, so it is >very hard to answer that. We don’t do a particular >time or a set number of spanks. Whether I have Annie >or Debbie over my lap, I spank briskly at first and >cover the whole bottom, the sit-spots and then I spank >down the thighs to about halfway to the back of the >knees. I start moderately to give the child a chance >to adjust, and I give breaks as I go along, letting >the girl catch her breath and quiet down a little, and >letting her blow her nose and I wipe away with a wash >cloth some of the tears. This also allows the kicking >legs to settle down a bit. Then I spank gradually >harder, another break and so on. And at some point >when the girl is crying quite lustily and her legs are >kicking steadily and I see that the whole spanking >area is getting nicely red, I catch Tom’s eye >again, and we both then give both girls a last >breather and clean-up of snot and tears, and then and >we both finish up with a last quite hard volley of >spanks that always has the spanked girl bawling hard, >and then we let them up, and the girls have their >diaper position strappings still to come after Tom >gives Jimmy a similar hand spanking. So I suppose with >each girl the time from start to finish of their hand >spankings may be somewhere between six to twelve >minutes, or a bit longer, with the breathers and >wipe-up breaks taking up a good part of that time. The >key is that they have been spanked steadily and hard >for a good part of that time so they are well-spanked >when we finish, so that’s my best estimate. > >Q. What are Jimmy's reactions having to watch TWO hand >spankings at same time before his own, and their >reactions to seeing his? >A. There is no question that Jimmy always enjoys >watching his sisters get spanked and they enjoy >anytime watching him get spanked. I personally think >all three are lucky to have this situation where they >get to see siblings of the opposite sex spanked. It is >an excellent anatomy lesson for them (and I say that >seriously, not as a joke) and seeing each other nude >answers many questions for them that tend to drive a >lot of kids really crazy as they get into their tweens >and teens. Also, seeing the other kids get spanked, I >believe, makes all of them less fearful about their >own spankings—they see each other spanked hard, >kicking and bawling, and then a couple of hours later >they see those same siblings back to normal except for >the continuing pain in their spanked parts which might >last hours or even a day or so. Good, that’s >actually reassuring for them in terms of their own >spankings. Also, I really do believe that the sensual >aspects of watching spankings and getting spanked, the >excitement they feel, the arousal they experience >watching the others spanked, all of that I believe >makes them able to handle their own spankings better. >And that is major point—the fact that these kids >growing through their tweens and teens need and >benefit from frequent corporal punishment. They do >better on the whole when they are spanked fairly >frequently. > >Q. Its great that you snuggle and comfort the girls as >they are crying [from their own spankings] during >Jimmy's spankings, but maybe you could make sure to >also point and say "see how red his bum is getting?" >"See how daddy controls his kicking?" "Oh, my, his bum >is getting warm, huh girls?" “Remember darlings, a >warm bottom means a warm heart, a sound spanking is an >act of love!" >A. OH, KRISTINA—YOU ARE SO LIKE ME, WE COULD BE >SISTERS. That is exactly the kind of things I say to >the girls while Jimmy is being spanked and while I >have them cuddled up crying, one on each side of me. >“Oh, girls, look at that paddle and how your Daddy >is hitting Jimmy’s sit spots! Oh, that really makes >his bottom bounce, doesn’t it?” And since we are >sitting right across from Tom, Jimmy can hear me, too, >when I’ll say things like, “Oh, Tom! That really >makes Jimmy screech when you spank his thighs like >that! Oh, yes, Tom, spank his thighs some more!” The >thing is that some people, even spanking parents on >this forum, may probably read that and think it is >terrible and inexcusable for a parent to do that, but >on the contrary that kind of teasing by a parent takes >away any question of anger or upset with the child on >the part of the parent. It is clear you are not angry >at all with the child being spanked and that you are >just teasing him or her and the other kids watching. >It is the parents who spank with sour faces and >gritted teeth, and who have anger pouring out of every >pore, that will give kids nightmares about the >spankings they get or see. (“When I get through with >you today, you horrible brat, you’ll never do THAT >again I can promise you! I’m going to spank you >until you won’t sit down for a week!) Comments like >that in a loud angry voice get the opposite effect >from the giggling reactions I get from the two girls >with my comments while Jimmy is getting spanked, or >that I get from Jimmy or any of the kids with similar >comments when one of the other kids is getting spanked >by me or Tom. And I can tell from your suggested >comments, Kristina, that you make the same kind of >teasing comments to tantalize your kids that I do with >mine, and I think that is great. > >Q. So, I really like what you said about the girls in >diaper position with you holding their legs nice and >wide, and back I assume so one foot is beside each ear? >A. WOW! ANOTHER BIG SURPRISE, KRISTINA! I have never >tried pulling the feet of the girl being spanked in >diaper position back like that until they are beside >each ear!! I can immediately see when I read that how >that would really stretch the girl’s bottom and legs >to the max, and give quite a different view to the >spanker and to the one helping to hold the legs in >place. I have always held the legs more or less >straight up and spread in a “Y” figure. That is >the way I held the legs of my three when they were >young and being diapered, so I could clean their >bottoms and the area between their legs and put on a >fresh diaper, and when they were all young and of >diaper age I did used to spank them in that position >also from time to time. It never occurred to me to put >a foot of one of my girl’s being spanked now beside >each of her ears. Tell me about that, Kristina, how >you do that and why? Is it better than having her legs >straight up in a Vee? > >Q. Do you say anything during the strapping? >A. See