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Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Date Posted: 14:04:31 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 In reply to: Lucia 's message, "Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up" on 13:23:40 08/17/25 Sun I'm dressed almost entirely by Mom and Dad. In the evening, after diaper time, they put me in my pajamas. In the morning, after cleaning me, while I'm still lying on the changing table, they put on my underwear and socks. Then I go downstairs and do the rest myself, unless we're running late. Do you bathe your children at the same time? [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ]

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[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:10:03 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 146.70.147.102 >I'm dressed almost entirely by Mom and Dad. In the >evening, after diaper time, they put me in my pajamas. >In the morning, after cleaning me, while I'm still >lying on the changing table, they put on my underwear >and socks. Then I go downstairs and do the rest >myself, unless we're running late. Do you bathe your >children at the same time? If we're late, yes, I bathe them together. Otherwise, I prefer to bathe them individually because I can use it to talk about the day and school. It's a moment of strong bonding between me and each of them. But lately, we've been running late a lot, so I often bathe them together. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:16:28 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 What do they prefer? Individual bathing or two? At my grandparents' house there's a huge tub, and all three of me and my cousins fit in it. It's fun! Until what age do you think you'll continue to bathe them? Mom says she'll bathe me as long as I'm in diapers. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:23:56 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 146.70.147.102 >What do they prefer? Individual bathing or two? At my >grandparents' house there's a huge tub, and all three >of me and my cousins fit in it. It's fun! Until what >age do you think you'll continue to bathe them? Mom >says she'll bathe me as long as I'm in diapers. They prefer to do it together. They have fun doing it together. I'm the one who prefers this special bond with each of them individually. If I had to let them choose, they'd always do it together. I think I'll definitely continue until they hit puberty. I haven't set a specific age. When they have pubic hair and a teenage penis and are no longer comfortable, I'll stop. If they're not too embarrassed, however, I'll continue because they're my sons, even if they're grown up. Maybe not every night; I'll let them do it independently, but at least once a week, on Saturday or Sunday, I'll still bathe them. I repeat, at least until they're no longer comfortable and ask me to stop. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:30:58 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Well, I'm happy for Mom and Dad to bathe me. I'm not even shy with Grandma and Aunt. But last year it was humiliating to have Martina watching me. Have your children ever had to be bathed with, let's say, spectators? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:45:54 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 146.70.147.102 >Well, I'm happy for Mom and Dad to bathe me. I'm not >even shy with Grandma and Aunt. But last year it was >humiliating to have Martina watching me. Have your >children ever had to be bathed with, let's say, >spectators? For now, they're also very happy for me to bathe them. When I call them, they come right over and let me undress them without complaining. It's a tender and sweet moment for them and for me. As long as they feel this way, we'll continue. Sometimes they've been bathed by my mom or my husband's mom (their grandmothers), and they've told me they felt comfortable. Only Francesco felt a little embarrassed the first time after he started developing, when he was bathed by my mom. But it wasn't much, and then my mom immediately put him at ease (they're very close). I can understand your embarrassment with Martina. When I told Francesco about this, he said he'd die of shame if his classmate (the one from "Ferragosto") saw him bathing in our house. But why, after that first (unplanned) time, did your mom let it happen again several times? Didn't you tell her it was humiliating and embarrassing for you that Martina was present at your baths? What did she say? Except for the outdoor showers at the beach, but we're talking about baths at home, they've been seen by their aunt (my sister) several times, by Paolo and his brother (at least three or four times), and by their little cousin (my husband's brother's daughter). She's a year older than Tommaso. But it only happened once, last year. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:57:45 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Of course I told her I was embarrassed with Martina, but she downplayed it: "What's your problem? Where does all this modesty come from? How's your relationship with your female cousin? Do your children even go naked in front of her? How did that bath in her presence go? