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Subject: Re: Naked for the first time as a pre-teen
Author: Lucia
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] Date Posted:13:20:27 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128 In reply to:
Matteo
's message, "Re: Naked for the first time as a pre-teen" on 12:30:55 08/24/25 Sun
>During our last swim of the day, Dad stepped on a sea
>urchin! My mom and Martina's dad accompanied him to
>the emergency room, and I stayed with Camilla and her
>mom. Soon, the three of us went to the showers:
>Camilla protested again, saying she didn't want to
>shower naked. Her mom insisted, so I could see her
>naked again. After the shower, we went outside to get
>dressed; actually, they both got dressed, but I didn't
>because Mom had my clothes in her backpack. When my
>parents and Camilla's dad returned and washed and
>dressed, we headed for the exit. At a certain point, I
>said, "Everyone, stop! I'm naked!" The adults laughed,
>and Mom said she'd get me dressed in the parking lot.
>And that's when the problem arose. Camilla was next to
>me when Mom, while taking my clothes out of my
>backpack, accidentally spilled the spare diaper. I
>wanted to sink!!!
>
>Were Paolo and Marco already naked when you arrived?
>Good thing you didn't tell Francesco's classmate you
>were going to Paolo's: she would have followed you!
Here I am, Matteo,
sorry for the delay.
But when I went to make dinner, I noticed my husband hadn't washed Francesco and Tommaso, who had gone to play at the park this afternoon, and they were sweaty and smelly. My husband watched the soccer championship on TV, which has started again, instead of washing them. So first I washed each of them individually, and then we finally had dinner.
"My mom and Martina's dad," I guess you meant to write "My mom and Camilla's dad"... The many times Martina saw you naked have remained in your mind like a nightmare... hehehe
It's fair and good for you that you both showered naked... I imagine it made you feel less embarrassed since you were both in the same situation. Is she developed or not? Girls usually go through puberty before boys...
I also often dress my boys in the parking lot, even though they don't like it very much...
WOW... diapers... Camilla asked questions?
Yes, Paolo and Marco were already naked when we arrived.
Date Posted:13:48:04 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
I wrote "Martina" because earlier at the dinner table, dad mentioned Martina's father, who is a friend of his. And then I was thinking about her in comparison to Camilla. Camilla was sweeter to me the other day: she never once mentioned my small dick or my hairless pubic area. And even after seeing the diaper: sure, she looked at me in shock, but she didn't comment. I cried in the car. We stopped for dinner together at a restaurant, and she tried to make me laugh throughout the entire meal, without asking me anything about the diaper.
Camilla is as tall as me, has small tits and a pussy with just a little tuft of hair above the beginning of the slit.
Do you know if Paolo hasn't forgotten the embarrassment of Ferragosto? Oh, can you tell me the story of that classmate of yours you saw naked?
Date Posted:14:13:31 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>I wrote "Martina" because earlier at the dinner table,
>dad mentioned Martina's father, who is a friend of
>his. And then I was thinking about her in comparison
>to Camilla. Camilla was sweeter to me the other day:
>she never once mentioned my small dick or my hairless
>pubic area. And even after seeing the diaper: sure,
>she looked at me in shock, but she didn't comment. I
>cried in the car. We stopped for dinner together at a
>restaurant, and she tried to make me laugh throughout
>the entire meal, without asking me anything about the
>diaper.
>Camilla is as tall as me, has small tits and a pussy
>with just a little tuft of hair above the beginning of
>the slit.
>Do you know if Paolo hasn't forgotten the
>embarrassment of Ferragosto? Oh, can you tell me the
>story of that classmate of yours you saw naked?
From what you tell me, Camilla is very polite, sweet, and kind. Really cute! Even what she did at the restaurant was very thoughtful and sweet. I think she's the right girl to have this experience, boosting your self-esteem and making you feel comfortable naked, next to a girl who doesn't make fun of you and is naked too (even if not intentionally, but forced). I'm so happy for you! Very good! "Camilla is as tall as me, has small tits and a pussy with just a little tuft of hair above the beginning of the slit." I understand why she didn't want to be seen naked... I was very embarrassed at that stage of development.
Neither Paolo nor, especially Francesco, have forgotten the awkwardness of Ferragosto. Sure, today, when there were only four boys, they were completely at ease and relaxed. But I'm sure that if Francesco's classmate had returned, they would both have been very embarrassed. They need to get past this stage. Let's see how we can arrange another meeting with her, or with Carlotta first... they need to get used to not feeling ashamed...
Date Posted:14:14:50 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>>I wrote "Martina" because earlier at the dinner table,
>>dad mentioned Martina's father, who is a friend of
>>his. And then I was thinking about her in comparison
>>to Camilla. Camilla was sweeter to me the other day:
>>she never once mentioned my small dick or my hairless
>>pubic area. And even after seeing the diaper: sure,
>>she looked at me in shock, but she didn't comment. I
>>cried in the car. We stopped for dinner together at a
>>restaurant, and she tried to make me laugh throughout
>>the entire meal, without asking me anything about the
>>diaper.
>>Camilla is as tall as me, has small tits and a pussy
>>with just a little tuft of hair above the beginning of
>>the slit.
