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Date Posted: 01:03:20 04/23/02 Tue
Author: THE BOB GOIN STORY
Subject: CLICK HERE FOR A FREE ROOF
In reply to: THE BOB HUGGINS POLITICAL MACHINE 's message, "2500 Dollars" on 01:01:12 04/23/02 Tue

Before becoming the Director of Athletics for The University of Cincinnati, Bob Goin was out of college athletics for years. Florida State University fired him for ethical reasons. Florida State University is one of the more corrupt programs in the country. You have to work hard to get fired from F$U.

BOB GOIN THE THIEF

On September 16, 1994 Bob Goin went in front of the State of Florida Ethics Committee. You can read the report yourself at this website:

http://www.ethics.state.fl.us/Orders/94/h94-1.ro.html

Here are a few things from that website:

While at F$U, Bob Goin received a roof valued at $13,000 to $14,000 in exchange for giving preferential treatment on government contracts. He only made a payment on it after an investigation into his improprieties had already begun; in fact, he had already sold the house.

The company that did the roofing work didn't do residential work. They did commercial work, and had a $106 Million dollar contract for the F$U University Center Project. Job numbers for the roofing companies work were to reflect that the work was done on the F$U University Center project. All labor and materials were charged to those projects. The contractor told the foreman not to use the Goin's name on the tickets. It was common speculation among the workers on the job that the roof was a "freebie."

"According to Mr. Ellis (the president of Wenco), Mr. Miller told him that the Goins would not be charged for this roof, that he should not use the Goin name on any paperwork, that the job was being done free in order to get more stadium work, and that "in order to make things happen, sometimes we have to scratch backs." Mr. Miller made similar statements to others at Wenco.

"From these circumstances, the Solicitor argues that Miller's intent was to give the Goins a free roof and that the Goins did not expect to have to pay in the first place, but instead only made the decision to do so after the investigation began."

The roof work was finished February 7, 1994. No bill was sent until the Goins requested one on May 23rd, 1994, which was after the Comptroller's Office had begun its investigation.

" The Goins listed the house for sale in March 1994, and the listing for the home indicated "New Roof, March 1994." The real estate agent was not advised that money was still owed on the roof." (When listing a house, any money owed to contractors would be a required disclosure. But the Goins didn't think they owed any money until the investigation began.)

In another case, Bob Goin's son was awarded a job at a sports marketing company that had just received a lucrative contract with F$U. Nothing could be proven, but given his "inside dealing" with the building contractors, it is a safe assumption that is the way Bob Goin does business.

The State of Florida Ethics Committee's finding that Bob Goin had participated in unethical conduct was the reason he was dismissed from F$U.

My critics will tell you that he later won the case on appeal, and this is correct. In typical Goin Judicial Procedure, he hired a great lawyer, Tallahassee attorney Mark Herron.

Bill Cotterell, a writer for The Tallahassee Democrat has this take on Goin's attorney Mark Herron:

"Tallahassee attorney Mark Herron Herron, who served on the Ethics Commission from 1984 to 1988 and was its chairman in his final two years on the nine-member panel, is one of the capital's best-known lobbyists and civil lawyers. A former head of the Florida Ethics Commission, who has a long record of getting politicians off the hook with his former colleagues."

Bob Goin hired the ex-chairman of the Florida Ethics Commission and gave him money so his buddies on the commission would let him walk on the issue. Sounds like a typical Goin in-house judicial maneuver if you consider the recent circumstances.

That does not negate the fact that Bob Goin is a thief and a criminal. He took money from the taxpayers of Florida and exchanged it for a new roof on a house that he was selling. If I took $14,000 and got caught, I would be in jail today, (at least I might get the opportunity to talk to some former UC basketball players). Bob Goin should have had his ass traded nightly for a pack of smokes, doing time. He stole $14,000, and what does he get? He got the Athletic Directorship at the University of Cincinnati.

During Goins tenure at F$U, the program had multiple arrests with athletes breaking the law, including many violent crimes. A Knight-Ridder newspaper analysis found that over a five-year period during Goin's tenure, 17 F$U football players faced criminal charges. And those are just the ones that were charged with crimes. To this day, F$U players brutalize the Tallahassee populous with little or no deterrence from the law, a recent example being when Sabastian Janikowski was involved in an incident which an FSU male cheerleader was beaten and kicked outside a Tallahassee bar. (Coach) Bowden said there would be no discipline because there were no police charges against his star kicker. At UC today, police charges aren't even enough, you need a conviction. On the academic side, atrocities at F$U under Goin were just as bad. Deion Sanders didn't even show up for exams, but played in a National Championship Bowl game.

THE CIRCUS COMES TO TOWN

When Bob Goin was hired at the University of Cincinnati, the program was in the midst of an NCAA Investigation, which eventually led to UC going on NCAA Probation for a Lack of Institutional Control for violations within the basketball program. UC fired Gerald O'Dell, the previous AD, even though he had no connection to any of the violations. O'Dell was paid an undisclosed sum of money for his silence, and he is barred from commenting on the subject. Under O'Dell, the department prospered. Graduation rates rose in every single sport except one, Men's Basketball. The football program began its first sustained success in decades under Gerald O'Dell. Despite doing an exemplary job at UC, they fired him and made him the scapegoat. When UC made their case in front of the NCAA, they cited the firing of the athletic director as one of the self-imposed reforms to clean up the program. John Loyer, an assistant coach, was also fired, along with a basketball manager. You may recall that John Loyer was recently featured in a Sports Illustrated article entitled "Fall Guys".

