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Subject: Naked at home


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Date Posted: 16:49:37 03/25/26 Wed
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Who here was kept naked at home growing up? Could you describe what it was like and explain why it happened?

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Ron
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Date Posted: 21:57:38 03/25/26 Wed
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>Who here was kept naked at home growing up? Could you
>describe what it was like and explain why it happened?

When I was growing up back in the 60s being kept naked at home was either used as a punishment or to make sure that a kid did not sneak out to play outside with friends when he was grounded.

Back in those days we didn't have the electronic games or computers and internet like kids have today to occupy themselves with at home, so we spent most of our time playing outside with other kids.
So when a kid was grounded as punishment his clothes were confiscated and kept naked or in just underpants to make sure that he or she did not sneak out to play outside.

It was not uncommon when visiting or calling on friends to see a boy naked or a girl in just underpants for this reason.
Many of us kids considered this grounding punishment not being able to go outside to play as worse than a spanking, more than the nudity itself.

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Sean
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Date Posted: 01:58:08 03/26/26 Thu
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I was one of those boys. At 10 I was in a new foster home, and girl I played with often 9 years old was sometimes in panties at home when I went over, but her 7 brother was naked all summer. When we played oout side some of the boys played naked too. It was normal back then for boys to do that. At a local park it even seemed more common than back yards. After awhile i was naked all the time like my friends little brother.

My caretakers were my mom, girls mom, and 18 yo babysitter, and occaionally an older women next door.

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[> Subject: Re: Naked at home


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spelvin
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Date Posted: 05:13:20 03/26/26 Thu
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In 2024, Mik wrote to the 206801 forum in present tense. He was kept nude at home, and probably still is. He was made to receive playdates, visit his cousins, and attend sleepovers completely bare. At one time, he was made to perform nude yoga postures for his mother’s women’s yoga club.

The parents of 13-year-old Jeremy (2015, Voy 143459) and his 14-year-old brother were somewhat more lenient. When the parents had guests, the boys were either allowed to wear clothes or sent to their room. When the boys went out of the house, they were allowed to wear swimsuits.

Unlike Mik’s parents, however, Jeremy’s parents expected immodesty from any boy visiting the home. He was allowed to wear a swimsuit or undergarment, however.

What is the case in favor of keeping a boy naked at home? Here are a few gleanings:

----In the words of Mik’s mother, boys "don't need modesty" and "have nothing to hide."

----Mik’s mother asked, “Everyone's seen a willy and butt cheeks before, so what's so special about yours?”

----Mik’s nudity was conducive to body awareness and body confidence.

----Mik’s nudity was a preventive against overeating, alcoholism, and couch potato-hood.

----Mik’s nudity was an effective health safeguard. If Mik’s mother’s brother were kept naked, his case of testicular cancer could have been detected earlier.

----The air on the skin, whether indoors or outdoors, is good for the body. Mik himself admitted that the fresh air felt good when he was outside shooting hoops.

----According to Mik’s own admission, he was accustomed to being nude in the presence of his own family.

----By the admission of Jeremy (2015, Voy 14359), “it’s a lot more comfortable during the summer.”

----According to the parents of Jeremy (2015, Voy 14359), the boys were “better behaved and can’t get up to much.” Their sister must have already behaved well, because the mandate did not apply to her.

----We certainly must not neglect any girl’s educational needs. The summer that Pumba (2018, Voy 223876) was 8 years old, he was kept naked 5 hours a day for the benefit of his 11-year-old sister Louise.

What is the case AGAINST keeping a boy naked at home? Here is Mik’s case:

---Mik could not become accustomed to being nude in the presence of his friends, his cousins, and his house guests.

----Mik’s house guests, although well-meaning, discussed his nudity in a way that made him feel like “a science experiment or something.”

----Mik’s friends’ sisters were not always very courteous. He did not like their grabbing his penis.

In all of the foregoing examples, the families discriminated on the basis of age and gender. The family in which Ken (2020, Voy 223876) grew up, however, discriminated only on the basis of gender. A sign at the front entrance read that “any males present would be naked and in full view of anyone who entered.”

Ken’s mother had a book club. Some of the women brought their daughters. Ken commented, “I guess they wanted them to enjoy the view and I did not mind giving them that view.”

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Rob
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Date Posted: 10:55:55 03/26/26 Thu
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I suppose only one argument here is valid, which is also supported by health experts, which is that the skin in every parts of the body needs breathing and is beneficial for optimal health.
Which is why sports in ancient times up to not so long ago was always done naked or with very limited clothing.

It is only when modesty began to be taken into consideration that some clothing was allowed in public, but this only applied to adults since children do not offend anyone by being naked.
Also by nature children do not have a natural sense of modesty, it is only imposed on them from a young age.