>>Do you know if Paolo hasn't forgotten the
>>embarrassment of Ferragosto? Oh, can you tell me the
>>story of that classmate of yours you saw naked?
>
>
>From what you tell me, Camilla is very polite, sweet,
>and kind. Really cute! Even what she did at the
>restaurant was very thoughtful and sweet. I think
>she's the right girl to have this experience, boosting
>your self-esteem and making you feel comfortable
>naked, next to a girl who doesn't make fun of you and
>is naked too (even if not intentionally, but forced).
>I'm so happy for you! Very good! "Camilla is as tall
>as me, has small tits and a pussy with just a little
>tuft of hair above the beginning of the slit." I
>understand why she didn't want to be seen naked... I
>was very embarrassed at that stage of development.
>
>Neither Paolo nor, especially Francesco, have
>forgotten the awkwardness of Ferragosto. Sure, today,
>when there were only four boys, they were completely
>at ease and relaxed. But I'm sure that if Francesco's
>classmate had returned, they would both have been very
>embarrassed. They need to get past this stage. Let's
>see how we can arrange another meeting with her, or
>with Carlotta first... they need to get used to not
>feeling ashamed...
>
>Okay, I'll tell you the story of my classmate.
As I wrote before, I thought you were still thinking about Martina and the times she'd seen you naked... Sorry! I was insensitive in the previous message with the joke about her. I know that despite your friendship and even though she's seen you naked many times at home and on the beach, it's embarrassing for you. Sorry!
Date Posted:14:29:37 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
You're right about Camilla! In fact, I'm elated, because tomorrow we'll see each other again for a trip to the island of Brijuni. Have you been there? Regarding Camilla, I was sad when she was about to cry at the entrance to the pool, even though I admit I wanted to see her naked. There were dozens of girls my age naked, but I wanted to see her too. And I was disappointed when, after we got out of the pool, she put her swimsuit bottoms back on.
Wow! This is shaping up to be another embarrassing day for Francesco! Did you have to accompany your kids to the bathroom at Paolo's house? Do Paolo and Marco clean up after themselves, as far as you know? I'm asking because Camilla went to the bathroom with her mother yesterday.
Date Posted:14:34:14 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>You're right about Camilla! In fact, I'm elated,
>because tomorrow we'll see each other again for a trip
>to the island of Brijuni. Have you been there?
>Regarding Camilla, I was sad when she was about to cry
>at the entrance to the pool, even though I admit I
>wanted to see her naked. There were dozens of girls my
>age naked, but I wanted to see her too. And I was
>disappointed when, after we got out of the pool, she
>put her swimsuit bottoms back on.
>Wow! This is shaping up to be another embarrassing day
>for Francesco! Did you have to accompany your kids to
>the bathroom at Paolo's house? Do Paolo and Marco
>clean up after themselves, as far as you know? I'm
>asking because Camilla went to the bathroom with her
>mother yesterday.
As I wrote to you, there was a classmate of ours who was treated like a little brother by almost all the girls because he was the shortest and least developed in the class (he looked like an elementary school kid). I didn't treat him like that because I liked him and got along very well with him. Some afternoons I would go to his house to do my homework, or he would come over to mine. That time, we were at her house, and we had a lot of homework, and it was late afternoon, and we were still reviewing some classes. Her mom came into the living room saying it was time to get ready for the pediatrician's checkup. She apologized to me, saying she'd forgotten it was due that day, but she'd drive me home while they went to the doctor. She told Stefano (the boy's name) to go to the bathroom and that she would join him after getting clean underwear, to wash him before the medical visit. Stefano complained that we hadn't finished repeating history and we also had to learn a poem, he didn't have time to take a bath and that he would go to the pediatrician without washing himself first. His mom told him it was out of the question, that we needed to take a bath, and took him there. Then she added, "Lucia can come to the bathroom with us so you can repeat it together while I wash you." Stefano froze: "Mom, but then she'll see me naked!!!!!" "It's not a big problem, you don't have much to show... Lucia, come in."
So I went in and saw his mom undressing him and then washing him. He was so embarrassed... I was staring at his penis; I don't have any siblings... But then we started reading and repeating the history book, and that distracted him a bit, reducing his embarrassment. When he washed his penis, he got an erection, and that was also new to me. There was no internet back then…
it came out a bit long... sorry!
Date Posted:14:41:57 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
How old were you? Have you ever told this story to Francesco? It might be helpful. I'm sure you didn't do anything to further embarrass your friend, like Camilla did with me.
Date Posted:14:47:06 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>How old were you? Have you ever told this story to
>Francesco? It might be helpful. I'm sure you didn't do
>anything to further embarrass your friend, like
>Camilla did with me.
"I was sad when she was about to cry at the entrance to the pool, even though I admit I wanted to see her naked." This shows you're a sensitive guy, but it's normal that you wanted to see her naked. Absolutely normal!
I'm very happy you're together tomorrow. No, I've never been to Brijuni. When you get the chance, tell me how it is. If it's worth it, we'll go too.
