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Subject: Boys nude in front of girls / women during swims or medical exams


Author:
Naked And Unafraid
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Date Posted: 20:25:05 09/03/25 Wed
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Who here has been in that situation personally, or heard credible stories from others? No fantasy fluff please- only real life accounts.

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spelvin
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Date Posted: 22:01:23 09/03/25 Wed
Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247

I collect stories of swim club members who wandered off onto the bleachers and conversed with the audience when they were not busy.

In 2022, Manuel wrote to the 206801 forum (I forgot which was the yellow forum and which was the blue forum) that the mother of one of his teammates sometimes asked, "Do you mind if our daughters get a closer look?”

In 2018, Mike wrote to the 223876 forum that his father who was on the high school swim team.

He walked over to the bleachers and conversed with his admiring girlfriend, along with her girlfriend’s mother, grandmother, and two sisters.

For four years, his girlfriend remained a fan of the swimming team and repeatedly saw him from head to foot. Yet Mike’s father never saw his girlfriend, now Mike’s mother, until their wedding night.

And that is how Mike came into the world!

Rick wrote to the 223876 forum in 2020.

He struck up a conversation with the mother of a small girl who played with his penis until he turned beet-red.

The mother continued with the conversation after saying only “Melanie is just curious, don’t worry.”

Stan (2020, 223876 forum) sometimes went onto the bleachers to talk to one of the women teachers.

Sometimes, a girl teammate would sit on the other side.

He would turn to a girl teammate and say, “I have to go pee.”

The girl would ask, “Can I come?”

Stan would say, “Sure, let’s go.”

The boys may pretend to be unconscious of their nudity, but according to sean (2021, 206801), "we might sit in the bleachers by them leaning back and spreading our legs to display ourselves."

I wish I had detailed accounts of these conversations, but unfortunately I don't.

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Author:
Charles
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Date Posted: 05:10:39 09/07/25 Sun
Author Host/IP: 172.59.186.168

Spelvin, we know you collect stories, I do too. I have most of the stories you quoted from the Yellow forum. I think the one about the young girl Melanie playing with the boy's penis in the stands in front of her mother is especially funny. You posted it on Date Posted: Sun June 26, 2022 02:55:31 These were nice fantasy stories but they didn't happen IRL. There is no proof that nude males swam at US school sponsored events in front of females. All evidence shows that nude swimming in schools was restricted to males, with no females (other than the occasional swim instructor) being present. I had many friends who swam nude in school, no one spoke of their female classmates being in attendance. Nude swimming in schools went out after Title IX passed in 1974.


>I collect stories of swim club members who wandered
>off onto the bleachers and conversed with the audience
>when they were not busy.
>
>In 2022, Manuel wrote to the 206801 forum (I forgot
>which was the yellow forum and which was the blue
>forum) that the mother of one of his teammates
>sometimes asked, "Do you mind if our daughters get a
>closer look?”
>
>In 2018, Mike wrote to the 223876 forum that his
>father who was on the high school swim team.
>
>He walked over to the bleachers and conversed with his
>admiring girlfriend, along with her girlfriend’s
>mother, grandmother, and two sisters.
>
>For four years, his girlfriend remained a fan of the
>swimming team and repeatedly saw him from head to
>foot. Yet Mike’s father never saw his girlfriend,
>now Mike’s mother, until their wedding night.
>
>And that is how Mike came into the world!
>
>Rick wrote to the 223876 forum in 2020.
>
>He struck up a conversation with the mother of a small
>girl who played with his penis until he turned
>beet-red.
>
>The mother continued with the conversation after
>saying only “Melanie is just curious, don’t
>worry.”
>
>Stan (2020, 223876 forum) sometimes went onto the
>bleachers to talk to one of the women teachers.
>
>Sometimes, a girl teammate would sit on the other
>side.
>
>He would turn to a girl teammate and say, “I have to
>go pee.”
>
>The girl would ask, “Can I come?”
>
>Stan would say, “Sure, let’s go.”
>
>The boys may pretend to be unconscious of their
>nudity, but according to sean (2021, 206801), "we
>might sit in the bleachers by them leaning back and
>spreading our legs to display ourselves."
>
>I wish I had detailed accounts of these conversations,
>but unfortunately I don't.

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Author:
spelvin (to Charles)
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Date Posted: 06:28:41 09/07/25 Sun
Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247

Hello, Charles!

Nice to meet another careful bookkeeper!

