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Date Posted: 00:21:04 05/15/02 Wed
Author: Icon
Subject: Welll
In reply to: Perceptor II 's message, "More waxing philosophical from my devotions" on 23:58:55 05/14/02 Tue

>The clear duty for real men goes beyond "live and let
>live". We are mandated to protect widows, orphans, the
>alien and all those who lack sustaining relationships.

As are women, and indeed, all other humans...

>As long as men and boys fail to be protective, they will
>fall prey to the typical male sexual fantasy that sells
>[pornographic] magazines and films...

That can be interpreted in a very condescending fashion (Though I'm sure that's not how you meant it).

The majority of women I know are more than capable of taking care of themselves and don't need me to protect them.

Sexuality is a natural component of humanity as an animal. I'm not condoning the abuse or degradation of others for sexual purposes of course, but it's a fine line between restraint and purient censorship.

As an example, if a woman wishes to display her body to a photographer as the most efficient and profitable way she has to earn money to feed her children, who are we to judge?

>The only real solution is to teach boys that the source of
>their power is in the nurturing and protecting image of
>God created within them. When we express our essential
>nature, then substitutes, like pornographic fantasies,
>lose their appeal.

Pronographic fantasies are not by definition wrong. They can be abused, but then, so can toy collecting.

>Agree? Disagree? Anything enlightening to add?

Limiting the gender definition to males is disingenuous and demeaning to women. God is to be found in all of us, regardless of whether we're male or female.

Let's have more concern about "real people" not "real men".

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