This promises to be another step forward in Francesco's acceptance of nudity! Several girls his age have seen him naked on the beach, and he was embarrassed, but much less so than with his classmate on August 15th. There's no difference; they're still girls. He has to get over this. Yes, I accompanied my children to the bathroom at Paolo's house. I do it at my house, and I do it when we're at other people's houses or in hotels or anywhere else. From what I know, Paolo and Marco go to the bathroom alone if they just have to pee (like my two), but if they have to poop, their mom goes with them like I do with mine. Do you think Camilla's mom wanted to clean her up, or did Camilla feel unsafe going to the bathroom alone in a new place? Did her mom come in with her or wait at the door?
Date Posted:15:00:27 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
I didn't go to the bathroom with them; I stayed on the beach. So I have no evidence that Camilla was cleaned by her mother. However, in the showers, her mother soaped her completely from head to toe.
Was there a time this year that Francesco surprised you? Like, you thought, "Now he'll be embarrassed," and instead he was naked without a care in the world?
Date Posted:15:19:42 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>I didn't go to the bathroom with them; I stayed on the
>beach. So I have no evidence that Camilla was cleaned
>by her mother. However, in the showers, her mother
>soaped her completely from head to toe.
>
>Was there a time this year that Francesco surprised
>you? Like, you thought, "Now he'll be embarrassed,"
>and instead he was naked without a care in the world?
If she soaped her from head to toe in the shower, it means her mom still takes great care of her. So it's likely she also cleaned her in the bathroom.
I also soap mine from head to toe and will continue to do so for a long time to come.
Yes, it happened this summer and it made me very proud. When we were home I told him and gave him a big hug. That's why I don't understand why he was so embarrassed on Ferragosto.
We had been at the beach all day and when it was time to go back we decided to go to the parking lot with both my children still naked and get dressed there.
When we got within a few dozen meters of our car, we saw a car parked next to ours, with a family loading up their umbrellas and towels to leave. They had two daughters, one about 14 or 15 and one about 11 or 12 (we didn't ask, but it looked like they were about that age). I thought, "Now Francesco will go back or he will make us stop here waiting for them to leave."
Instead, he went straight to the car, still naked, helped us load the trunk, and only then did he put on his underwear. He even greeted the two girls who were staring at him wide-eyed while he and his brother stood naked beside them.
Date Posted:16:03:36 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>Did those girls seem curious or embarrassed to you?
>Their parents?
Very curious, almost excited. Having two boys (even though younger than them) naked so close in an unexpected situation (it wasn't the beach) was very pleasant for them.
Their parents were surprised and told them not to stare. Perhaps the parents were more embarrassed.
Date Posted:16:12:53 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Well done, my friends Francesco and Tommaso! I never notice the time chatting with you! Now I'm trying to sleep, even though I'm not very sleepy. Good night!
Date Posted:14:52:33 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>How old were you? Have you ever told this story to
>Francesco? It might be helpful. I'm sure you didn't do
>anything to further embarrass your friend, like
>Camilla did with me.
We were nearing the end of seventh grade, so 12 and a half. Yes, I didn't do anything. I looked at the book I had in my hand so as not to stare at him for fear of embarrassing him. I didn't comment on his physical appearance, nor the size of his penis, either then or in the days that followed. I confess, however, that without being seen, I carefully looked at his private parts and what his mother was doing.
Yes, I mentioned it to Francesco the night Carlotta saw him bathing.
Date Posted:15:09:05 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
You were good! And he never said anything to you? Not even to tell anyone? Oh, Camilla made a little embarrassing comment about my tan. When I told her my nudity wasn't limited to Valalta, she said, "Do you show everyone your penis in Italy too?"
Date Posted:15:27:34 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>You were good! And he never said anything to you? Not
>even to tell anyone? Oh, Camilla made a little
>embarrassing comment about my tan. When I told her my
>nudity wasn't limited to Valalta, she said, "Do you
>show everyone your penis in Italy too?"
Thank you. I just did what I felt at the time. I could tell he was very embarrassed, even though I confess I liked seeing him naked. Yes, when I went to his house to do my homework the next time, he asked me not to tell anyone, saying he'd felt very embarrassed and didn't understand why his mom had made me go into the bathroom. I told him not to worry, it was a secret between us and him, and I wouldn't tell anyone (I'm doing it with you now after having done it with Francesco, but many years have passed since then). I told him it had been a big surprise for me too, and I never expected to see him naked, even though I liked it (he blushed at this).
eheheh
I think Camilla's question was spontaneous and not intended to embarrass you. I think it was curiosity mixed with disbelief, given his embarrassment at the thought of you doing it in Italy too. What did you say? And how did she react?
Date Posted:15:41:16 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
I gave her a bold answer, not like me: "My parents are obsessed with nudism. On normal beaches they can't get naked... (I stood up, knee-deep in water, and pointed to my little gun) but I can." She laughed.
Date Posted:15:46:27 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>I gave her a bold answer, not like me: "My parents are
>obsessed with nudism. On normal beaches they can't get
>naked... (I stood up, knee-deep in water, and pointed
>to my little gun) but I can." She laughed.
WOW, Matteo! Great response! I never expected something like that from you! You were amazing! I'm so, so proud of you!
It means two things: one, that you finally feel comfortable naked, even though you're late in puberty, and that makes me very happy and proud.
The second is that you feel really comfortable with Camilla, at ease, and able to express your personality.
I'm so happy and super proud!
Well done, Matteo!
Date Posted:15:50:42 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Have you ever heard a child ask your kids this direct question: "Why are you naked?" And how did they respond?