There are a couple of messages which I wish I had recorded.
In one message, the contributor had overheard a girl commenting that she wished the boys had to attend school nude, as well as swim meets.
That's what started me fantasizing about boys having to attend school nude.

In another message, a woman said that she used to drive two boys to the YMCA every weekend.
Each boy ran up the steps carrying a towel in one hand and the money for the entrance fee in the other hand.
I don't like to see nudity restricted to a particular time or particular place,
so I like stories about the boundaries being pushed.

Would you happen to have records of either of these stories?

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Author:
Christian
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Date Posted: 11:59:54 09/04/25 Thu
Author Host/IP: 107.215.19.132

I grew up in the 80s & 90s and was an avid water polo player, but never was I nude playing for my high school team. As I mentioned in an old post at one of the deleted websites, I often felt self conscious knowing how the tight Speedos did not leave much to the imagination and no doubt the female spectators still got an eyeful.

As to medical exams, our family doctor was a loquacious Asian female that I very much liked and yes part of the exams were in the nude with my mom also present and on one occasion, my Aunt when mom had a conflict in her schedule and she took me. The nudity never really bothered me and when I had the option at 15 to be examined without a chaperone, I still elected to have mom present.

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Brian
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Date Posted: 12:37:08 09/04/25 Thu
Author Host/IP: 208.107.143.195

I have never had such an experience of being nude in front of women or girls in medical exams or swimming with the exception of my mother at the doctor, but I do recall a post form an old message board on this site where a woman volunteered as a health aid at a boys detention center and she recalled how the boys were all naked in line to be examined. "All those cute butts and penises." I remember that quote.

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Author:
Naked And Unafraid
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Date Posted: 12:55:03 09/04/25 Thu
Author Host/IP: 107.77.228.123

>Who here has been in that situation personally, or
>heard credible stories from others? No fantasy fluff
>please- only real life accounts.


Christian- did you ever find yourself getting erect in either of those situations?

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Author:
Christian to NAU
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Date Posted: 13:14:27 09/05/25 Fri
Author Host/IP: 107.215.19.132

I managed to keep myself under control at medical exams, and when I had "the talk" with my dad around age 11, he emphasized the need to keep focused on whatever activity I was involved with when women and girls were present. I mostly followed his advice, but at one water polo match at age 14, I was taking a breather and let my eyes wander when a young mom in the bleachers fully exposed her breasts to feed her baby. I was beet red with embarrassment and sat down legs crossed to hide my erection, difficult in tight Speedos. If anyone noted, nothing was said and returning to the cool water two minutes later killed my erection quickly.

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Author:
Tor
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Date Posted: 01:52:11 09/05/25 Fri
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

You have to go back to 70s to have seen this as a norm.

FirST place I saw this was a local town park frequented by hippies. You would see boys play naked sometimes. I would say under 8 to 10. It was not all but was seen frequently. I played in field or lakes like this. No one objected.

Other places saw this too.

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Ben
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Date Posted: 06:12:40 09/07/25 Sun
Author Host/IP: 185.177.126.127

I can remember that my mother always took my sister and me to the doctor together. If one of us was sick, the other had to come along, because we weren't allowed to stay home alone. At that time, I was about 10 and my sister was two years older. I remember once when I had to pull down my underwear. I don't remember exactly why, but I still know how I lay on the examination table with my underwear pulled down. My mother and sister were also in the room. I hated it. However, I was also allowed to watch when my sister was examined.

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Author:
jack
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Date Posted: 12:47:47 01/24/26 Sat
Author Host/IP: 67.242.13.167

>Who here has been in that situation personally, or
>heard credible stories from others? No fantasy fluff
>please- only real life accounts.

When I was 16 I was hit by a car while riding my bike. I ended up with a broken left shin, broken right wrist, and a pretty bad concussion. The worst of it, though, was all the “road rash” from being dragged a few feet. It was summer and I was wearing shorts and had my tshirt wrapped around my handlebars so it wouldn’t get sweaty before I got to work. There was barely a part of my body that didn’t have scrapes and cuts.

Even though I was on mild pain meds, cleaning the road rash and changing the bandages was really painful because of having to move around so the nurse could access everything. The nurse always had a candy-striper (teenage female volunteer) to assist. The nurse would lower the gown to my waist, or raise it to get to my thighs, but my privates were always covered (no rash there since I was wearing shorts). The first couple of times was really painful and I asked if there was some other way we could do it so I wouldn’t have to roll around so much. The nurse thought for a moment and the candy-striper asked if I could stand while they did it. I said I could, but would need to hold onto something since my shin was broken. The nurse said we could use the treatment room. The treatment room was just a big room with a stretcher, cabinets and an open shower area that had handrails.