The question is why are girls always afforded modesty while many consider it is not so important for boys as you show in your examples here. The answer is that nude girls are seen as sexual objects while nude boys are not seen as sexual objects by girls and women, even though they may admire their beauty as Jermaine Greer and other feminists point out in their writings about the beauty of naked boys up to a certain age.
While the sight of a naked man offends many, if not most women, the sight of a naked boy up to maybe early teens does not offend them.
This may be arguable but is the general opinion, which is why boys were displayed naked in front of girls and women, but not girls in front of boys or men.



>In 2024, Mik wrote to the 206801 forum in present
>tense. He was kept nude at home, and probably still
>is. He was made to receive playdates, visit his
>cousins, and attend sleepovers completely bare. At one
>time, he was made to perform nude yoga postures for
>his mother’s women’s yoga club.
>
>The parents of 13-year-old Jeremy (2015, Voy 143459)
>and his 14-year-old brother were somewhat more
>lenient. When the parents had guests, the boys were
>either allowed to wear clothes or sent to their room.
>When the boys went out of the house, they were allowed
>to wear swimsuits.
>
>Unlike Mik’s parents, however, Jeremy’s parents
>expected immodesty from any boy visiting the home. He
>was allowed to wear a swimsuit or undergarment,
>however.
>
>What is the case in favor of keeping a boy naked at
>home? Here are a few gleanings:
>
>----In the words of Mik’s mother, boys "don't need
>modesty" and "have nothing to hide."
>
>----Mik’s mother asked, “Everyone's seen a willy
>and butt cheeks before, so what's so special about
>yours?”
>
>----Mik’s nudity was conducive to body awareness and
>body confidence.
>
>----Mik’s nudity was a preventive against
>overeating, alcoholism, and couch potato-hood.
>
>----Mik’s nudity was an effective health safeguard.
>If Mik’s mother’s brother were kept naked, his
>case of testicular cancer could have been detected
>earlier.
>
>----The air on the skin, whether indoors or outdoors,
>is good for the body. Mik himself admitted that the
>fresh air felt good when he was outside shooting hoops.
>
>----According to Mik’s own admission, he was
>accustomed to being nude in the presence of his own
>family.
>
>----By the admission of Jeremy (2015, Voy 14359),
>“it’s a lot more comfortable during the summer.”
>
>----According to the parents of Jeremy (2015, Voy
>14359), the boys were “better behaved and can’t
>get up to much.” Their sister must have already
>behaved well, because the mandate did not apply to her.
>
>----We certainly must not neglect any girl’s
>educational needs. The summer that Pumba (2018, Voy
>223876) was 8 years old, he was kept naked 5 hours a
>day for the benefit of his 11-year-old sister Louise.
>
>What is the case AGAINST keeping a boy naked at home?
>Here is Mik’s case:
>
>---Mik could not become accustomed to being nude in
>the presence of his friends, his cousins, and his
>house guests.
>
>----Mik’s house guests, although well-meaning,
>discussed his nudity in a way that made him feel like
>“a science experiment or something.”
>
>----Mik’s friends’ sisters were not always very
>courteous. He did not like their grabbing his penis.
>
>In all of the foregoing examples, the families
>discriminated on the basis of age and gender. The
>family in which Ken (2020, Voy 223876) grew up,
>however, discriminated only on the basis of gender. A
>sign at the front entrance read that “any males
>present would be naked and in full view of anyone who
>entered.”
>
>Ken’s mother had a book club. Some of the women
>brought their daughters. Ken commented, “I guess
>they wanted them to enjoy the view and I did not mind
>giving them that view.”

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Author:
spelvin (to Rob)
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Date Posted: 02:24:38 03/27/26 Fri
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There has also been a second reason why boy nudity was more acceptable than girl nudity: girls were seen as frail and fragile and boys were seen as strong and confident.
Therefore, went the argument, girls were in greater need of protection.

Now that Stranger Danger emerged, boys need protection too.

Our species was not alone in this double standard. Among the ape species, adults of both genders are more protective toward female infants than toward male infants (Itani 1963; Kummer 1967).

When asked why naked boys appear in movies more often than naked girls, Mevertis (2018, Voy 2238768) suggested that boys were seen as carnivorous animals. We don’t protect wolves from sheep but we protect sheep from wolves. Likewise, goes the analogy, we don’t protect boys from girls but we protect girls from boys.

Linda (2018, dead link) defends the double standard:

"In my view, I think men should be entitled to be naked when swimming or on the beach or other decent occasions that nudity is expected. After all, males are different from females. If a female is naked in public, she exposes herself to male raping; on the other hand, men don’t have this concern. I sometimes wonder why men need the equal modesty as females."