Date Posted:16:01:08 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>Have you ever heard a child ask your kids this direct
>question: "Why are you naked?" And how did they
>respond?
Maybe they did it more than once, but far away from me, and I didn't hear it. The only two times I heard it, Francesco wasn't as brave and ironic as you. Once he said they'd been naked since they were little, they were used to it, and so it was normal for them to be naked even now that they were grown up. The other time he replied that their parents were happier if they were naked, and since it was more free, they stayed naked (even if sometimes there were embarrassing situations). You see, your answer is much better.
Date Posted:15:34:29 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Other girls don't behave like you and Camilla. Today, Dad wanted to rest his foot, so I went alone with Mom to the beach near us. It was nice having Mom all to myself. But at a certain point, two Italian girls in bathing suits made me feel embarrassed. I had wandered off to look for shells on the rocks. While I was on my knees with my head down, I hear two girls talking in Italian. I look out of the corner of my eye and see them sit down five meters behind me. I don't move and pretend to keep searching, preferring to keep showing them my ass rather than get up and show them my dick. For a minute, they talk about their own business; then, assuming I'm a foreigner, they talk about me in loud voices. #1: "Oh, are you listening to me? Will you stop looking at that boy, you pervert?" No. 2: "Of course I'm interested, he's probably 11." No. 1: "Yeah, you're not interested, but you can't stop looking at his ass." No. 2: "Well, his ass is cute." No. 1: "Are you in love? Do you want to try?" No. 2: "Come on, silly girl, he's just a kid." Luckily, their parents called them to leave.
Date Posted:15:55:32 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>Other girls don't behave like you and Camilla. Today,
>Dad wanted to rest his foot, so I went alone with Mom
>to the beach near us. It was nice having Mom all to
>myself. But at a certain point, two Italian girls in
>bathing suits made me feel embarrassed. I had wandered
>off to look for shells on the rocks. While I was on my
>knees with my head down, I hear two girls talking in
>Italian. I look out of the corner of my eye and see
>them sit down five meters behind me. I don't move and
>pretend to keep searching, preferring to keep showing
>them my ass rather than get up and show them my dick.
>For a minute, they talk about their own business;
>then, assuming I'm a foreigner, they talk about me in
>loud voices. #1: "Oh, are you listening to me? Will
>you stop looking at that boy, you pervert?" No. 2: "Of
>course I'm interested, he's probably 11." No. 1:
>"Yeah, you're not interested, but you can't stop
>looking at his ass." No. 2: "Well, his ass is cute."
>No. 1: "Are you in love? Do you want to try?" No. 2:
>"Come on, silly girl, he's just a kid." Luckily, their
>parents called them to leave.
Speaking of your dad, how rude. I read about your dad's incident with the sea urchin and I didn't even ask how he was... Sorry!
It must have been a really embarrassing moment... Okay, one girl said you had a nice ass, but they called you a kid, and I think that embarrassed you even more, right? More than showing her your butt... I understand why you didn't want to get up and turn around. They were foolish and rude anyway, talking like that. I never would have done it at their age. By the way, how old would they have been?
Don't think about them anymore! Think about having fun tomorrow with Camilla.
Date Posted:16:04:23 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
It's just that I felt bad at the time. The girls were probably between 15 and 17 years old. As soon as they left, I felt the urge to run to my mom.
Date Posted:16:08:02 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>It's just that I felt bad at the time. The girls were
>probably between 15 and 17 years old. As soon as they
>left, I felt the urge to run to my mom.
Totally understandable, sweetie. You did the right thing.
I'm going to sleep now.
It's 1:00 AM here.
Have fun with Camilla tomorrow!
Enjoy this wonderful privilege.
Make her feel comfortable so she can spend more time naked too and understand how wonderful it is to be naked on the beach.
Date Posted:16:10:06 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 185.107.80.128
>>It's just that I felt bad at the time. The girls were
>>probably between 15 and 17 years old. As soon as they
>>left, I felt the urge to run to my mom.
>
>Totally understandable, sweetie. You did the right
>thing.
>I'm going to sleep now.
>It's 1:00 AM here.
>Have fun with Camilla tomorrow!
>Enjoy this wonderful privilege.
>Make her feel comfortable so she can spend more time
>naked too and understand how wonderful it is to be
>naked on the beach.
At that age they should have behaved better and not said those things...
Date Posted:13:15:04 08/25/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 169.150.218.5
>>>It's just that I felt bad at the time. The girls were
>>>probably between 15 and 17 years old. As soon as they
>>>left, I felt the urge to run to my mom.
>>
>>Totally understandable, sweetie. You did the right
>>thing.
>>I'm going to sleep now.
>>It's 1:00 AM here.
>>Have fun with Camilla tomorrow!
>>Enjoy this wonderful privilege.
>>Make her feel comfortable so she can spend more time
>>naked too and understand how wonderful it is to be
>>naked on the beach.
>
>At that age they should have behaved better and not
>said those things...
Hi Matteo.
Did you go to Brijuni today? Was Camilla there?
How did it go?
Date Posted:15:23:48 08/25/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Hi Lucia! It was a beautiful day in Brijuni! It's truly a beautiful place. It was the summer residence of Tito, the former dictator of Yugoslavia. The island is home to many deer and fallow deer, which you can see free and up close if you're lucky.