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:16:03 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 146.70.147.102 >Of course I told her I was embarrassed with Martina, >but she downplayed it: "What's your problem? Where >does all this modesty come from? >How's your relationship with your female cousin? Do >your children even go naked in front of her? How did >that bath in her presence go? Your parents are partly right. You prepubescent children shouldn't have any modesty. Besides, she'd already seen you the first time, so there was nothing new to her. But since you were so humiliated and embarrassed, they could have left you naked on the beach even in her presence, but asked Martina to wait outside the bathroom door (which, I repeat, is a very private moment for me). That's what I would have done. I would have tried to make you understand that Martina could be there, that it was good for you and your psychological growth that she was there, but if you were truly humiliated, almost to the point of tears, I would have told her to wait outside. Did she ever tell you how she felt seeing you bathe? And did you tell Martina that you were embarrassed and that if she were truly your friend, she should have waited outside? They don't see each other very often because they live far away from us, in another province. But when they are together, they play and have fun. She had seen them naked, but they were younger. Then we often went to her house, so my kids were dressed (she lives in an apartment in the city, not the countryside). They came to our house for Christmas and Easter, but there my kids were dressed up. Last year they arrived at our house (one of the few times) but they were earlier than expected. I was still bathing the kids to prepare them for their arrival, and for a change, we were running late, so I was bathing them together. My brother-in-law and his wife came to say hello (my husband told them I was bathing the kids, but that they could come and say hello, that it wasn't a problem). They stopped at the door to say hello, but behind them was their daughter, Carlotta, who saw everything. Francesco immediately covered his penis with his hands, while Tommaso was more comfortable, partly because I was bathing him and he didn't have much room to move. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:32:31 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 146.70.147.102 >>Of course I told her I was embarrassed with Martina, >>but she downplayed it: "What's your problem? Where >>does all this modesty come from? >>How's your relationship with your female cousin? Do >>your children even go naked in front of her? How did >>that bath in her presence go? > >Your parents are partly right. You prepubescent >children shouldn't have any modesty. Besides, she'd >already seen you the first time, so there was nothing >new to her. But since you were so humiliated and >embarrassed, they could have left you naked on the >beach even in her presence, but asked Martina to wait >outside the bathroom door (which, I repeat, is a very >private moment for me). >That's what I would have done. I would have tried to >make you understand that Martina could be there, that >it was good for you and your psychological growth that >she was there, but if you were truly humiliated, >almost to the point of tears, I would have told her to >wait outside. Did she ever tell you how she felt >seeing you bathe? And did you tell Martina that you >were embarrassed and that if she were truly your >friend, she should have waited outside? > >They don't see each other very often because they live >far away from us, in another province. But when they >are together, they play and have fun. She had seen >them naked, but they were younger. Then we often went >to her house, so my kids were dressed (she lives in an >apartment in the city, not the countryside). They came >to our house for Christmas and Easter, but there my >kids were dressed up. >Last year they arrived at our house (one of the few >times) but they were earlier than expected. I was >still bathing the kids to prepare them for their >arrival, and for a change, we were running late, so I >was bathing them together. My brother-in-law and his >wife came to say hello (my husband told them I was >bathing the kids, but that they could come and say >hello, that it wasn't a problem). They stopped at the >door to say hello, but behind them was their daughter, >Carlotta, who saw everything. Francesco immediately >covered his penis with his hands, while Tommaso was >more comfortable, partly because I was bathing him and >he didn't have much room to move. Matteo, I see you haven't answered me anymore... I guess you went to bed. It's late for me too; I have work tomorrow. Have a good trip! And let me know how your vacation in Croatia goes! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Eliza [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 23:20:24 08/17/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 193.34.55.91 I wholeheartedly agree with Lucia. Children - especially prepubescent ones - should not be ashamed at all. We're all humans, we're all take baths and in my opinion there's absolutely nothing wrong with your friend being present during one, sweetie. ;) Lucia is also right saying that is good for your psychological development. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:07:40 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >I wholeheartedly agree with Lucia. Children - >especially prepubescent ones - should not be ashamed >at all. We're all humans, we're all take baths and in >my opinion there's absolutely nothing wrong with your >friend being present during one, sweetie. ;) > >Lucia is also right saying that is good for your >psychological development. Hi Eliza. I'm very pleased with your words. Knowing that other mothers feel the same way I do is very comforting. Thank you so much! Also, knowing that you still bathe your children and that your sister-in-law still bathes her 13-year-old son makes me realize I'm doing the right thing. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 00:59:28 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Good morning Lucia and Eliza! Thank you for your support, and I've decided to take your advice: during this vacation in Croatia, I'll try to enjoy my age. This morning, Mom woke me up at 5:00 a.m. As you've seen, I'd been awake on my phone until midnight, so I was a bit of a zombie. I let myself be led to the changing table with my eyes half-closed and enjoyed Mom's cuddles, who in her sweet little voice said, "The vacation has begun, the vacation has begun. Now let's change your diaper and get in the car. You can continue your nap there." Dad came in: "So? Is my little baby ready?" And Mom, pretending to answer for me, said: "Hold on, Daddy. I'm all wet, Mommy needs to change me." I'm usually annoyed by this kind of joke, but today I played along. When it was time to leave, there were only a few bags to carry downstairs, since