Boys have cooperated in this double standard. Willy (2019, Voy 223876) was allowed to appear nude at home, but “would not of wanted my sisters to be nude.” He believed that “it was only fair for girls to be afforded more modesty.” In his opinion, “being nude was a boy only thing as we boys are stronger that it would be far too embarrassing for the girls to be nude.”

Stan (2019, Voy 223876) appeared nude both at home and at swim meets. From the age of about 14, he had protective feelings about his sisters:

"I wouldn't want strangers look at my sisters like that. It was the big brother in me to keep my sisters safe and not wanting anyone to look at my sisters like that. So I am in agreement that I have no problem keeping my sisters clothed and not naked, especially in front of strangers. I never felt jealousy of why not girls be nude at the swimming events like us boys."

According to Rob (2019, Voy 223876), “Girls’ modesty was protected from the prying eyes of males, while it did not matter for boys to be seen naked by females. Males were always the predators so female modesty had to be protected from a young age, while girls seeing nude boys was harmless.”

Could you, by any chance, be the same Rob?

Itani, J. 1959. Paternal care in the wild Japanese monkey, Macaca fuscata fuscata. Primates 2: 61-93.

Kummer, H. 1967. Tripartite relations in Hamadryas baboons. In Altmann, S., ed. Social communications among primates. Chicago: University of Chicago Press: 63-71.

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Rob to Spelvin
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Date Posted: 10:23:47 03/27/26 Fri
Author Host/IP: 188.172.75.174

>There has also been a second reason why boy nudity was
>more acceptable than girl nudity: girls were seen as
>frail and fragile and boys were seen as strong and
>confident.
>Therefore, went the argument, girls were in greater
>need of protection.
>
>Now that Stranger Danger emerged, boys need protection
>too.
>
>Our species was not alone in this double standard.
>Among the ape species, adults of both genders are more
>protective toward female infants than toward male
>infants (Itani 1963; Kummer 1967).
>
>When asked why naked boys appear in movies more often
>than naked girls, Mevertis (2018, Voy 2238768)
>suggested that boys were seen as carnivorous animals.
>We don’t protect wolves from sheep but we protect
>sheep from wolves. Likewise, goes the analogy, we
>don’t protect boys from girls but we protect girls
>from boys.
>
>Linda (2018, dead link) defends the double standard:
>
>"In my view, I think men should be entitled to be
>naked when swimming or on the beach or other decent
>occasions that nudity is expected. After all, males
>are different from females. If a female is naked in
>public, she exposes herself to male raping; on the
>other hand, men don’t have this concern. I sometimes
>wonder why men need the equal modesty as females."
>
>Boys have cooperated in this double standard. Willy
>(2019, Voy 223876) was allowed to appear nude at home,
>but “would not of wanted my sisters to be nude.”
>He believed that “it was only fair for girls to be
>afforded more modesty.” In his opinion, “being
>nude was a boy only thing as we boys are stronger that
>it would be far too embarrassing for the girls to be
>nude.”
>
>Stan (2019, Voy 223876) appeared nude both at home and
>at swim meets. From the age of about 14, he had
>protective feelings about his sisters:
>
>"I wouldn't want strangers look at my sisters like
>that. It was the big brother in me to keep my sisters
>safe and not wanting anyone to look at my sisters like
>that. So I am in agreement that I have no problem
>keeping my sisters clothed and not naked, especially
>in front of strangers. I never felt jealousy of why
>not girls be nude at the swimming events like us
>boys."
>
>According to Rob (2019, Voy 223876), “Girls’
>modesty was protected from the prying eyes of males,
>while it did not matter for boys to be seen naked by
>females. Males were always the predators so female
>modesty had to be protected from a young age, while
>girls seeing nude boys was harmless.”
>
>Could you, by any chance, be the same Rob?

I am not sure but it could have been me because it expresses the same opinions and observations that I have have.

I also agree with Willy and others you have mentioned here that boys were over-protective of their sisters and didn't want other males to see them naked, while with boys it did not matter who saw them naked.

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Date Posted: 18:59:50 03/26/26 Thu
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>Who here was kept naked at home growing up? Could you
>describe what it was like and explain why it happened?

I definitely was, in the 90s. I didn't really think much of it until I was about 9 or 10. It was just the way our household was. After that, and some bad teasing experiences, I kept it to myself.

My parents just didn't see any need for boys to wear clothes at home. So I was kept naked, while my sisters were given clothes to wear. It was annoying, but I was used to it. When I moved out at 18 and got my first job, you can guess the first thing I bought!

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Date Posted: 14:33:33 03/29/26 Sun
Author Host/IP: 73.228.211.35

did you ever ask your parent why your sisters got clothes but you had to stay naked? did it ever feel unfair to you and did your sisters ever tease you? what about visitors? did any boys visiting have to join you or were you the only one naked still?