Yes, Camilla was there; it was her parents who suggested this trip. We met at the ferry departure. Upon arrival on the island, before boarding the little train that takes you on the tour (there are no cars on the island), the first awkward moment occurred: Mom forced me to visit the public restrooms, "so we don't risk it." This clear allusion to the possibility of me wetting my pants like a newborn made me blush. Camilla joined us, without her mother. Evidently, she'd been accompanied to Valalta simply so she wouldn't get lost. Once inside, Camilla was shocked that I'd gone into the women's restroom. Mom: "Your little friend will make a mess if we leave him alone." Camilla peed in a toilet, then watched me poop with the door open. And she saw Mom wiping my butt.
Date Posted:15:44:33 08/25/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Out of shame, I remained silent for the first part of the train ride. During the visit to the island's small zoo, Camilla took me aside: "Don't let it ruin your day. Even my mother insisted on cleaning me in the public restrooms until two years ago." After the train ride, we went to the beach. There are many small beaches on the island; throughout the day, I saw a few naked men on the more secluded ones. However, at the one we visited during picnic lunch hours, there were only families and couples in bathing suits. Only me, naked. Camilla was more embarrassed than I was: her mother had forgotten the top of her bikini (she was already wearing the bottom as underwear). So Camilla had to go topless. "You have nothing to hide," her mother told her, making her angry. It was my turn to console her. We walked away from our parents a bit and lay down in a small pool among the rocks. Camilla complained that her mother had done it on purpose. I made her laugh by standing up and pretending to realize I was naked at that moment.
Date Posted:13:30:46 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
Hi Matteo, I waited a long time for you last night, then I had to disconnect...
"Camilla peed in a toilet, then watched me poop with the door open. And she saw Mom wiping my butt."
I understand why you remained silent for the first part of the train ride.
I think it's very different in terms of embarrassment to be seen naked on a beach than to be seen pooping in a public bathroom with the door open and then your mom wiping your butt. I can understand your embarrassment and shame.
"There were only families and couples in bathing suits. Only me, naked." How did you feel? Even though it's not the first time you've found yourself in a situation like this...
"Camilla was more embarrassed than I was: … So Camilla had to go topless. 'You have nothing to hide,' her mother told her, making her angry." Why was Camilla so embarrassed? After all, you had already seen her completely naked... Her mom said similar things to when Martina and her mom saw you bathing for the first time... I think those are very embarrassing things for a guy/girl to hear, right?
Date Posted:14:22:28 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
At the first beach, I felt embarrassed, as I had for most of the summer. There weren't many people, but still... Camilla, it's true that she was naked the day before, but it was still new to her. She wasn't so much ashamed of me, but of the two teenagers next to us.
Then yesterday I connected very late when we got home
Date Posted:14:30:13 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>At the first beach, I felt embarrassed, as I had for
>most of the summer. There weren't many people, but
>still... Camilla, it's true that she was naked the day
>before, but it was still new to her. She wasn't so
>much ashamed of me, but of the two teenagers next to
>us.
>Then yesterday I connected very late when we got home
I assume the two teenagers were boys... how old were they?
Date Posted:14:40:15 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Our age, 13/15 years old. They were wearing big costumes that reached their knees. And they were staring at us.
Date Posted:14:41:54 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Our age, 13/15 years old. They were wearing big
>costumes that reached their knees. And they were
>staring at us.
Then I can completely understand your and especially her embarrassment.
Date Posted:15:01:35 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
As soon as Mom pulled down my panties, they looked at each other. They were strangers; I didn't understand what they said, but they were definitely talking about me.
Date Posted:15:59:42 08/25/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
When Camilla calmed down, we returned to our parents. She sat with the moms, and I joined the dads in the water. My dad, while he talked to Camilla's dad, held me in his arms, placing his hand in the middle of my crotch to support me (my feet couldn't reach very well). On the one hand, I felt safe and protected as always, on the other, I was embarrassed by Camilla's dad (I don't know if I explained myself well, but the grip is the one you use to hold a newborn). After we got out of the water, we ate. Then the dads went to rent an electric gokf. It was an embarrassing experience for both me and Camilla: she quickly took off her swimsuit and put on her panties and everything else; when I stood up at Mom's command, I had an erection.
Date Posted:13:31:36 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>When Camilla calmed down, we returned to our parents.
>She sat with the moms, and I joined the dads in the
>water. My dad, while he talked to Camilla's dad, held
>me in his arms, placing his hand in the middle of my
>crotch to support me (my feet couldn't reach very
>well). On the one hand, I felt safe and protected as
>always, on the other, I was embarrassed by Camilla's
>dad (I don't know if I explained myself well, but the
>grip is the one you use to hold a newborn). After we
>got out of the water, we ate. Then the dads went to
>rent an electric gokf. It was an embarrassing
>experience for both me and Camilla: she quickly took
>off her swimsuit and put on her panties and everything
>else; when I stood up at Mom's command, I had an
>erection.
You explained yourself very well, I'm imagining the scene of your father holding you like that and I can understand your embarrassment even if it was just the three of you male. Was this the first time you'd had an erection in front of Camilla? How did she react, and how did you feel? Like with Martina and Margherita, or different?