The nurse and the candy striper moved all their apparatus to the treatment room, then helped me in. The nurse told me to stand in the shower and hold the rails and made sure I was stable. She unsnapped the gown in back of my neck, but since I was holding the rails, it didn’t really lower enough. She looked at me and said “hmm…we’ll need to take the gown off” and pulled it off one arm, then the other, leaving me standing there stark naked! She did it so fast I had no time to react. The candy striper, though she did her best to hide it, was pretty surprised too! They proceeded to do what they needed and, to be honest, it was much easier than doing it in bed. It took them about 20 minutes to change all the bandages, which was actually faster than when I was in bed.

I was in the hospital for almost two weeks and had those bandages changed twice a day. There were three different nurses and four candy stripers who helped me.

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Sean
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Date Posted: 12:25:52 01/25/26 Sun
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

>Who here has been in that situation personally, or
>heard credible stories from others? No fantasy fluff
>please- only real life accounts.I dont

I dont think the simple act of boys under 10 or 12 swimming nude was a big deal. I also dont think a boy in white briefs with female nurse having a peek was big deal at one point. It was so long ago this was expected norm but definately not now. I really do not even have a meorable sotry about medical exams. I just remember beaches, beach lockerrooms, gym locker rooms.

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spelvin
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Date Posted: 19:02:43 01/25/26 Sun
Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247

Hello, Sean!

"I don't think the simple act of boys under 10 or 12
swimming nude was a big deal."

That's because that's how you were raised.
All children think the way they were raised is perfectly normal.
People all over the world probably wonder why their own cultures seem so exotic to foreign tourists.
What's so great about riding a gondola?
What's so great about eating with chopsticks?

That's why CFNM swimming seems like a "big deal" to us.
I realize it doesn't seem that way to you.
On the blue and yellow forums, gymnopedonectonically deprived people like us continually asked gymnopedonectonically blessed guys like you what your impression was at the time.
Usually, you guys shrugged your shoulders and said, "that's the way it was."

If the sexual abuse warriors have their way, they may someday ban topless swimwear for boys.
Then, future generations will ask us, "Weren't you embarrassed, having to swim with no shirt on?"
"Didn't the girls laugh at you for showing your naked boobies?"
"Didn't you protest over having to swim topless when the girls didn't swim topless?"
But I didn't think anything of it at the time.
I'll just shrug my shoulders and say, "That's the way it was."

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Author:
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Date Posted: 00:33:04 01/26/26 Mon
Author Host/IP: 76.113.145.227

I think boys should be covered up down there and girls should be swimming naked instead, think about it, girls have much less down there that needs to be covered, it hardly makes a difference! I say it’s time girls stop needlessly covering themselves while swimming and I have yet to hear a good reason why they shouldn’t! I say let them run around freely!

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Author:
spelvin (to .)
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Date Posted: 11:17:36 01/26/26 Mon
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Hello, .!

And thank you for sharing your opinion!

Last July, I started a thread on the reasons for boy nudity.
I invite you to check this out:

https://www.voy.com/250988/1569.html

I admit that I said a lot about why boys should
but not much about why girls shouldn't.

Someone else started a great big thread on the double standard:

https://www.voy.com/250988/1569.html

I started to wonder what experts in psychology and psychiatry thought about modesty training.
I did a google search, hoping to find professional journal articles on the subject.
The only sites I found on the subject were written by religiously motivated parents.
Even there, modesty training for boys comes only as an overthought.
Apparently, it went without saying that girls should be modesty trained.

Here I explain my google search in greater detail:

https://www.voy.com/250988/1373.html

I am far from taking a firm stand on the dichotomy between CFNM and egalitarian nudity.
I guess I would approve of women and girls going nude if they wanted to, but they don't seem to want to.
In the community where I live, there is an annual nude event.
The men at that event always outnumber the women by at least 10 to 1.

Here is a study conducted by a zealous advocate of nudism.
Despite the author's bias, she found that home-based nudism and recreational nudism benefitted boys,
but had no significant effect on girls:

Story, M. D. 1979. Factors associated with more positive body self-concepts in preschool children. Journal of Social Psychology 108: 49-56.

