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Date Posted: 06:32:22 10/14/11 Fri
Author: john
Subject: Re: Who was the First?
In reply to: George 's message, "Re: Who was the First?" on 22:35:59 10/13/11 Thu

George...

there is nothing in your post for me to respond to... it is all either speculation, rumour or innudendo... i don't see anything that i can place my finger on as a "fact"...

john



>>George...
>>
>>your post speaks like the proverbial straw man. you
>>have also attempted to set up a false equivalency.
>>
>>show me where i said you were having sex with anyone
>>or that i said that jesus was married or any of the
>>other claims in your post.
>>
>>there have been some, in the past, that folks have
>>thought might be homosexual and they were "confirmed
>>bachelors". is every "confirmed bachelor" a
>>homosexual in your mind?
>>
>>john
>
>Not in my mind. But you deliberately and knowingly
>insinuated that a lot of confirmed bachelors are, when
>you coupled your comment about ordained church
>officials of days gone by being bachelors with your
>claim that the church has always unknowingly ordained
>homosexuals.
>
>By now, you should be aware that the state of
>California is teaching 12 year olds that it is all
>right for them to have sex without their parents
>knowing about it. From that stems the immediate
>perception that liberals absolutely believe that
>anyone past puberty is having some kind of sex. I
>seriously doubt that many liberals take the Old
>Testament seriously when it condemns premarital sex
>while reporting that Jacob and others didn't get
>married until they were nearly forty years old. The
>unspoken assumption for a liberal is that Jacob and
>Joseph ben Jacob were banging somebody or something
>(or each other) between puberty and marriage, and that
>Jesus was getting into somebody's pants, because real
>men just don't do anything else. The scriptures'
>failure to mention any such thing is meaningless to
>liberals, because they "instinctively know" many
>things that contradict the Bible.
>
>Liberals reject any serious acceptance of the
>scriptures as historical fact rather than myths and
>fables, because the scriptures simply do not
>fit their preconceived notion of the world.
>
>Do you honestly think for one minute that anybody in
>the First Presidency actually believes that Joseph
>didn't have sex with Potiphar's wife unless she
>was ugly? Joseph's reported chasteness just doesn't
>fit the modern perception of truth that they have
>endorsed, and they couldn't possibly buy into it.
>
>If the First Presidency did believe that Joseph
>had said No to sex, wouldn't you suppose they'd have
>some idea that people who (for some reason or other)
>can't marry those for whom they have the "hots" could
>be chaste? And if you believed it, you wouldn't
>insinuate that the historical leaders of the Restored
>Church who were never married were possible homosexual
>priests.
>
>A man can't discuss much of anything without revealing
>his world-view, John. And yours shows just as surely
>as mine.
>George
>
>Aggie: If you can guess how many chickens I have in
>this bag, I'll give you both of them.

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