Date Posted:13:54:21 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
I felt embarrassed both times.
The first time, at the beach, I was even embarrassed by the people walking down the path behind me. Camilla and the two mothers exchanged smiles, but said nothing. However, in the shower, the erection lasted longer, practically until I put on my pajamas. Camilla said, "Isn't his penis sagging anymore?"
Date Posted:14:06:18 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>I felt embarrassed both times.
>The first time, at the beach, I was even embarrassed
>by the people walking down the path behind me. Camilla
>and the two mothers exchanged smiles, but said
>nothing. However, in the shower, the erection lasted
>longer, practically until I put on my pajamas. Camilla
>said, "Isn't his penis sagging anymore?"
Camilla said, "Isn't his penis sagging anymore?" lol... so funny! What did you say?
How did you feel seeing Camilla and the two moms smiling?
Date Posted:14:26:13 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Camilla had asked: "Why doesn't his penis go down anymore?" That is, the erection doesn't stop. Did Francesco have erections with his partner on August 15th?
Date Posted:14:34:02 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Camilla had asked: "Why doesn't his penis go down
>anymore?" That is, the erection doesn't stop. Did
>Francesco have erections with his partner on August
>15th?
What did you answer her? Did this question increase your embarrassment?
Yes, Francesco had an erection in front of his classmate on August 15th, and this greatly increased his embarrassment and shame, which were already very high before, just from being seen naked and hearing his classmate's comment about his first pubic hair.
Date Posted:14:46:15 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Camilla's mother responded to the question by diverting the conversation: "Mind your own business, young lady! Spread your legs instead so I can soap up your pussy thoroughly." Then my mother said: "It happens to growing children. He'll be small again soon."
Date Posted:14:49:14 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Camilla's mother responded to the question by
>diverting the conversation: "Mind your own business,
>young lady! Spread your legs instead so I can soap up
>your pussy thoroughly." Then my mother said: "It
>happens to growing children. He'll be small again
>soon."
Very clever responses from the moms... Camilla was embarrassed when her mom told her to "Spread your legs instead so I can soap up your pussy thoroughly"? Did you look at her?
Date Posted:15:07:01 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Yes, she stopped looking at me and lowered her head shamefully. Camilla wasn't happy about showering with me, but her mother had said, "Matteo saw you naked a few hours ago, what are you ashamed of?"
Date Posted:15:10:32 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Yes, she stopped looking at me and lowered her head
>shamefully. Camilla wasn't happy about showering with
>me, but her mother had said, "Matteo saw you naked a
>few hours ago, what are you ashamed of?"
Your mom is absolutely right! That's what I always tell my two kids.
Date Posted:15:11:13 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>>Yes, she stopped looking at me and lowered her head
>>shamefully. Camilla wasn't happy about showering with
>>me, but her mother had said, "Matteo saw you naked a
>>few hours ago, what are you ashamed of?"
>
>Your mom is absolutely right! That's what I always
>tell my two kids.
Date Posted:15:15:48 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Last year in Valalta, did you meet children like Camilla, who were wearing swimsuits or were naked for the first time?
Date Posted:15:22:20 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Last year in Valalta, did you meet children like
>Camilla, who were wearing swimsuits or were naked for
>the first time?
No, unfortunately not... It would have been great for Francesco like this year for you
Date Posted:15:30:05 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Did you actually stay at Valalta last year? Did all four of you walk around the campground naked, or just on the beach?
Date Posted:14:58:04 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>
>Do Francesco and Tommaso get erections on the beach?
>What do you and your husband do?
Yes, of course. It's happened to both of us several times. Both when they were younger and this summer. I understand it's embarrassing for a boy, but it's completely normal and natural. Your body works that way, there's nothing to be ashamed of. In fact, seeing the faces you make when it happens is so cute... sorry to be honest...
Usually we don't do anything, we tell them not to worry, to keep playing and it will go away on its own after a while... If we're near water, we tell them to jump in the cold water, but most of the time we don't do anything.
When it happens to you, what do your parents do?
Date Posted:15:13:13 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
My parents pretend nothing's wrong at the beach. My dick often has a hard on when they open my diaper in the morning. At those moments, they say things like, "But this little dick is already awake." When you wake your kids in the morning, do you have any way of telling if they have an erection?
Date Posted:15:19:58 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>My parents pretend nothing's wrong at the beach. My
>dick often has a hard on when they open my diaper in
>the morning. At those moments, they say things like,
>"But this little dick is already awake." When you wake
>your kids in the morning, do you have any way of
>telling if they have an erection?
So your parents do the same as us. It's normal, it's no different than when you have a limp one. Actually, that's how it is, there's nothing wrong with that.
"This little dick is already awake." Your mom's quote is funny, I have to tell my two sons the same thing... hehehe.
They also often get erections in the morning when I wake them up. Francesco more often than Tommaso, but even Tommaso often gets hard in the morning. In the summer, they often sleep naked, so it's easy to tell if they have an erection or not... hehehe... in the winter, they wear pajamas and underwear, but you can see a sort of tent or bulge in the underwear... you can tell...
