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Date Posted: 08:36:48 06/04/01 Mon
Author: NO JUSTICE! NO PEACE!
Subject: The Shoemaker Center
I had to go to a high school graduation last Saturday at the Shoe. Like most graduations, it was truly painful and a new level of Hell for me. I could not help to compare The Cintas Center to the Shoe. The Shoe looked cramped, had a poor seating layout, and seemed like a big High School gym. I know the Shoe is older (8 years?) but, the Cintas Center simply outclasses it as a stadium. My guess is that UC will build a new arean within the next 5 years.
Finally, UC's campus was unimpressive. What's up with those various hills and mounds on the quad?
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that is where the b-ball players dump the bodies -- jgf, 15:57:34 06/05/01 Tue
>I had to go to a high school graduation last Saturday
>at the Shoe. Like most graduations, it was truly
>painful and a new level of Hell for me. I could not
>help to compare The Cintas Center to the Shoe. The
>Shoe looked cramped, had a poor seating layout, and
>seemed like a big High School gym. I know the Shoe is
>older (8 years?) but, the Cintas Center simply
>outclasses it as a stadium. My guess is that UC will
>build a new arean within the next 5 years.
>
>Finally, UC's campus was unimpressive. What's up with
>those various hills and mounds on the quad?
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I have only been there once - and can not understand how some ignorant UC fans think the shoe is better than the Cintas center... -- Pablo, 16:54:37 06/06/01 Wed
>>I had to go to a high school graduation last Saturday
>>at the Shoe. Like most graduations, it was truly
>>painful and a new level of Hell for me. I could not
>>help to compare The Cintas Center to the Shoe. The
>>Shoe looked cramped, had a poor seating layout, and
>>seemed like a big High School gym. I know the Shoe is
>>older (8 years?) but, the Cintas Center simply
>>outclasses it as a stadium. My guess is that UC will
>>build a new arean within the next 5 years.
>>
>>Finally, UC's campus was unimpressive. What's up with
>>those various hills and mounds on the quad?
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How the "Shoe" came to be... -- BigCat, 13:13:11 06/07/01 Thu
As an architect, I know the general events of how the Shoe was conceived...the original architects were Gruen & Associates out of LA. They designed an arena that at that time (mid 1980's)was much more than they could afford. They regrouped, with the design fee fund that they had left, by hiring a small local architectural firm (Glaser) to provide them with a "building" that could function as a college basketball arena. The Shoe was completed for the 1989 season, Huggins' first at UC. At that time the team/sport did not have that much clout with the University and was not treated with the prestige that the program would ultimately evolve into. They also had not embarked on the major "architectural" upgrade to the campus that has been underway over the past 8 years, whereby they have introduced major architectural designs by many of the top architects in the world. (Graves, Eisenman, etc.)
Since the mid-80's when the Shoe was designed, there have been a number of architectural firms around the country that have specialized in "sports architecture". The timing of Xavier's arena allowed them to utilize the experience of these firms to create a state of the art arena. Cintas is a great facility for the sport of basketball. You are probably correct in that the UC will most likely do some sort of addition to the Shoe which rounds off the seating and resituates the playing floor with respect to the sight lines. But this has been under consideration for a number of years, having more to do with the success that UC has had and less to do with "keeping up" with X. X was not the first nor will they be the last to create great basketball environment. Looking forward to watching the shootout in the Cintas for the first time next winter.
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