my comments above. I do a lot of teasing of the >girl being spanked by Tom in the diaper position, and >whenever they are spanked. I’ve gotten back >reactions, too. This was Annie curled up in my lap on >a day after Tom has given her a her diaper position >spanking. “Oh, Mum, you were driving me crazy while >Daddy spanked me. I thought I would scream when you >said spank her some more on her thighs, Tom! Oh, yes! >Spank her bottom hard, Tom! Mum, you are so >terrible!” But then she is giggling and I am kissing >her and hugging her and she will whisper in my ear >something like, “Oh, Mum, Daddy really spanked me >good today! I can’t sit without a pillow. He said he >is going to spank Debbie after supper and I can’t >wait to see him spank her!” > >Q. [Kristina, you say] the dance is all part of it, >the spanky dance lol >A. Yes, Kristina, I totally agree. Even when I have >given one of them a fairly short but hard hand >spanking, if I have done it right, I expect them to >slide off my lap and dance up and down for several >minutes in place at the very least, fanning their >bottoms. If I have given a long spanking, hand and >paddle to either the boy or either girl, then I >usually expect and get a wild spanky dance when I let >them up, with the child bawling and jumping up and >down hysterically and with the tears and snot pouring >out. I think a good spanky dance after a hard spanking >tells you that you’ve done the job right. > >Q. How many swats does Tom give for Jimmy's hairbrush >spanking? >A. We literally, truthfully, never count swats or give >a set number of swats or spanks. What I do, and Tom >does the same, is spank carefully all over the >spanking area and watch the color changes and listen >to the crying child. That’s how we know when to >pause and give breaks to let the child cry a bit and >do a clean-up of face and neck, and that is how I know >when to stop. And when I stop, I have a very >well-spanked child bawling as she or he is sliding off >my lap after even just a moderately hard spanking has >been given. And when for some reason a more severe >spanking was called for, I like to think the child has >been “spanked to the brink” but not to excess (so >in a couple of hours the child is fine again, just >with a very sore and tender bottom, but at the end of >the spanking crying hysterically). > >Q. Can I ask why you use a strap for the girls and not >for him [Jimmy]? >A. Because that was only recently introduced and we >had only used it in the diaper position, and that was >fine for the two girls but (we felt) too risky to use >with a boy in the diaper position because of the >proximity of his unprotected privates. However, you >raised a good point, and Tom and I talked earlier >today and we have decided that instead of the >hairbrush for Jimmy on our nightly spankings, we are >going to have him lie down on Annie’s bed with that >pillow under his hips to raise his bottom up, and >strap him, too. And we did that with him tonight in >fact. After my hand spanking of Jimmy, and after the >girls got their diaper position strappings, we put >Jimmy on the bed and Tom gave Jimmy 15 hard whacks on >his bottom and thighs with the belt. (He didn’t >decide in advance how many to give Jimmy, just watched >him and decided on how many as he actually strapped >him. And he gave Jimmy just enough so he was really >bellowing and bouncing when he stopped. Jimmy and the >girls were all very proud of how well Jimmy took that >strapping, so now that will be part of his bedtime >spankings instead of using the paddle on him. > >I told Tom that when I was petting and stroking Jimmy >in his bed tonight, he said to me, “I really took >that strapping really good didn’t I, Mom? I don’t >know how many Daddy gave me, I was crying too hard to >count, but he gave me a lot and I stayed right in >place, didn’t I? And I took every single one?” And >I told him that, yes, he did, and I was just so proud >of him, and he really took his strapping like a real >man.” And when we first left the girls bedroom Jimmy >had stopped at the bathroom to spend several minutes >looking at himself in the full-length mirror on the >bathroom door before we went on and he climbed into >be. And while we talked once he was in bed, he >pointed at his bottom and thighs and said, “Look at >the belt marks, Mom! You can see the wide red stripes >all over my bottom—see them, Mom!” And I assured >him that I did indeed see them. > >Then he said in a gruff manly voice, “The belt >really really hurts, Mom! It really set me on fire! >But I can take it. I can take a good belting, Mom, and >I did, didn’t I?” Honest, Kristina, sometimes I >think I could just eat him with a spoon he is so cute! >And I told him again how proud I was of him, and then, >teasing him, I told him, “You are going to get lots >of belting from now on, Little Man. Are you aware of >that? Daddy is going to use that belt on you regularly >now at your bedtime spankings. Are you ready to have >that belt roast your bottom good every night now, >Jimmy?” And he just sighed and groaned and said, >“I know, I know. It’s okay. I can take a good >belting. I took the belt really good.” > >As Jimmy was finally falling asleep, I left and, as >usual, Tom and I retired to our bedroom and to say we >were both “up” and riding on a high tonight is >putting it mildly. Neither of us was a bit sleepy and >so we got into bed and talked about the spankings and >then, well let's just say we had a very active time >for almost an hour or so, and then we did both fell >asleep. And then, after about two hours, I woke up and >came down here to our home office and decided to try >to answer at least most of the questions you had >posed, Kristina, since I can go back for a nap right >after the kids are off to school tomorrow. Now, having >made—I think--a pretty good run at your questions, I >am going to stop now and go back to bed and get some >needed sleep. I hope you and the others find this >report of interest and not too ridiculously long when >you find it tomorrow. I would love to hear back from >you, Kristina, and from any of the others who have >already commented, passing along your comments and >reactions. Love and blessings to you all, Kath I hope you don't give up on the belt. It works well for girls. Maybe Lexan for bedtime spankings & belt for punishments? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] |
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