Date Posted:15:27:09 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
I'd love to sleep naked! But I always have this clutter between my legs! Who do you usually wake up first? Francesco or Tommaso? I bet if I slept at your house, you'd come over first to check my diaper.
Date Posted:15:30:40 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>I'd love to sleep naked! But I always have this
>clutter between my legs! Who do you usually wake up
>first? Francesco or Tommaso? I bet if I slept at your
>house, you'd come over first to check my diaper.
They also love sleeping naked, so much so that sometimes they even want to do it in the winter, even though it's cold at night.
Just think, you'll soon start puberty and you won't need diapers anymore, so you can sleep naked like them.
I usually call Francesco first, and only then Tommaso.
If you slept at our house (and I'd be very happy about that), yes, I'd wake you up first to check your diaper, take it off, and wash you.
Date Posted:16:20:00 08/25/25 Mon Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
We explored other parts of the island in the electric golf cart. At one point, we stopped at a secluded beach, and Camilla and I took the opportunity to take a quick dip. Camilla did it naked, too. And when we came out, she wasn't even in a rush to cover up. Back on dry land, we bought some takeout and went to Camilla's family's rented house. While the dads heated up the food, the moms took us to the bathroom for a quick shower. The hot water and being so close to a naked Camilla gave me another hard-on. But the most embarrassing moment came before we left. I was sitting on the couch, checking Camilla's phone with her, when my mom pulled a diaper from her bag and asked Camilla's mom if she could use the couch to change me: "You know, Matteo will fall asleep right away in the car." And yet, I still can't sleep thinking about that incredibly embarrassing moment.
Date Posted:13:45:27 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>We explored other parts of the island in the electric
>golf cart. At one point, we stopped at a secluded
>beach, and Camilla and I took the opportunity to take
>a quick dip. Camilla did it naked, too. And when we
>came out, she wasn't even in a rush to cover up. Back
>on dry land, we bought some takeout and went to
>Camilla's family's rented house. While the dads heated
>up the food, the moms took us to the bathroom for a
>quick shower. The hot water and being so close to a
>naked Camilla gave me another hard-on. But the most
>embarrassing moment came before we left. I was sitting
>on the couch, checking Camilla's phone with her, when
>my mom pulled a diaper from her bag and asked
>Camilla's mom if she could use the couch to change me:
>"You know, Matteo will fall asleep right away in the
>car." And yet, I still can't sleep thinking about that
>incredibly embarrassing moment.
"Camilla did it naked, too. And when we came out, she wasn't even in a rush to cover up."
Great! Perfect! This is how it should always be. Happy to be both naked and in no rush to get dressed. I'm so happy to hear that there's this intimacy/complicity/friendship between you and that you were comfortable being naked together. Just like before, I forgot to mention that you were so sensitive to each other when you consoled each other after the embarrassing situations your mothers put you through. I'm so proud of you both! Well done!
"the moms took us to the bathroom for a quick shower" WOW, you two showered together… I guess you weren't expecting that… How did you both feel? Did you talk about it afterwards? " The hot water and being so close to a naked Camilla gave me another hard-on. " I think it's a completely normal reaction given the situation. I think any guy your age would have had an erection... How did it feel to have an erection in front of three women: two mothers and Camilla? Did any of them say anything about it? How did they react? It was the second erection in a few hours in front of Camilla. How did you feel? Did she say nothing?
" my mom pulled a diaper from her bag and asked Camilla's mom if she could use the couch to change me " I think it was the worst moment of the day, or am I wrong? The most embarrassing one ever. How did Camilla react? Did she say/do anything? And her mom?
Date Posted:14:12:57 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Diaper time was definitely the worst. As I lay on the couch with my legs in the air, I didn't know where to look. I felt so small. Next in line was my first swim at the beach: I was the only one naked. Third place for my clean butt in the women's bathroom. The second beach was definitely less embarrassing: deserted, Camilla naked, and no one else but our parents. Showering together wasn't embarrassing at first either: Camilla was naked like me, and only our mothers could see us. However, while my mother was washing my foreskin, my little dick became erect.
After dinner Camilla told me that she had never bathed with another child.
Date Posted:14:25:36 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Diaper time was definitely the worst. As I lay on the
>couch with my legs in the air, I didn't know where to
>look. I felt so small. Next in line was my first swim
>at the beach: I was the only one naked. Third place
>for my clean butt in the women's bathroom. The second
>beach was definitely less embarrassing: deserted,
>Camilla naked, and no one else but our parents.
>Showering together wasn't embarrassing at first
>either: Camilla was naked like me, and only our
>mothers could see us. However, while my mother was
>washing my foreskin, my little dick became erect.
>After dinner Camilla told me that she had never bathed
>with another child.
Camilla and their mom were staring at you while you were in that position on the couch?
"Showering together wasn't embarrassing at first" Perfect! That's exactly how you should have felt! I'm more and more proud of you!
You, like my sons and almost all Italians, are uncircumcised. Even my sons, when I wash their foreskins, get erections. A completely normal reaction! I understand, however, that it was embarrassing in front of Camilla and her mother!
Was it your first time with a girl, too? Martina looked at you, but she wasn't getting washed.
You had bathed with your cousins, but for her, it was her first time ever, right? Didn't she tell you how she felt? Didn't you tell her how you felt?