CFNM seems to be a human instinct.
In Japan, boys perform in drum ensembles for jam-packed auditoriums, wearing loincloths that cover the genitals and nothing else.
In the Embera tribe of Panama and Colombia, boys go naked until they show signs of modesty.
Girls are covered up from the very beginning.

I can't escape, however, from the argument that CFNM is unjust.

In 2012, Drew wrote to the 223876 forum:

"My sisters, older girlfriends would get a chuckle out of seeing a few boys run around naked in summer but the chuckle did wear off quickly. They mentioned they would run around too if they had a ding ding and were allowed to do that too."

In 2022, melanie wrote to the 223876 forum:

"As you said, we were all used to it, it was normal to us so nothing seemed out of the ordinary at the time. In a way I wish I had questioned it, said why not us girls go naked too? But I was just a kid, it was just the way thing were."

Likewise for the double standard for toplessness.
On January 2, 2022, Claire wrote to this forum:

https://www.historyworld.co.uk/photo.php?id=1607&we=0&sort=0&3=Childhood&l2=

"Boys doing PE, and other exercise, topless has always seemed to be a good idea to me, Back when i was at school, I was always envious of my brother being allowed to take his top off for PE , while I had to endure a clingy polo-shirt - not even the luxury of a sleeveless vest, and still less the freedom of a sports bra, for us girls. i should add that topless was optional for the boys, generally with 100% uptake!"

If you have any further thoughts on the subject,
I shall be interested to hear them.

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Author:
spelvin (to . again)
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Date Posted: 11:35:58 01/26/26 Mon
Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247

From the stories I've collected from the yellow and blue forums, I can give you a little bit of consolation.
If the girls have one guy outnumbered,
a very confident NFCM situation can result.

After junior high baseball practice, the coach asked Joseph (2023, Voy 206801) to take the bases to the equipment room. The only route to the equipment room was through the girls’ locker room.
He was unabashedly watched by the cheerleaders, who were fresh out of the shower.
All twelve cheerleaders rushed to Joseph’s aid when he slipped and fell.
Some of the girls helped him back up while some helped him gather up the bases, “not even concerned about their nudity.”

The girls could get especially uninhibited if the one guy is a socially awkward geek.
When Patrick (2023, Voy 206801) attended high school, he was so girl-shy that he could not even talk to a girl without stuttering.
“I think girls thought I was kind of cute, because of how harmless I was to them.”
One day during the volleyball season, Patrick stayed after school to tend to some scholastic matters.
A girl came to his desk and requested help.
She led the way, which was past the girls' locker door.
At that [point, another girl came out and joined the first girl in pushing him inside.
There he was greeted by a very moist, very feminine, and very underclad volleyball team. “Don’t be shy.” “Do you like what you see?”
Patrick concludes, “They knew I was not a threat so they felt empowered.”

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Author:
Ryan
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Date Posted: 07:11:43 01/28/26 Wed
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

What I would see in Eugene Oregon in 70s was opposite of that definately described by . . It was height of hippies where day camp at university was very relaxed about boys being naked. You could be naked all day and required.

I would guess 1 out 5 boys went naked all day and all did swimming or suning in summer. It is hard to believe now but my mom actually encouraged it as healthy and clothes would just get dirty. Three of us boys would go outside like this all the time.

Its hard to beleive we would even ride bikes home from day camp naked.

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Author:
scamptoo
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Date Posted: 09:45:43 01/28/26 Wed
Author Host/IP: 24.57.206.80

>What I would see in Eugene Oregon in 70s was opposite
>of that definately described by . . It was height of
>hippies where day camp at university was very relaxed
>about boys being naked. You could be naked all day and
>required.
>
>I would guess 1 out 5 boys went naked all day and all
>did swimming or suning in summer. It is hard to
>believe now but my mom actually encouraged it as
>healthy and clothes would just get dirty. Three of us
>boys would go outside like this all the time.
>
>Its hard to beleive we would even ride bikes home from
>day camp naked.

Ah, those great hippy years when not everyone was bent out of shape over what others were doing.

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Author:
Ryan
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Date Posted: 12:03:44 01/28/26 Wed
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Yeah, the reactions would be a giggle , a scoff, or a I am getting out of here, and that was it.

Us three boys swam out to a floating dock put out in summer and stared at the clouds as we were not to be at home when nice outside.

A few girls from area swam out too and giggled and then we talk

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