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Date Posted: 17:49:23 03/29/26 Sun
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Yes, I asked them many times, their usual answer was that girls need more privacy than boys. They said it wasn't a big deal, and I guess it wasn't most of the time. Of course I thought it was unfair, but then again, it was what I was used to. My sisters didn't tease me (much). Yes, I was expected to stay naked when we had visitors over, and other boys were not required to go naked.

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Date Posted: 04:01:46 03/27/26 Fri
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

I would have group of friends year round, that were from schoold or neighbors. Rural Florida was especially tolerant of naked boys at one time as just part of summer uniform. After school you had option to shed clothes until 6pm dinner often.

In our group boys under 10 or so would play outside naked and was the norm. If one of the houses had pool or went to nearby beach you stayed naked all day as norm. A few boys never wore much unless going into town. Despitew what others right girls wore baggy tshirt and would take them off at pool too.

Most nudity was reserved for summer camps though.

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Date Posted: 06:07:04 03/27/26 Fri
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Tell us about nudity at summer camps.
Are you talking about boys' camps or coed camps?
I imagine boys were nude for swimming;
did they stay nude the whole day?

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Date Posted: 10:04:23 03/27/26 Fri
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>Tell us about nudity at summer camps.
>Are you talking about boys' camps or coed camps?
>I imagine boys were nude for swimming;
>did they stay nude the whole day?

Although there are many accounts of boys regularly swimming naked at camp, even in front of female counsellors who were often HS or college age girls, I do not recall anyone ever mentioning that girls swam nude at summer camps.

Also several accounts of girl counselors supervising boys regularly during daily showers at camp, mostly till age 12.

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Date Posted: 03:54:14 03/28/26 Sat
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It was more sports camp oriented. We would do calethenics, swim and hang out naked foir free time in AM. Afternoon was more team sports, with shorts and tshirt.Some boys would go to car naked in afternoon in summer though, or just eat lunch. Yes, we did have some female coaches, and some sisters jopined us but not as wild as it sounds today.

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Date Posted: 05:03:15 03/28/26 Sat
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>It was more sports camp oriented. We would do
>calethenics, swim and hang out naked foir free time in
>AM. Afternoon was more team sports, with shorts and
>tshirt.Some boys would go to car naked in afternoon in
>summer though, or just eat lunch. Yes, we did have
>some female coaches, and some sisters jopined us but
>not as wild as it sounds today.

Till what age were you boys naked at camp and doing outdoor sports and other activities naked?

Were all the boys comfortable with being naked in front of girls and female coaches?

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Date Posted: 09:54:01 03/28/26 Sat
Author Host/IP: 148.252.165.92

I once led a Christian camp for boys in Donegal and on the last afternoon I allowed the boys to take part in activities nude. I think it really gave them a chance to stop worrying about themselves because it was a real leveller.

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Rob to Jenny
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Date Posted: 20:55:42 03/28/26 Sat
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>I once led a Christian camp for boys in Donegal and on
>the last afternoon I allowed the boys to take part in
>activities nude. I think it really gave them a chance
>to stop worrying about themselves because it was a
>real leveller.

How old were the boys?

It was not unusual for HS and college girl volunteers to be in charge of younger boys till age 12 in church summer camps.
They would also supervise the boys during showers.
Some of these camps also had nude swimming for boys under the supervision of these female counsellors.

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Date Posted: 10:25:21 03/29/26 Sun
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>>I once led a Christian camp for boys in Donegal and on
>>the last afternoon I allowed the boys to take part in
>>activities nude. I think it really gave them a chance
>>to stop worrying about themselves because it was a
>>real leveller.
>
>How old were the boys?
>
>It was not unusual for HS and college girl volunteers
>to be in charge of younger boys till age 12 in church
>summer camps.
>They would also supervise the boys during showers.
>Some of these camps also had nude swimming for boys
>under the supervision of these female counsellors.

They were 5 to 10

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Date Posted: 03:45:16 03/31/26 Tue
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Our town pool and recreation area was very relaxed about boys playing naked in summer. They had summer camps in day and boys often swam naked in kids pool nude all summer. During summer campo rules shifted that bys could swim nude all summer. Everyone knew what boys looked like so was just part of summer. Things changed so much.

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Tor
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Date Posted: 05:10:28 03/29/26 Sun
Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31

You would have enjoyed being a counselor here. Male counselors joined boys, and once or twice a week we went to a lake for free play and no sports.

After team sports, some boys, usually younger nes played naked too. It was actuallly helpful when older and wanting to date, you felt less shy about it all.

It is a hard to beleive a bunch of little other things happened I idnt mention as sound silly today.

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