Date Posted:14:38:05 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
It was the first time for both Camilla and me in the bathtub with a boy of the opposite sex. After dinner, she told me she liked seeing me naked; she'd prefer to be dressed, but in the end, she wasn't too shy with me.
Date Posted:14:45:54 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>It was the first time for both Camilla and me in the
>bathtub with a boy of the opposite sex. After dinner,
>she told me she liked seeing me naked; she'd prefer to
>be dressed, but in the end, she wasn't too shy with me.
Very good! I'm very proud of how you behaved and how you felt. It should always be this way. Camilla's honesty is also good.
I wish it were the same with Francesco and Carlotta... he should talk to you.
Could Camilla become your girlfriend? You look good together, even naked... what do you think?
Date Posted:14:57:18 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Two days with Camilla, and I feel like I've known her for a long time. I feel quite comfortable, even when I'm naked and she's not. She's never made jokes about me, she doesn't act like she's older than she is. However, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that she also had to be naked a bit on the first day in Valalta. I don't know if what I feel for her is love; maybe I'm too young. And she lives in Rome... But tomorrow I'll see her again in Valalta; it's their last day, and her parents want to end their vacation with that fantastic camping trip. I hope to see her naked again. But I'm also a little shy, because the last time we saw each other, I was wearing diapers like a toddler.
Date Posted:15:07:48 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Two days with Camilla, and I feel like I've known her
>for a long time. I feel quite comfortable, even when
>I'm naked and she's not. She's never made jokes about
>me, she doesn't act like she's older than she is.
>However, I think a lot of it has to do with the fact
>that she also had to be naked a bit on the first day
>in Valalta. I don't know if what I feel for her is
>love; maybe I'm too young. And she lives in Rome...
>But tomorrow I'll see her again in Valalta; it's their
>last day, and her parents want to end their vacation
>with that fantastic camping trip. I hope to see her
>naked again. But I'm also a little shy, because the
>last time we saw each other, I was wearing diapers
>like a toddler.
Sorry, Matteo, if I made that joke about Camilla becoming your girlfriend... I shouldn't have joked about feelings... it's just that after all the awkwardness that was evident in your stories with Martina and Margherita, you seemed very comfortable with her here (ok, there were a few awkward moments, but that's normal).
I'm sorry it's her last day... I hope you get to see her naked again tomorrow!
Don't worry if she saw you in diapers. All these days, she's been so sweet and nice and kind that I don't think she'll make fun of you. Don't say you wear diapers like a toddler, but like a boy with bladder problems... You're great! I'd like you to be my third child, just like you are now. Don't be depressed. There's no reason to.
Date Posted:15:21:14 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
For many years, in elementary and middle school, my classmates called me "little diaper baby." And now I can't help but consider myself a baby if I wear diapers.
Date Posted:15:24:59 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>For many years, in elementary and middle school, my
>classmates called me "little diaper baby." And now I
>can't help but consider myself a baby if I wear
>diapers.
I can imagine what it felt like to be teased like that. I'm just saying it makes no sense. It's not your fault you have this bladder problem and delayed puberty. So you shouldn't feel like a toddler. You're a 2010!
Date Posted:15:38:11 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
Kids are mean sometimes. Even some adults aren't as kind as you. Once in sixth grade, I pooped my pants in the gym, and the janitor teased me worse than my classmates: "How can you poop your pants in middle school? Look at what you've done! Stay still, I'll wash you! Yes, we do it here (girls' locker room). And the girls will see your pooped butt. You should have thought of that before."
Date Posted:15:43:34 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 79.127.147.92
>Kids are mean sometimes. Even some adults aren't as
>kind as you. Once in sixth grade, I pooped my pants in
>the gym, and the janitor teased me worse than my
>classmates: "How can you poop your pants in middle
>school? Look at what you've done! Stay still, I'll
>wash you! Yes, we do it here (girls' locker room). And
>the girls will see your pooped butt. You should have
>thought of that before."
How mean! You don't behave like that with a child. That janitor was mean! And why embarrass yourself in the girls' locker room? He really behaved badly.
Date Posted:15:51:37 08/26/25 Tue Author Host/IP: 2.36.88.150
She was a female janitor; I spelled it wrong. The girls' locker room had a bathtub convenient for washing myself, but the boys' didn't. The teacher had my classmates wait outside. How embarrassing to leave the locker room with the whole class staring at you, and the janitor behind her carrying a garbage bag full of your shitty clothes. Do you know if any kids in Francesco or Tommaso's class had similar incidents?
Date Posted:18:48:00 08/24/25 Sun Author Host/IP: 72.78.201.247
"It's not a big problem, you don't have much to show."
Joe would be very displeased with Stefano's mother.
In the thread entitled Swimming memories, Joe says:
"Nothing more infantalizing than being told you have nothing to hide."
In English grammar, a double negative equals a positive.
In akgebra, a negative quantity multiplied or divided by a negative quantity equals a positive quantity.
But that principle does not work in relating with people.
When I was in the eighth grade, one of my teachers said, "I'm not worried about Spelvin. I understand that he's doing a lot better this year."
That was supposed to be reassuring, but it wasn't.
It was shocking.
I had not realized that the teachers were SUPPOSED to be worried about me!
A more effective way might be to tell the child how NICE he looks!
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