Given these circumstances, one would think that the Cincinnati media would have been somewhat critical of the Goin hiring. He came from F$U. They had a poor academic record, and a disturbing police record. He was fired for being unethical for Christ's sake. And this was the man in charge of cleaning up the program? Please! You would have thought that someone in the media would have sounded off on Bob Goin. If a weekend hack like me can find these facts in minutes, you know that they had the same information at hand. What they did was the exact opposite. They went along with the Bob Huggins party line, and blamed Gerald O'Dell as a "snoop". They acted like the only reason that their even was an investigation was because Gerald O'Dell was snooping around and causing trouble, without him, their never would have been a problem in their eyes. In reality, O'Dell was just trying to run a clean program.

O'Dell was just a snoop, but how did they handle the past ethical dilemmas of Bob Goin? Taken from a 1997 Paul Daugherty:
"I pride myself on my integrity," Goin said Wednesday, and by all outside accounts, he should. I talked to half a dozen people about him. Administrators, coaches, media. None said a discouraging word. Goin was a scapegoat, they said. Goin was a victim of circumstances. When Goin paid $5,000 for a new roof that should have cost a lot more, he made a mistake. But it seems ridiculous that a school making millions from TV networks and shoe companies should get righteous over a few thousand dollars its athletic director saved on his roof." Come on Daugherty, get Bob Huggins out of your mouth and start reporting. Goin was a scapegoat? He only paid for that roof after the investigation began, check the above URL yourself if you have any doubts. That wasn't brought up. And I loved his rationalization. If I worked at P&G and stole $14,000, would the Cincy press write that a billion-dollar company shouldn't get worked up over a few thousand dollars? That is sheer media lunacy. And so the circus came to town. Present Day Clowning Around Under Bob Goin, UC has a zero tolerance policy for domestic violence cases. That doesn't stop players from raping women in team hotels and playing out the season. Players beat pregnant women and go on to play in the Sweet 16. Men are hospitalized in bar fights, and innocent women are punched and kicked while they are lying on the ground. On May 3rd, Donald Little, BJ Grove, and 3 other yet unnamed basketball players were at InTheWood Tavern on UC Clifton Campus. They were involved in a barfight that is documented in the following two articles: Cincinnati Post: http://www.cincypost.com/2001/may/04/little050401.html Enquirer: http://enquirer.com/editions/2001/05/05/loc_two_uc_teammates.html An interesting point, if you read the articles, are the actions and words that come from the clowns of the UC Athletic department themselves. Let me set the stage and save you some time of reading the links. The Cincinnati Police are looking for BJ Grove for the felonious act of busting a man's head open with a barstool, and Donald Little for assaulting an innocent woman. The police haven't found them yet, but UC clowns had this to say "UC sports spokesman Tom Hathaway said university officials have talked with Little and are looking into what happened. He would not reveal what Little told athletic director Bob Goin." That is just fancy. Police are looking for them, but the AD knows where they are. Bob Goin is a public servant, his salary paid for by your tax dollars. We already know he is a thief and a criminal, but on May 4th, he had just graduated to harboring wanted fugitives. Another quote from Hathaway was even tastier: "at this juncture we don't see any violation of any athletic department or university rules". That quickly became my favorite clown quote of all time. A man is sent to the hospital, and a woman kicked while on the ground, and the clowns of Clifton don't see anything wrong with what has just happened. It is comical. Doesn't that clown even know when "no comment" would be a better PR move? In Clifton, the spin begins as soon as the blood is wiped off the floor. BJ Grove has never been mentioned in the press after these initial reports on the incident. And The Bob Huggins Political Machine is working to get Little back in the fold for the fall, Bob Goin said as much himself. If you ask Bob Goin, he has a zero tolerance policy against domestic violence. Of Course, he will also tell you "I pride myself on my integrity". Bob Goin has no integrity. He is a liar. He is a thief. He is a criminal. At UC, the inmates are running the asylum, and Bob Goin is the #1 henchman for the Bob Huggins Political Machine. [ Next Thread | Previous Thread | Next Message | Previous Message ] Replies: [> The thing about TBHPM's old posts is that they are timeless. Every UC infraction comes back again and the same fools are always lurking behind the scenes to minimize them. It's pathetic how quickly the whole Little thing has been swept under the rug by the media. -- Homeskillet, 15:07:27 04/23/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] [ Edit | View ] [> [> The Goin post above is one of my personal favorites, because that information was never made available by the Cincinnati media. He is a liar and a thief. He should have gone to jail, but instead he went to UC. -- Snipe, 15:42:59 04/23/02 Tue [ Post a Reply to This Message ] [ Edit | View ] [> [> [> If I'm ever in trouble with the law, I might look into the option of going to UC instead of jail. What am i saying? I'd rather go to jail. -- Homeskillet, 16:48:29 04/24/02 Wed [ Post a Reply to This Message ] [ Edit | View ] Post a message: This forum requires an account to post. [ Create Account ] [ Login ] [ Contact Forum Admin ] Forum timezone: GMT-5 VF Version: 3.00b, ConfDB: Before posting please read our privacy policy. VoyForums^(tm) is a Free Service from Voyager Info-Systems. Copyright © 1998-2019 Voyager Info-Systems. All Rights Reserved.