Dad had loaded the car last night. Dad grabbed my backpack with my changing clothes and said, "I think this won't fit in the car! We'll have to leave it at home." Me: "No, it's for me." Dad: "Oh, are these things to make you pee?" In the car, I ate a croissant and immediately fell asleep again. I woke up half an hour ago and we were at the last Italian service station. I walked into the bar without worrying too much about the bulge under my shorts. I only felt embarrassed when my mom, returning to the parking lot, said loudly to my dad, "Before I leave, I should probably change Matteo." [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 08:48:04 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Hi Lucia, I hope your return to work went well. What did my two virtual friends Francesco and Tommaso do at their grandparents' house? Has Francesco gotten over the embarrassment of Ferragosto? Hi there, Eliza! I wanted to ask you how you manage your children's bathrooms. Do you wash them? In the meantime, I'll tell you how the trip went. After changing my diaper at the service station this morning, we set off again and arrived in Rijeka around lunchtime. Just as we were entering the city, while Dad was looking for a parking spot, I felt the urge to poop. After 10 minutes, I couldn't take it anymore, and Mom said, "Honey, go ahead and use your diaper. I'll change you as soon as we park." I resisted another 5 minutes, but then I got dirty. Mom changed me and, unexpectedly, put me in underwear. Yay! So the afternoon went well. Only at the supermarket did Mom embarrass me by stopping in the diaper aisle. She didn't have to buy any; she brought a supply, but she was curious about the prices of diapers in Croatia. Now we've finally arrived at the apartment where we'll be staying, between Rijeka and Pula. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Eliza [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 09:48:39 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 193.34.55.91 I'm so happy you decided to just enjoy it! It's so nice! You'll see, you'll going to have a wunderful trip. ;) You being dressed in underwear is a plus. :) To answear your question: yes, I still bathe my children. They still like it and it's a great chance to catch up after a busy day. My sister in law still bathes her 13 year old. Even though he's entering puberty he still doesn't mind. 15 year old on the other hand wanted to stat washing himself and she agreed. However she still ocasionally drops by the bathroom(sometimes evevn accompanied by aunt Eliza ;) ), sits on the bathtub side and they talk. He's not embarrased, he doesn't oppose to that and somemtimes he lets her wash his back. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 10:02:30 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 I don't mind having my parents, aunt, or grandmother wash me either. I don't even mind having my penis washed. Do your children and nephews also get washed by people other than their parents? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Eliza [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:02:21 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 193.34.55.91 Besides us mainly by their grandmas. :) [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:13:13 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >I don't mind having my parents, aunt, or grandmother >wash me either. I don't even mind having my penis >washed. Do your children and nephews also get washed >by people other than their parents? My sons also love it when I wash them. And they're completely comfortable even when one of the two grandmothers washes them. Of course, both the grandmothers and I also wash their penises and butts. Hygiene is important, and they're not uncomfortable even during those moments. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:04:36 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >Hi Lucia, I hope your return to work went well. What >did my two virtual friends Francesco and Tommaso do at >their grandparents' house? Has Francesco gotten over >the embarrassment of Ferragosto? > >Hi there, Eliza! I wanted to ask you how you manage >your children's bathrooms. Do you wash them? > >In the meantime, I'll tell you how the trip went. >After changing my diaper at the service station this >morning, we set off again and arrived in Rijeka around >lunchtime. Just as we were entering the city, while >Dad was looking for a parking spot, I felt the urge to >poop. After 10 minutes, I couldn't take it anymore, >and Mom said, "Honey, go ahead and use your diaper. >I'll change you as soon as we park." I resisted >another 5 minutes, but then I got dirty. Mom changed >me and, unexpectedly, put me in underwear. Yay! So the >afternoon went well. Only at the supermarket did Mom >embarrass me by stopping in the diaper aisle. She >didn't have to buy any; she brought a supply, but she >was curious about the prices of diapers in Croatia. >Now we've finally arrived at the apartment where we'll >be staying, between Rijeka and Pula. Hi Matteo, I'm only replying now because I got off work late, went to pick up my two kids from my mom, then home, had dinner, bathed the kids, and now finally here I am. Back to work okay, even though the two weeks of vacation I just finished would have been better... I'm very happy that the long trip went well, but I'm especially happy that you decided to enjoy it! Don't let the diaper or nudity get in the way. Enjoy your vacation and be happy! I hope it's the best beach vacation you've ever had. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:18:42 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Were Francesco and Tommaso allowed to play naked at Grandma's house? With this heat in the car today, I was dreaming of tomorrow when I could be naked on the beach. I just hope the other kids are naked like me. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:22:27 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >Were Francesco and Tommaso allowed to play naked at >Grandma's house? With this heat in the car today, I >was dreaming of tomorrow when I could be naked on the >beach. I just hope the other kids are naked like me. Absolutely... Francesco and Tommaso are naked at their grandparents' house, just like they are at ours. My mom knows it and has no objection. It was very hot here today, so it was nice for them to play naked too. It's great that you dreamed of being naked on the beach; it means you're not so embarrassed by this situation. It's a step forward... I'm very happy and proud of you. In Croatia, you'll definitely find other naked children like you on the beach. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:37:40 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 I don't have many concerns about places where everyone is naked. When we go to Valalta, I'm sure everyone will be naked. Tomorrow, however, as our first day, we'll go to a public beach that has a small nudist section. There might be the typical family with naked parents and children in swimsuits, as we often see at Lido di Dante. Do Francesco and Tommaso make friends on the beach, even with children in swimsuits? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:52:28 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >I don't have many concerns about places where everyone >is naked. When we go to Valalta, I'm sure everyone >will be naked. Tomorrow, however, as our first day, >we'll go to a public beach that has a small nudist >section. There might be the typical family with naked >parents and children in swimsuits, as we often see at >Lido di Dante. Do Francesco and Tommaso make friends >on the beach, even with children in swimsuits? I totally understand you, and Francesco and Tommaso agree. They're also much more relaxed and comfortable when everyone around them is naked. Yes, at Valalta when we went, everyone was naked. At Lido di Dante, we've often seen the situation you describe: naked parents and children in swimsuits (even prepubescent ones, not just teenagers). Yes, they make friends with everyone, even those in swimsuits, although a watchful mom can't help but notice that they're more comfortable when their friends are naked, too. Especially if they're girls. Sometimes they try to tell their friends in swimsuits to take them off, but that almost never happens. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:03:03 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Has it ever happened that Francesco or Tommaso managed to convince a peer to take off his swimsuit? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:16:56 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >Has it ever happened that Francesco or Tommaso managed >to convince a peer to take off his swimsuit? Only twice, and only with boys. Once, the boy was convinced himself after what my children told him and took off his swimsuit (he was Tommaso's age, and it happened last summer, 2024). Another time, just this summer, it was an 11-year-old boy. My children insisted on convincing him, and he said no, but it wasn't a very firm no, it was half yes, half no... he saw that they were free and happy, and perhaps he wanted to try, but he was too embarrassed. In the end, his mother, hearing what Francesco and Tommaso were saying and seeing her son's hesitation, played the joke of pulling down his swimsuit from the back, saying, "See, it wasn't too difficult," and burst out laughing and hugged her son. I thought he'd get angry, but instead he lifted his feet to take it off completely and went into the sea naked to play with them. You see, this is proof that you prepubescent children should always be naked on the beach. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:33:05 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 This summer at Lido di Dante, my 11-year-old cousin managed to do it. He and I were playing with a ball in the water. Two girls his age approached and asked to play with us. One was in a bikini and the other topless. My cousin replied, "You can't! This is a ball for nudist kids," and laughed. The topless girl took off her panties and ran to take it under her umbrella. The other girl stood there and asked, "Chiara, what are you doing?" But Chiara came back and said, "There, is it okay now, even if I don't have a dick?" We started playing, with the girl in the bikini watching us. After 10 minutes, she was convinced too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:39:53 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >This summer at Lido di Dante, my 11-year-old cousin >managed to do it. He and I were playing with a ball in >the water. Two girls his age approached and asked to >play with us. One was in a bikini and the other >topless. My cousin replied, "You can't! This is a ball >for nudist kids," and laughed. The topless girl took >off her panties and ran to take it under her umbrella. >The other girl stood there and asked, "Chiara, what >are you doing?" But Chiara came back and said, "There, >is it okay now, even if I don't have a dick?" We >started playing, with the girl in the bikini watching >us. After 10 minutes, she was convinced too. Great! Your cousin managed to get two 11-year-old girls to take off their swimsuits with a joke. He was clever. He certainly wouldn't have succeeded with a speech about the benefits and freedom of nudity. He got the result with irony. Great job! I imagine it was also very enjoyable for you to see two 11-year-old girls naked. And it was fair. It's a shame we weren't at Lido di Dante with Francesco and Tommaso. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:47:57 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Has Francesco ever had the pleasure of having a girl his age sitting next to him under the beach umbrella? How did he react? I always try not to let it show that I'm staring at them, but I admit that I do. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:12:10 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 185.107.56.221 >Has Francesco ever had the pleasure of having a girl >his age sitting next to him under the beach umbrella? >How did he react? I always try not to let it show that >I'm staring at them, but I admit that I do. It's 1:00 a.m. here. I have to go to sleep. We'll start again with this question tomorrow. Good night. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:53:11 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 A naked girl, I meant... [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:18:56 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 149.88.30.115 >A naked girl, I meant... Hi Matteo, I think it's normal for you to stare at naked girls near you. Just as Martina and Margherita were very interested in seeing you naked, it's normal for a boy to want to see naked girls. Francesco does exactly the same thing, trying not to be noticed, staring intently at them. I think it's fair and just. Francesco hasn't been very lucky. Most of the time, our neighbors under the beach umbrella were boys or very young girls (the latter of which were of little interest to him). However, we've occasionally had 10-12-year-old girls topless, once a 10-year-old girl completely naked (who stayed near us the next day before we moved to another beach), and finally once a 13-year-old girl who kept her swimsuit on during the day, but changed the night before going home and didn't cover herself with a towel. Francesco had the pleasure of seeing her small breasts (though they had started to grow, they weren't flat) and the red pubic hair covering her little bits down there. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:29:15 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Hi Lucia, the 10-year-old girl must have moved Tommaso more. Do you think, however, that the parents of the 13-year-old girl were persuaded by your boys' nakedness to change their daughter without covering her? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:38:51 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 149.88.30.115 >Hi Lucia, the 10-year-old girl must have moved Tommaso >more. Do you think, however, that the parents of the >13-year-old girl were persuaded by your boys' >nakedness to change their daughter without covering >her? The 10-year-old girl who remained naked all day and the next day near our umbrella (and on the second day even playing with my sons) was certainly a great pleasure for Francesco (I think a bit like you, Chiara, the girl who played ball with you and your cousins at Lido di Dante). It's rare for a girl that age to be naked and play with them, so obviously he was very happy with this "equality" and also very interested. In fact, the behavior of the 13-year-old girl's parents was unexpected. Given that she had been wearing a swimsuit all day, Francesco would never have expected her to change so freely, without covering up. I think it was her parents' decision because she didn't seem completely comfortable. Perhaps, as you say, seeing my children naked all day, they thought it was okay to let their daughter be naked for a few minutes too... who knows... I don't know. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:46:54 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 On the first day, did the 10-year-old girl arrive at the beach before or after you? I'm asking you this to understand if her parents might have made their decision based on your children? Was she confident in front of two boys? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:15:36 08/19/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 149.88.30.115 >On the first day, did the 10-year-old girl arrive at >the beach before or after you? I'm asking you this to >understand if her parents might have made their >decision based on your children? Was she confident in >front of two boys? She arrived after us; my two children were already naked and playing in the sand. Her parents probably decided to undress her, seeing my children. She was a little embarrassed at first, but after a few minutes she was quite (not completely) comfortable. I think it wasn't her first time being naked in front of boys. In fact, she had some marks from her swimsuit, so she wasn't always naked. But her butt was partially tanned, so she had been naked before. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 01:14:00 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Those two days, you were on a normal beach, right? When the little girl's family settled in next to you, did your children continue playing as if nothing had happened? Or did they stop, embarrassed? Which of the three of you took the initiative to play together? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:35:52 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Those two days, you were on a normal beach, right? >When the little girl's family settled in next to you, >did your children continue playing as if nothing had >happened? Or did they stop, embarrassed? Which of the >three of you took the initiative to play together? Yes, the two days we spent with the 10-year-old were on a "normal" beach, not a nudist one. When my children saw the family approach and then set up their umbrella next to ours, they continued playing, but without being seen, they looked at her to see if she was staring at them or not, and they were a little embarrassed. When they saw her taking off her clothes and being naked, they were happy and less embarrassed, although not completely at ease. Since she was alone, after a while she began to get bored and gradually approached our umbrella, watching my children playing in the sand. When she was close, Francesco asked her, a little shyly, if she wanted to play with them. She immediately said yes, and they started playing together. Then they even went swimming and playing in the sea together. Those were two beautiful days for my children. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:41:14 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Were there other children in costume nearby? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:20:17 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Were there other children in costume nearby? Yes, there were other children nearby. They were all in swimsuits or topless (some of the girls) and they were looking at my two sons and Diana (the 10-year-old girl) as if they were strange creatures. They were staring at them (especially at their butts and private parts and laughing among themselves). [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:24:27 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Didn't the other children's parents scold them? How did the three react? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:36:21 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Didn't the other children's parents scold them? How >did the three react? The three were a little embarrassed, so after a while they stopped playing with the sand and went into the sea. A couple of parents scolded their children, telling them to stop, but when their children continued to do so, they lost interest and didn't say anything. Other parents pretended not to hear or see what their children were doing/saying. It was embarrassing for Francesco, Tommaso, and Diana. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:56:21 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Did Diana make any attempts to get her swimsuit back? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:05:19 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Did Diana make any attempts to get her swimsuit back? No, seeing my two naked, she decided to do as they did. She was very brave in that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:25:12 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 On the second day, were the children more comfortable, at least seeing each other naked? Who had arrived first and therefore had to undress first? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:29:19 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >On the second day, were the children more comfortable, >at least seeing each other naked? Who had arrived >first and therefore had to undress first? By the second day, they were completely comfortable with each other, all three of them naked. It was as if they'd always been naked together; they were incredibly close. The next morning, she had arrived first, and when we arrived at the beach, they had saved the spot next to their umbrella for us, and Diana was already naked. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:00:33 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 2.39.15.59 Yesterday you told me Carlotta had tan lines from her swimsuit. Just underneath or on top too? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:06:12 08/20/25 Wed Author Host/IP: 190.2.149.102 >Yesterday you told me Carlotta had tan lines from her >swimsuit. Just underneath or on top too? Yes, Carlotta was naked and her bottom was partially tanned, a sign that she's often naked. But not always, given that she had tan lines from her swimsuit. Only underneath, her breasts and back were free of any signs of a swimsuit, so when she wasn't naked, she was topless. Now I have to go to sleep, it's late here. Matteo, I hope tomorrow is as great as today. May you find other boys and girls your age to have fun naked with. And don't be embarrassed! Enjoy your naked vacation. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 12:46:02 08/21/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 Good evening Lucia, speaking of tan lines, I was wondering if Francesco and Tommaso are worried about showing, in September, at football or in the swimming pool, that they have an even tan? Or don't they think about it? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:49:09 08/21/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 80.79.7.122 >Good evening Lucia, speaking of tan lines, I was >wondering if Francesco and Tommaso are worried about >showing, in September, at football or in the swimming >pool, that they have an even tan? Or don't they think >about it? They're always thinking about it! And they're always worried! In the first few years, they were even terrified that some of their classmates would make fun of them for it, and that was the reason they didn't want to be naked on the beach, even more than the embarrassment of being seen naked. Now they think about it less, but they still think about it every now and then. To be honest, only one or two of their classmates have made fun of them, and only once or twice. And only recently. Maybe before they were considered "little kids," and so it was more "acceptable" for them to have no swimsuit marks, whereas now that they're older, kids are expected to wear swimsuits. But it's a silly social convention, in my opinion. You kids should be naked as much as possible, even on "normal" beaches, obviously before they've fully reached puberty. And you're right to frequent nude beaches like you do. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:19:02 08/21/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 Tell your kids I'm worried about this too. Besides, I'm switching teams in September, and I'll have new teammates. I'd love to shower at home, but I have to do it there. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:35:41 08/21/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 80.79.7.122 >Tell your kids I'm worried about this too. Besides, >I'm switching teams in September, and I'll have new >teammates. I'd love to shower at home, but I have to >do it there. It might be a very awkward moment for you, but don't worry about it; it could actually be really beautiful. You might find new teammates who make fun of you, but also teammates who understand you, who accept you for who you are, and you'll get along really well with them and make new friends. Don't worry too much now, enjoy a nice naked summer, and you'll think about it in September. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:42:15 08/21/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 Speaking of going naked, this afternoon I walked naked along the seafront on my first day, and it was my own initiative. I was just a little embarrassed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:49:37 08/21/25 Thu Author Host/IP: 80.79.7.122 >Speaking of going naked, this afternoon I walked naked >along the seafront on my first day, and it was my own >initiative. I was just a little embarrassed. Well done! I'm so proud of you! Great! You see, it's not that impossible! The even better thing is that it was your initiative. Excellent! Were there any boys or girls around? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 02:52:26 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 I'll tell you about yesterday. As I wrote to Eliza, yesterday we visited Pula. On the way back, we saw that the skies were clearing up, and we stopped at the little beach near our house, the one we used to go on Tuesdays. When we reached the nudist beach, among the few people I immediately noticed a mother with a child my height. They had just arrived, too, and the boy was taking off his swimsuit. I saw him pull it down to mid-thigh, then turn his head, see me, and pull it back up. Only when he saw me undress did he undress too. For a while, he watched me and Dad play with the ball, until Dad signaled him (he was German) to play with us. We had fun for an hour, then the weather clouded over again. Mom and boy left quickly, and we soon followed them. My parents were dry and dressed, while I, who had stayed in the sea until the last moment, couldn't put my shorts back on. So I started walking, wrapped in my beach towel, but I kept stumbling, and halfway there I decided to give the towel back to Mom. My parents exchanged a smile. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:46:58 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >I'll tell you about yesterday. As I wrote to Eliza, >yesterday we visited Pula. On the way back, we saw >that the skies were clearing up, and we stopped at the >little beach near our house, the one we used to go on >Tuesdays. When we reached the nudist beach, among the >few people I immediately noticed a mother with a child >my height. They had just arrived, too, and the boy was >taking off his swimsuit. I saw him pull it down to >mid-thigh, then turn his head, see me, and pull it >back up. Only when he saw me undress did he undress >too. For a while, he watched me and Dad play with the >ball, until Dad signaled him (he was German) to play >with us. We had fun for an hour, then the weather >clouded over again. Mom and boy left quickly, and we >soon followed them. My parents were dry and dressed, >while I, who had stayed in the sea until the last >moment, couldn't put my shorts back on. So I started >walking, wrapped in my beach towel, but I kept >stumbling, and halfway there I decided to give the >towel back to Mom. My parents exchanged a smile. I'm very happy for three reasons: - you found a naked boy your age to play ball with and have fun with. - he was embarrassed at first because when he noticed you, he pulled up his swimsuit. See, you're not the only one embarrassed? It might be normal, but as Eliza and I always say, you prepubescent boys shouldn't be ashamed of being naked on the beach! In fact, you both had a lot of fun after you were both naked. - It was your decision to give your mom the towel back and stay naked; they didn't ask you to. I understand why they smiled at each other: they were happy and approved of your decision. I'm very proud of you too! Very good! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:01:16 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 Have you ever had your children decide to be naked on their own? Do you sometimes make them walk naked to the parking lot? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:09:33 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >Have you ever had your children decide to be naked on >their own? Do you sometimes make them walk naked to >the parking lot? Whether at home or at the beach, they're always the ones who decide to take off their clothes. At first, let's say I "encouraged them a lot," hehe, but now they're the ones who come to me asking if they can take off their swimsuits. Then I physically do it myself because I like it, first with Tommaso and only then with Francesco, as I already wrote to you a few days ago. If they're still a little wet or if the parking lot isn't very far, yes, I make them walk naked to the parking lot. I see nothing wrong with that. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:30:18 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 Who's usually the brave brother? Who asks first? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:37:10 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >Who's usually the brave brother? Who asks first? Until two months ago, Francesco was always the first. Now, however, since his first pubic hairs began to appear (though they're very sparse, sparse, and barely visible because they're thin and light-colored), he's become a bit more shy, so in these last few weeks, Tommaso has definitely been the first and bravest. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 14:42:51 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 What does Thomas say about Francis's first hairs? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:04:22 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >What does Thomas say about Francis's first hairs? Let's say he's a little "jealous." Always wanting to do everything his older brother does and look like him, he wishes he had pubic hair too. Even though he studied it in school, in science, and about the human body, I've told him he's too young to have hair, that he needs to be patient and wait for nature to take its course. Sometimes he does it early (even earlier than Francesco), sometimes later, like in your case or Dario's. But both are normal; there's no better or worse. But I notice that he often looks at his brother's penis to see the hair (something he never did before). I think he's envious. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:13:44 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 I understand Tommaso's envy! Today, without letting it show, I kept staring at Alessio's penis. I know puberty will come for me too... but sometimes it's hard to see boys younger than me already so well developed. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:20:38 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >I understand Tommaso's envy! Today, without letting it >show, I kept staring at Alessio's penis. I know >puberty will come for me too... but sometimes it's >hard to see boys younger than me already so well >developed. I understand your envy and that of Tommaso. But believe me and Eliza, who's written it more than once, you and Dario are enjoying a great privilege, even if it doesn't seem like it to you. Don't rush to have a big, hairy penis... Pubic hair is a bit irritating and needs to be washed well or it stinks (at least girls/women's, because it gets wet with urine). This is also why many women shave. Of course, you'll eventually get to have it like Alessio; just give nature time to take its course. But when you're like him, you'll only be able to go naked on nudist beaches, no longer on regular ones. Now, however, you can still go to both. It's a privilege. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:28:11 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 Yes, I know cleaning is easier without hair. Especially for me, since I'm still in diapers. Do you have anything planned for tomorrow? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:47:04 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >Yes, I know cleaning is easier without hair. >Especially for me, since I'm still in diapers. Do you >have anything planned for tomorrow? If I were your mother and I had to wash you, I would prefer to do it without hair. We wanted to go to Lido di Dante for one last weekend at the beach before the end of summer. Unfortunately, the weather forecast is sunny in the morning, followed by a storm in the mid-afternoon (for tomorrow, Saturday), and bad weather on Sunday. So we're giving it a miss. Maybe we'll go to my friend's house (Paolo's mom) so we can stay outside and if it gets bad, we can stay at home. We'll see, we'll decide when we get up tomorrow. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 15:52:23 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 After what happened on August 15th, will Francesco be happy to go to Paolo's house? Does he still mention his classmate? The weather forecast isn't great here either. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:10:48 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >After what happened on August 15th, will Francesco be >happy to go to Paolo's house? Does he still mention >his classmate? The weather forecast isn't great here >either. Francesco likes playing with Paolo and his brother. So yes, I don't think he'll complain if we go there. Tommaso is happy with them too. Of course, if his classmate were to be there again, I think it would be very embarrassing for him, a bit like if you found Margherita in a bathing suit tomorrow at the beach where you're going... He's mentioned it a few times, only to say he hopes she won't tell anyone about her classmates in September... I'm sorry the weather forecast is bad there too. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:17:52 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 Now I'm off to sleep! Thanks for chatting with me every night. Wow, we've had some really long chats! I feel comfortable writing you my thoughts. If I ran into Margherita at the beach tomorrow... I'd hide in the sand. But if I ran into you, I'd happily have my diaper changed. Good night! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Lucia [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 16:23:00 08/22/25 Fri Author Host/IP: 149.40.62.123 >Now I'm off to sleep! Thanks for chatting with me >every night. Wow, we've had some really long chats! I >feel comfortable writing you my thoughts. If I ran >into Margherita at the beach tomorrow... I'd hide in >the sand. But if I ran into you, I'd happily have my >diaper changed. Good night! Good night, sweetie! I also really enjoy chatting with you, and I'm glad it puts you at ease. If we met tomorrow at the beach, it would be a pleasure and an honor to change your diaper. Because I know how embarrassing it is for you, and I'm honored that you're letting me. Good night! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Eliza [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 03:18:39 08/23/25 Sat Author Host/IP: 104.192.3.74 I'm so happy for you, Matteo! You're learning to use your wonderful privilege! You're making us proud! ;) How did it felt? Was it comfortable, liberating? You've certainly made your parents happy by giving your mom the towel. :) Since this is probably your last naked carefree summer you can try to use it even more. If I were you I would try undressing as soon as I arrive at the parking lot and leaving all my clothes in the car. Think about giving it a shot. ;) Big hugs and kisses! [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: g-spelvin [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 11:01:47 08/23/25 Sat Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247 Matteo, what do you mean, "at football or in the swimming pool"? Do boys play soccer nude in Italy--or whatever country you and Lucia live in? [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Matteo [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 13:07:10 08/23/25 Sat Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150 I meant to say "showers after soccer and swimming practice" [ Post a Reply to This Message ]

[> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> [> Subject: Re: mixed gender nudity in locker room growing up Author: Adam [ Edit | View ] Date Posted: 18:47:37 08/18/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 76.195.201.31 I waws an avid swinner and did track and weights in summer too. I used several poolsw but by far the most nudity for mixed gender was when using a college pool in my middle teen years.I went with same friend for much of the time. You would hang your team suit up on a hook right inside mens room when you came in and a female gym assistant would spin them out and dry them. The next day she hung them back up for you top get them. I swear she saw a dozen dicks a day and had a great summer. Another mom would change her two boys in locker room right when our practiced ended often. [ Post a Reply to This Message ]